What would you like to have?

#241

Originally posted by ThirdEye_01
[B]“Any interface that requires you to take your hand off the mouse is destined to become awkward, unless you’re left handed”

I use two hands to play, not one, and i move my keyboard slightly to the left so i can put my left hand on the arrows. Right now C4D is conceived to be used with 2 hands, one on the numeric part of the keyboard (that in every keyboard is at the right) and one on the mouse so my method wouldn’t be so different at all. And so far it’s the only one that allows you to zoom, rotate and pan at the same time. I’d like to have a method to do more than an action at the same time, all the ways you pointed allow only one movement each time. [/B]

Most artistic apps are two handed, if you only use the mouse your efficiency is dramatically slower than using a mouse and keyboard. And I don’t get the left handed comment, why do people think left handed people use the mouse in the left hand? As a teacher I have only seen two left handed students do this, and we got them setup the other way and they prefered it. Left handed people tend to have an advantage of being more ambidextrous partly due to the fact that even in todays society, most things are right handed, and most people teach things rigth handed, I remember in grade three my teacher refused to help me learn to write since I wouldn’t use my right hand. I failed writing in grade three and my parent put up a big fight to get into grade four, talk about unfair. Sorry about the little randt but drives me nuts when peple generalise like that. Here’s an interesting observation for you though. I went to a fine arts highschol, now in a typical school with classes of thirty students you will find 1-3 left students on average. You will also typically find a some what even ratio of boys to girls. At my highschool the gilrs to boys ratios was 7to1, and typically 1/4 to 1/3 of students in a class were left handed. I think that says something about the arts. Also people who think guys who go fine arts schools are gay, are sadly misinformed, who wouldn’t want to go to a school where there are 7 girls for every guy. :slight_smile:

As for the Camera movement, I think would be very accurate, I"m not sure what you mean adam. Also I like your suggestion about the camera zooming in on the cursor thats a great idea.

#242

Originally posted by Kaiskai
Also people who think guys who go fine arts schools are gay, are sadly misinformed, who wouldn’t want to go to a school where there are 7 girls for every guy. :slight_smile:

Damn, i knew i made a mistake learning electronics :wink:
But hey, we had the 2 of the 4 girls at our school in my class :slight_smile:

#243

Originally posted by Srek
Damn, i knew i made a mistake learning electronics :wink:
But hey, we had the 2 of the 4 girls at our school in my class :slight_smile:

And i bet they were as ugly as hell and they behaved as they were the most beautiful chicks in the world :smiley:

#244

Nope, both were rather nice to look at so i got rrrrealy lucky :slight_smile:
(except for the fact that one of them gave me a kick after several weeks of beeing her boyfriend)

Cheers
Srek

#245

Originally posted by Srek
[B]Nope, both were rather nice to look at so i got rrrrealy lucky :slight_smile:
(except for the fact that one of them gave me a kick after several weeks of beeing her boyfriend)

Cheers
Srek [/B]

LOL :smiley:

#246

You need accuracy for games?? Damn…

“I use two hands to play, not one, and i move my keyboard slightly to the left so i can put my left hand on the arrows. Right now C4D is conceived to be used with 2 hands”

I don’t use the numeric pad with Cinema precisely because it’s too far away from my left hand’s natural location. If I do use it or the right half of the keyboard, I have to take my eyes off the screen and focus on where my fingers are, I lose concentration, drop my chocolate bar and everything goes wrong :slight_smile: I can’t move the keyboard to the left coz it’ll fall off the table. The keyboard is fine, but the software can’t assume all users can arrange their kit so specific and often-used keys are in easy reach.

My girlfriend is left handed and if anything she has the advantage, as her non-mouse hand is right by the numeric keypad. (She’s not gay and I don’t think she went to art school :D)

I once saw a mouse with some kind of numeric keypad on top of it, but it was the size of a dinner plate…

#247

I am left handed and i just use t he mouse on the other side of the computer. the only problem with this is when you have one of those ergonomic mouses that is contoured. this makes it impossile to use the mouse on the other side of the keyboard.

also there is a ratio of 2 boys to 1 girl for every left handed person born.this is supposedly linked to testostrone, but nobody knows the real reason. As to the arts school thing left handed people have tendancys to go into the arts.

as shown by michelangelo and leonardo da vinci

#248

I was left-handed but then they corrected me at kindergarden and i became right-handed :rolleyes: But when i play soccer i still use the left leg more than the right.

#249

lol thats why it pays to live in America. Here your parents could have sued for dicsrimination. But that counts cause handedness is actually caused by the brain. Not by the actual hand. of course I have Italian neighbors and they tell me my left handedness is a mark of the beast. So maybe you wouldnt want to use that hand in Italy. Socially unaccpetable and all.

#250

Well, we don’t live in 1800 anymore :wink:

#251

Originally posted by JIII
lol thats why it pays to live in America. Here your parents could have sued for dicsrimination. But that counts cause handedness is actually caused by the brain. Not by the actual hand. of course I have Italian neighbors and they tell me my left handedness is a mark of the beast. So maybe you wouldnt want to use that hand in Italy. Socially unaccpetable and all.

Yes actually I’m a witch, cause they were often identified by left handedness often as well, didn’t have to be left handed to be a witch, but if you were left handed your were a witch. Yeesh

And as for suing, maybe in the states but in Canada you wouldn’t have a case man. Canada is a little more picky about what you can sue for and what counts as abuse, denying my education because of what hand I use isn’t considered illegal, well maybe now, but not in the 80’s. It would be if it was considered a handy cap, but its not (thankfully) but its simply looked at as if you refuse to use your right hand its the same as refusing to learn how to type its up to the student not the school to adapt :frowning: And to this date I print rather than write simply because I was never taught how to write properly.

#252

The brain has 2 hemispheres,the left and the right.The left hemisphere is generally for creative endeavours,the right for analytical type problem solving {depends on handedness}.When you have been sketching for quite some time and you look at your watch and it way past the hour you thought it was thats because you shifted from one hemipshere to the other,or the creative side from the analytical.The creative side has no real ability to judge time passed,so thats why so much time goes bye bye when you are drawing,however if you were drawing and make say a line and you name it the line in your head as you are doing it the other hemipshere will appear with a rush again and unless you can shift easily between one to the other as the majority of artists can do you will find the image becomes a bit mechanical because the analytical side is now drawing your image.Its like adults who are asked to draw a human being and they draw something like a stick figure and get really annoyed,well this because as children we used to draw stick figures and this logged in the brain,but many years later the moment you are asked to draw a figure this log pops up,its kind of like this,I want to draw a figure,the creative side trys to start the process and the analytical jumps n front and screams I know how to do it and quickly produces the old stick figure log again,however if you learn to cognitvely shift anyone can become at the minimum a reasonable artist,its about a shift from one hemisphere to the other.A very good book on this subject is Betty Edwards Drawing on The Right Side of The brain,it explains the process better then I can.Between the hemipsheres is a tangle of like wires called the Corpus Callosum and it joins the left and right side of the brain together,without the connection people can not recognise one of their hands as being their own etc :slight_smile:

Ok rant over.

Oh ya I am left handed and calligraphy is a real bitch.

Someone should nvent a numeric pad with some command keys that clips to the side of your puter at a 80 degree angle say.

Stu.

#253

Originally posted by kiwi
[B]Oh ya I am left handed and calligraphy is a real bitch.

Someone should nvent a numeric pad with some command keys that clips to the side of your puter at a 80 degree angle say.

Stu. [/B]

Mmm calligraphy had to do it in commercial arts a bit, couldn’t do it verywell either, its all wrong :slight_smile:

You can by seperate numeric pads, granted you then have two numeric pades but meh, besides I use a speedpad so I don’t have these problems anyways, if Thirdeye’s suggestion was doen, I would change my set up a little and use the direction pad to work just like a nintendo would :slight_smile:

Since we are totally off topic, Why is it that consoles always have the D-pad on the left side of the controller and the computer usually has the direction control on the right side of the keyboard

#254

My comment about accuracy comes from playing games like Quake and Unreal. Yeah, you need a lot of accuracy to blow up the baddies with a chain gun or bazooka–not. My experience was that when you tried some real precise movement there was a tendency to overshoot/undershoot translation and/or rotation. Maybe I just suck at games? :slight_smile:

#255

I don’t read all of posts, very long huh :rolleyes:

My wishlist is maybe ugly but I must tell;

-More Customize Handles [ie. alt key for rotate camera]
-Node Base [EVERYTHING]
-N-GON [of course]
-Animation Capable Painting System - ie. Newtek Aura [it will be very cool]
-Hypervoxel [maybe rewrite pyrocluster]

My real wonders at the end of list!
[b]

  • New rendering engine.
  • Support parallel network rendering.
  • Linux version!
    [/b]
    Yes, If Maxon want to be Great must port Linux version. Everyday Linux comes to close to close to close …
#256

Do the numeric pads also have command keys?

I read somewhere there will be a Windows version of Linux in development soon.

Personally I think some more modelling tools will make another chunk of the 3d community make the jump to C4D.Man I hope we get n gons,its what everyone measures C4D by now :hmm:

Whats wrong with our render engine???..do you mean because we dont have sss and HDRI inbuilt?

Stu.

#257

Windows version of linux, that makes no sense, if its windows its windows if its linux its linux,impossible to be both. heck even getting them to work together is hard enough as I’m now discovering, especialy when on the same system :confused:

#258

i’m a lefty who uses the mouse righty…hey the whole is designed around rightys…

think the game movement idea is not such a bad idea on the whole even if it got a slating…it may just be that what we are actually saying is that we are not happy with the current method of doing it.

windows running linux…there is a version…but its a non starter imho…rather wine version…eg linux…running windows apps. either way dedicated version of net render and any other linux developments are a bonus, again imho.

(ps. supposedly and this is not a woman/man slur…but if you ask a woman and a man to draw a bike…the man always draws a working tech version…eg the chain, spokes, pedels…whereas woman go for the concept part…strange but…true…ask your friends to do it…wierd).

#259

Originally posted by flingster

(ps. supposedly and this is not a woman/man slur…but if you ask a woman and a man to draw a bike…the man always draws a working tech version…eg the chain, spokes, pedels…whereas woman go for the concept part…strange but…true…ask your friends to do it…wierd).

Completely agree with that. But I have to add this is happen to pure unilateral feelings from who are not think on it!

" Use the force. Think. " Obi Wan Kenobi.

#260

This thread will be sticky till we send Maxon the list :wavey: