what the heck is going on with HASH

#21

what a name for a product

#22

It’s the creator’s last name. The product is called Animation Master. (odd considering it’s lack of mastering stability)

#23

Originally posted by Chewey
It’s the creator’s last name. The product is called Animation Master. (odd considering it’s lack of mastering stability)

If the creator really wanted to name the company after himself, he should have called it “Raving Egomaniacal Lunatic, Inc.”. :wink: Oh, yes, I’m bitter…

#24

I got banned fromthe list too, though I don’t consider myself a heavywieght. I responded to Gilles letter but mostly defended the Am renderer- I slipped at the end and fell down when I said stability was a concern of mine (listed numerous places where I could predict a crash), and listed a few particular problems with the renderer… oops.

While I’m going to continue with my project using AM, I think I’ll be posting a little diatribe against the product and NOT recommend it to others. Im TIRED of the rude emails I got from Steve (a flurry of which were nearly rabid in tone a few months back), and the stupid “community” of zealouts they’re conditioning on that email list.

#25

Man, what a pathetic, pitiful company. I bought AM back in 1999 but couldn’t tolerate the constant crashing, creased models, dogshit render, and support bullshit. I hope the company and the “product” dies.

#26

A little update for you folks:

Steve got tired of banning everyone who posted under the topic ‘I can’t believe Hash did this but it doesn’t surprise me’, and he took down the mailing list.

His banning of nearly all users who posted their opinions, along with repeated warnings “stop posting comments on this thread” didn’t stop the flood of angry emails and the list was shut down the hard way. Happy end.

#27

Bwahahahahaah! :applause:

So funny. Well I’m wondring if a channel is going to opened up in here for AM- the vote thread is locked and I didn’t get to vote!:thumbsdow

#28

LOL this is great Commie. it figures that they would do that instead of listen to whatthe people are saying and say ok we hear you and we will be working on it. Instead they say F all of you we will take the list down so there.

It is the cut your nose off to spite your face idea. Boy this is is really out of control on there part. I’m amazed that people this dumb can make a product that was great at one time.

#29

This just keeps getting better and better. I pretty much guarantee nobody at Hash is going to learn from this, though. They are the touchiest bunch I’ve ever met (they get offended very easily, as you can tell).

#30

I just recieved a word up on truespace 6.5, the user has ask for better animation and Roman at Caligari made it known to his staff that they will do it. after a lengthy barrage of rant of having no animation improvement and yet nobody got booted from the list. Which to say Caligari is way more tolerant of complaints with software.
Well looking at the feature they’ve added , seem pretty impressive.
New clip editor to add animation and blend with the prior animation already loaded,
realtime playback regardless of video card,
physically base joint so characters could walk upstairs then let character fall with physics control animation.
Adhesion (make sticky or brittle object when they fall on something)
Local physical enviorment- stimulate leaves blowing in the wind after a car drive thru it
Selective subdivision
My fave! Geometry paint-paint mutiple 3d object on any plane
anyway the list goes on, I have truespace5.1 and was amaze how much has improve,but the only thing holding it back was the animation, and now its better and still in the low budget user market closer to hash. fortunately I save up for Lightwave. if I didn’t have the money I would go with truespace 6.5 and wings3d as a supplement charcater modeler.
if you cant afford the heavy hitters of software your welcome to chat at GalaxyNet @ #truespace irc server irc.sedona.net

#31

I would not recommend truespace, either. They’ve always been behind in animation department, but hey, if they manage to change that, good for them.

In my (ancient, a few years ago) experience with Truespace, I had to spend twice its price in plugins to be able to do what I wanted with it. Had I not spent that money, I would’ve been able to afford Lightwave, a long time ago. Something to think about I guess.

Lightwave is almost there with the ‘big guys’ and Truespace… very much like Animation Master, isn’t. But please, don’t listen to my opinion, I could be wrong several times over - do your own research (and don’t blame me if you choose something that doesn’t work out for you!)

#32

truespace have come along way, and if your not sure you can play with the demo, they always beleive in doing that! hash stop doing demo back to version 6, if I am not mistaken

you can also check out the animation and physics

http://www.caligari.com/store/special/truesnitch/tsnitch_home.html

#33

Something else to consider: Realsoft3d 4.5. I haven’t actually played with it yet, but it seems to have a pretty nice feature list (then again, so does A:M;)). You can use your A:M license to get a competitive upgrade to Realsoft 3d 4.5 for $450 (as opposed to the usual price of $700).

#34

LOL you want to see something funny go to http://venice.killernuts.org/animaster/ and do a search for
My opinions concerning Hash INC. and you can read all the post and see what was so bad about it that got so many people kicked.

You can even get steves email at hash there so we can all send him email telling them what a bunch of dumb things they are doing.

#35

Originally posted by Commiekeebler
[B]A little update for you folks:

Steve got tired of banning everyone who posted under the topic ‘I can’t believe Hash did this but it doesn’t surprise me’, and he took down the mailing list.

His banning of nearly all users who posted their opinions, along with repeated warnings “stop posting comments on this thread” didn’t stop the flood of angry emails and the list was shut down the hard way. Happy end. [/B]

You’ve gotta be kidding me :surprised my gawd now THAT is ridiculous dang :annoyed:

salud

#36

Originally posted by dfaris
LOL you want to see something funny go to http://venice.killernuts.org/animaster/ and do a search for
My opinions concerning Hash INC.

Heh forgot about that thing, would be go now since Steve wouldn’t answer my emails subscription to let me back on the list :thumbsdow

ah well c’est la vie :shrug:

salud

#37

That Hash vs honest customer “insta-ban” on that forum has been going on for years.

I suspect he’s related to the “soup nazi” on the Seinfeld show.

#38

i used A:M version 8. i was pretty satisfied with the product. my big concern was the lack of hardware acceleration. of course this was on a mac, i didn’t have many crashes either.

could it be that the mac version was more stable, a better product?? amazing first.

but i do remember how hard it wasd to get answers to my concerns. in fact if they were still working on the mac acceleration issues it would not surprise me.

i remember reading an interview of martin hash. he said they were the only profitable 3d company… anyone surprised by that? keep money leave the problems…

:shrug:

oh well i guess A:M is not gonna get better, amatuers and newbies will have to look elsewere for software.

#39

Originally posted by lildragon
[B]You’ve gotta be kidding me :surprised my gawd now THAT is ridiculous dang :annoyed:

salud [/B]

The list is not down, it’s still happily chugging along. Ok, not happily chugging along, but it’s still there.

I know this has been mentioned before, but what about starting up an Animation Master section here on CG-Talk? No offense, but if Houdini can get one I don’t see why a soft that has a much larger user base like AM can’t. C’mon Lil, I remember when you were cutting your teeth on AM. Throw the other doggies (or dragons ;)) a bone.

I also want to say that in my experience, Steve has always been a stand up guy to me… and I’ve complained at him a lot. The only difference is that I’ve done my bitching directly too him. Not saying the mass banning isn’t a bad thing (it is), I just hate seeing a guy who has treated me so well for many, many years getting dissed so heavily.

#40

Oops my bad. The list is back up again (it wasn’t down for long), but the onslaught of anger and frustration continues…