To be honest, I don’t like the cross. It doesn’t make sense. His gesture clearly tells us he’s not spinning. The cloth on his face clearly tells us it’s not windy enough to move cloth, let alone a heavier cross…
I just think it cheapens the image.
I think you had something with the red-lines on the background before, I’d go back and explore that more.
Yeah I know what you mean. So do you not like the idea of the cross at all? Or is it just because of the movement?
The cross doesn’t bother me at all in and of itself… just the motion.
It’d be fine if it was even laying on his shoulder just below where it is now… as if, previous to the “snapshot” of this image he had spun, and it had landed there after the spin.
ok cool, i thought u ment the addition of the cross cheapens the hole image. Cause I can see how a cross can be a very ‘cheap’ way to add symbolism to a picture. 
so here’s some more variations
which one, if any, works the best?
Hi Captain, great pic. I think the cross on the right arm is the best in terms of composition.
Justy: thanx mate
Heres an alternative for the background, right now I don’t know if i like this as much but maybe with work it would be alright?
workin on another idea for a scene, like this one a bit more
I’m gonna place the guy to the right obviously, things still need work, like the window and blood. I also need to make the body in the tub clearer, and make one arm hang over the side a bit. Im also going to have some jars with organs in them on the window sill
Done a quick composite with my scene so far, does it work? I’m still debating whether I should use this or the design seen in earlier posts.
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ps i also think it looks better with borders…
it looks great , but the person inside the bath tub looks too small or maybe the bath tub is too big? i wonder what might had happend in that room , too scary i can look at it no more
I think the thing that bothers me with that tub BG is that the perspective is off comparitivly but i LOVE the effect that it produces. None of the other BGs have been quite dramatic at the tub. :applause:
magnetos: haha thanx, yeah when i look at it the person in the bath looks tiny. But i did use references (this background is from the cell, i used it for reference and drew it from scratch). Clawfoot bathes are huge though, i’ve got one that I can stretch my legs out in and I’m 6 foot 4. Maybe I should change it though?
Hana-chan: yeah the perspective is way off. I did an edit so you can compare to what it should probably look like. Tell me what you think works better, the effect from the distorted perspective or the realistic perspective? Thanx for your reply
i also need to fix that bluring around the killer (casued by the lazyness from very quick compositing lol). Then I’ll go in and detail the edges of everything to add a little detail
Since you are going for a more serious look a realistic perspective would be the best choice at least in my opinion.
Also after you fix the little blur I think the killer is going to have a stronger and more definite presence in the room.
Personaly I think its a good mood/ Idea overall.
MagicRubber: thanx for your input! and i think you’re very right about the blur/presence thing I 2 am finding the realistic perspective better, so i think this one it is!
Nothing pretty to add just a haiku to accompany the image:
I repent my sins,
My indulgence is my virtue,
I am ill at ease
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A gun AND a knife? Well at least he’s thorough. I guess if youre going to be a sloppy murderer, you might as well diversify your tools of destruction eh?
Lol! I agree with Ognus – the gun and knife at the ready seem too much. Usually a killer is either a gun OR a knife guy. The gun tucked into his pants while he slices with the knife (he likes to keep one hand free) is always an option. The knife OR the gun in one hand with the cross in the other seems like a good idea – either he took it off the dead body or he’s saying the Rosary after having commited murder? How about the gun in one hand and a gas can in the other so he can destroy the evidence? That would explain the kerchief over his face – he can’t stand the fumes.
Sorry, I’ve been watching too much CSI, Law & Order, etc. :sad:
Its his first time… he’s still in his larvae stage as a killer… in time, with practice his killings will come more easily, he’ll stop carying two weapons because he’s become comfortable with the other…
This ended up looking pretty good. And I’m happy with how you handled the cross issue. It looks much better. Even though I like the atmosphere you got with your filter, there are sure to be detractors who will dismiss your work because of the filter.
Ognus: haha yeah he does a propper but amateur job
Ilikesoup: thats kinda y i gave him both, for something different. He has his own style and a gun and a knife works best for him. But your ideas with gun in the pants and cross in the other hand sound tempting… You’ve got some very good ideas But im not sure if i want to change too much this late (i was hoping to finish it soon, but i might have a play around to see wat i can come up with)
“Sorry, I’ve been watching too much CSI, Law & Order, etc.”
How can you not, its on every channel every hour of the day lol
Lord Dubu: thanx, i know wat u mean about the filters. I wasn’t gonna use it on this image but the test I did on the killer looked awesome (i think anyway lol). People seem to think that by using filters, the artist is somehow cheating the viewer or that the artist has no skill and is hiding behind a mirage of filters. I personally do it because I like the final result and like you said, i feel it adds to this image. I just hope the 2d community won’t crucify or disregard me for it
just small changes, working on the “presence” of the killer in the scene. Some things here and there i dont like but here we go…
Been a while, haven’t done a great deal on this lately. Had a play with a black and white version, just messing around
