Where to begin?


#1

I’m a new member & this is my first post in this Fantastic Site! I feel like a Kid that just discovered Santa’s Workshop! I’m a traditional Artist (pencil sketches to paintings) and have 30 years of Live Action Film Production experience in the Art Department; and now I finally have the time & opportunity to explore the Digital Art World.

Went to Cal Arts (Walt Disney’s Art & Film school) so long ago, MACs were still B&W. Studied experimental Animation under Jules Engel; but when I got a job (drawing storyboards and designing & building Sets) on a Film, I took the plunge and never looked back.

Soooo, since I am surely & without a doubt the most Novice artist here… and in the presence of SO MUCH INCREDIBLE TALENT… I’d like to humbly ask:

What equipment & programs do you suggest I invest in to start? I’m primarily interested in Matte Painting; but have a very strong interest in Animation as well. (Mattes w/animated elements?)

In spite of my extensive film BKG (50+ Features & 400+ TV Commercials), I’ve only used PCs and have never owned a MAC. And as a grandfather, there’s no way for me to go back to school; so I’ll need to take tutorial courses on line. (like Lynda.com?)

Anyway, thanks so much for any suggestions or input!
Best regards, DJ Halver


#2

Wellcome to the forum. Great to have you and your experience here.

To start with mattepainting or almost any digital art you’ll need a Photoshop. For painting, some prefer also Painter, since might imitate traditional painting tools better, but usually you’ll need Photoshop anyway.

Something from Wacom is usually essistential too:

Wacom Intuos (3 or 4) are probaply most popular tablets here, just pick the size that serves best for your painting style. Wacon Cintiq is quite an expancive tool, but lets you paint straight to the display. Some still prefer Intuos, since your hand is not in the way when painting and you can get display with better color quality than Cintiq is. Or they are bothered by gap (the glass) between pen tip and surface.

Some quality display. I’m happy with my 24" Eizo.

A decent computer. PC and MAC will both get the job done.

Since interested in mattepainting I’d also recommend visiting www.mattepainting.org

About the animation tools you’ll get better advice from others.

Wellcome.

edit: and before paying for any online courses there are a lot of free resources for almost anything in internet or some good DVD:s - and people here or at mattepainting.org are usually happy to help.


#3

Hey Matti… Thanks so very much for your wise advice! DJ Halver


#4

Here in Finland we have a saying “kissa kiitoksella elää” (cat lives/gets along with thanks), but I think it usually also includes artist - so that’ll do for a week… :smiley:


#5

Again, welcome to the forum!

Well as a traditional artist, i’m sure you have the basic needs of a matte painter; a good understanding of lighting and composition.

On the technical side you going to need a mid level wacom tablet, something like an intuos 3 is ideal, anything more is just bells and whistles :slight_smile: You can pick up a few on ebay.

Put together a good PC or Mac, many will argue one or the other but either will do fine for running the essentials. A good graphics card, most gaming cards will be good, but one in the quadro range will be more suited to vfx needs.

A dual monitor setup is a good investment, the bigger and more expensive monitors you can afford the better. Always good to be able to maximise your work area.

And one piece of equipment that often goes overlooked but one that can really make or break your work, a comfortable seat to park your butt on! Never under estimate how much your working environment can effect your work :slight_smile:

As for programs, well lets see, photoshop is the essential and must have, this is where most digital artists will spend most of his waking day. I wouldn’t recommend Painter for matte painting, its a great program for concept art and simulating traditional painting, but for matte painting this just encourages bad habbits. Once the painting is finished and you want to begin bringing things to life, you might want to invest in a program like after effects, from there you can start adding little effects like smoke, moving clouds, creating simple camera moves to add depth, that kind of thing.

When you come to the point of wanting to add more advance animation you need to start moving into the 3d world; cinema 4d is a good 3d program that is very much designed towards photoshop users with great tools for turning matte paintings into moving environments.

To add to the above, you could also use an external hard drive for storing reference pictures, stock footage, textures etc. Every matte painter should have an extensive library of references :slight_smile: It;s worth noting that matte painting is less paint and more photo manipulation today.

Stock footage is always handy to have for bringing shots to life, http://www.videocopilot.net/products/action2/ is a good one.

A good digital SLR is also a good investment. Add to that a HD recorder.

As for training, the internet is lacking somewhat in training material for matte painters. However there’s a few kicking around. Take a look through some of the free videos on this website: http://www.videocopilot.net/tutorials/ you’ll find a few environment related tutorials in there. Then there’s gnomon workshop that is the leader in vfx training material, with a number of matte painting related dvds. http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/

Well thats a pretty good list to keep you going. Second to all that, just look at peoples work and ask questions :slight_smile:

good luck :slight_smile:
Dave.


#6

David… can’t thank you enough for taking the time to reply to my post… and for your excellent suggestions, insight & advice. I’m so excited to be in the process of compiling my tools & setting up an area where I can let my imagination run wild.

Was so pleased that you shared your site & sketch work with me. Very interesting and intruiging! As I’m in a rush right now, I’m looking forward to going back soon to check out your work more thoroughly.

As for AVATAR… have to ask. Did you ever have an opportunity to meet Jim? I first met him while we worked on “Battle Beynd the Stars”… then again while working on “The Abyss.” All I can say is he’s truly a brilliant guy, but his “bed side manners”… ah, well I guess when you live in his stratosphere, you don’t care what people think of you.

I heard from Michael Beihn (and others who’ve known & worked with him for years) that when “ALIENS” was being shot (in the UK), the Grips had a T-Shirt printed up that parodied the oft-quoted Will Rogers (“I’ve never met a man I didn’t like.”); which read, “Will Rogers never met Jim Cameron”. HA!

Again, many Thanks! DJ Halver


#7

Hey David,

Glad i could help. Looking forward to seeing your work :slight_smile:

Regarding Avatar, sadly Jim never made his way to London during post, unless he was secretly in diguise! Though agreed, directing does seem to take its toll on these people :slight_smile:

Feel free to keep posting with any questions you might have or fun stories :slight_smile:

Dave.


#8

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