Ok, just a quick sidetrack, im trying to decide whether I should put him in a scene (my original intention) or to do something like in this picture:
BTW The background isn’t mine, just a copy and past from another image with a bit of editing, I just wanted to see what it could look like.
So what do you think? Scene or design?
If you think scene, what kind of scene do you think he should be in? I’m thinking gritty…
OK just roughing out some more ideas
Pencilled in some different crosses around the neck and arms etc, the following are some possible variations. Once again, these are only roughed in to get an idea and if I were to include them they would look better lol.
What do you think? Do any of them work or should I get rid of them?
I was thinking kinda along the line of Boondock Saints, a kind of Mecenary of God type thing.
Also I havn’t received any replies about whether I should put him in a scene or do something like the background in the last few images. I’d love to hear what any of you think 8)
waoo thats some cool picture , i would make it more creepy though ,i 'd lose the gun and i 'd replace it with a nice freshely decapitated screaming head 
haha thanx, i know wat you mean by making it more creepy, but I think by having him holding a head it would take a little away from the seriousness of the image. It would look very creepy, but I would like to try and achieve creepy without being overly obvious about it if you know what I mean. If I put him in a scene I would like to have a very mutilated body in the background though
Anyways heres an update, decided to go with a simple cross around the neck
I would love to hear some peoples comments about the different variations I could do with the crosses and what I should do with the background
To be honest, I don’t like the cross. It doesn’t make sense. His gesture clearly tells us he’s not spinning. The cloth on his face clearly tells us it’s not windy enough to move cloth, let alone a heavier cross…
I just think it cheapens the image.
I think you had something with the red-lines on the background before, I’d go back and explore that more.
Yeah I know what you mean. So do you not like the idea of the cross at all? Or is it just because of the movement?
The cross doesn’t bother me at all in and of itself… just the motion.
It’d be fine if it was even laying on his shoulder just below where it is now… as if, previous to the “snapshot” of this image he had spun, and it had landed there after the spin.
ok cool, i thought u ment the addition of the cross cheapens the hole image. Cause I can see how a cross can be a very ‘cheap’ way to add symbolism to a picture.
so here’s some more variations
which one, if any, works the best?
Hi Captain, great pic. I think the cross on the right arm is the best in terms of composition.
Justy: thanx mate
Heres an alternative for the background, right now I don’t know if i like this as much but maybe with work it would be alright?
workin on another idea for a scene, like this one a bit more
I’m gonna place the guy to the right obviously, things still need work, like the window and blood. I also need to make the body in the tub clearer, and make one arm hang over the side a bit. Im also going to have some jars with organs in them on the window sill
Done a quick composite with my scene so far, does it work? I’m still debating whether I should use this or the design seen in earlier posts.
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ps i also think it looks better with borders…
it looks great , but the person inside the bath tub looks too small or maybe the bath tub is too big? i wonder what might had happend in that room , too scary i can look at it no more
I think the thing that bothers me with that tub BG is that the perspective is off comparitivly but i LOVE the effect that it produces. None of the other BGs have been quite dramatic at the tub. :applause:
magnetos: haha thanx, yeah when i look at it the person in the bath looks tiny. But i did use references (this background is from the cell, i used it for reference and drew it from scratch). Clawfoot bathes are huge though, i’ve got one that I can stretch my legs out in and I’m 6 foot 4. Maybe I should change it though?
Hana-chan: yeah the perspective is way off. I did an edit so you can compare to what it should probably look like. Tell me what you think works better, the effect from the distorted perspective or the realistic perspective? Thanx for your reply
i also need to fix that bluring around the killer (casued by the lazyness from very quick compositing lol). Then I’ll go in and detail the edges of everything to add a little detail
Since you are going for a more serious look a realistic perspective would be the best choice at least in my opinion.
Also after you fix the little blur I think the killer is going to have a stronger and more definite presence in the room.
Personaly I think its a good mood/ Idea overall.
MagicRubber: thanx for your input! and i think you’re very right about the blur/presence thing I 2 am finding the realistic perspective better, so i think this one it is!
Nothing pretty to add just a haiku to accompany the image:
I repent my sins,
My indulgence is my virtue,
I am ill at ease
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A gun AND a knife? Well at least he’s thorough. I guess if youre going to be a sloppy murderer, you might as well diversify your tools of destruction eh?
Lol! I agree with Ognus – the gun and knife at the ready seem too much. Usually a killer is either a gun OR a knife guy. The gun tucked into his pants while he slices with the knife (he likes to keep one hand free) is always an option. The knife OR the gun in one hand with the cross in the other seems like a good idea – either he took it off the dead body or he’s saying the Rosary after having commited murder? How about the gun in one hand and a gas can in the other so he can destroy the evidence? That would explain the kerchief over his face – he can’t stand the fumes.
Sorry, I’ve been watching too much CSI, Law & Order, etc. :sad:
Its his first time… he’s still in his larvae stage as a killer… in time, with practice his killings will come more easily, he’ll stop carying two weapons because he’s become comfortable with the other…
This ended up looking pretty good. And I’m happy with how you handled the cross issue. It looks much better. Even though I like the atmosphere you got with your filter, there are sure to be detractors who will dismiss your work because of the filter.
