Vue Esprit Forum

#10

I have seen some fantastic work done in Vue.

I know using a program like Vue or Bryce is looked down on by those people that create their landscapes from scratch, ( and considered ‘cheating’ by some people. )

But isn’t all CG a form of cheating ? ( I think we as CG artists are more so CG directorsthan actuall artists … after all it is the computer that paints the image that we create. We just tell the computer what we want it to look like .
That is not to say that CG artists can’t do traditional art.
Not at all. I am in absolute awe at the ( traditional ) talent here at CGtalk.
I hope to not offend anyone . :slight_smile:

#11

Hi Vegan,
No offense at all … What you are talking about is very important : the question of 'What is art and what is not art ’ and what is ‘cheating’ while creating 3d pictures…
IMHO : you could ask the same question for painters … if using watercolors, do you really think that painters using oil and canvas are cheater ?? or those who use mixed medias or photos ??? Some great pictures created with 3dmax or Lightwave are mixed pictures with hires HDRI backgrounds for example… and I don’t consider that is cheating … Important is not the car do you drive, but how you drive it … Comparison could be very useful between different softwares…
Vue in the last version 5 is now a very interesting soft with very cool features like GI or radiosity. It’s now possible to render very high quality pictures, and the we are far beyond the ‘easy landscape creation tool’ … Vue is much more than that . We all must learn what is possible to do with this new tool… and a place like CGTalk could be very important to share our experience and improve our skill because it is a professional, moderated forum…

Sincerly
Patrick

#12

This is a great idea. A serious Vue forum has been needed for ages. The sharing of ideas and tutorials benefits everyone, and it’s great to see what art is being produced across the globe by eager Vuemeisters :slight_smile:

#13

You make some very valid points here Patrick. Will the new lighting capabilites of Vue 5 be avaialble for us Vue 4 Professional users do you happen to know? I’m a little confused over this.

#14

MouseJockey,

the new features like GI and Radiosity are only available in Vue 5 and Vue 5 infinite. This last version is the new name for Vue 5 Pro. The upgrade from Vue 4 pro to Vue 5 Infinite will be only 149 $… See here : http://www.e-onsoftware.com/Press/PR.php?date=December%2013,%202004

#15

Aha!! All is now clear. Many thanks Patrick. Seasons Greets :slight_smile:

#16

That sounds good I don’t see why it would hurt, it’s a software on the way up not down whereas bryce has been in a perpetual downward spiral for a long time now.

#17

yeah, I’m game

#18

Actually, the question right now is how many signatures cgtalk needed to consider the Vue forum?

I’ve been to the Vue site and I’m just awed by the new version and its capabilities.

#19

A Vue forum would be great!

Some of the things done in Vue are just amazing. And it’s really easy to use. :smiley:

#20

We as a current user of Vue 4 Pro I must say it would be a plus for me. Now that E-Onsoftware has brought out Vue 5 with Vue 5 Infinite on it’s heels this forum idea makes sense. It’s got my vote.

#21

Hi All! It’s great idea - Vue Esprit forum. Yes! Yes! Yes! … :thumbsup:

#22

Vue is quickly becoming a major 3D tool a talk forum would be very helpful.

#23

I vote yes Vue is a great tool to have and a forum would be helpful.

#24

I own Vue 4 Pro and it is the best landscaping program I have ever used - this software deserves a forum without question.

I think programs like Vue, Poser, Bryce and so forth get a lot of bad press from the pros because there is so much trash floating around from people just using pure Bryce - mountain, tree, sky, water, done. Bryce is a starter program for people in 3D, I think - it gets your hands dirty but it isn’t professional at all and should be avoided in most cases… that is not the case with Vue. Vue is basically the advanced version of Bryce - and you can really get great results with it while working in combination with another 3D package like 3D Studio or Maya - especially with Vue Pro and its export features. I have no real excuse for Poser, haha - although I do use it now and again to cook up a quick model to use as a shadow in my graphic design projects… it really has no place in professional 3D, IMO.

If you haven’t tried Vue - give it a shot, http://www.e-onsoftware.com has a trial version for d/l - it has HDRI features that get really nice results.

#25

I agree!! I think having it here would be great!

#26

Yeah, I’m all for it.

#27

yes I agree . I think the art in the hand not in the tool .

#28

Has anyone produced a tut to show integrating Vue with LW for an animation?

A Vue section here is a no brainer. If you want great exterior shots you can’t get a bigger bang for your buck. Serious discussion on techniques would benefit everyone and help to introduce this excellent tool to a new audience.

I agree with kpwproductions comments re Poser.

#29

I am one of those “new to vue” but not totally new to 3D; I would love to have a quality forum (most of what I have seen is product bragging/bashing or off topic posts. Someone else mentioned how much trash is out there, and that is true. I want to be a part of a serious community. Hopefully we will develop that here.