VOTE! 2-MINUTE FILM CLUB!:Challenge:1 The Big "Chase"


#1

Ok I have picked the winners
based on a POPULAR vote

WANNA JOIN THE NEXT 2 Minute film Club?
Click the thread below!:

2-MINUTE FILM CLUB!:Challenge:2 “The fight”

Lets see the current winners

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POPULAR VOTING
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Best Visual Effects
archerx!

Animation: http://www.archerx.com/Stuff/OlivierArcher_2-minfilmclub-chase.wmv (made in 3d max, rendered in vray (no gi) and premiere)

Thread: http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=251386&page=1&pp=20

And in the voting cathegories;

A SWEEP!

Best Cinematography
Best Storyline
Best Editing

<LI>Best Overall Entry

AND THE winner!

Best Overall ENTRY!:

ZaKKoS!
Animation: http://www.lavendettadimanno.com/cgtalk/VALERIO_S_2MINUTE_FILM_CLUB(720x360).mov (QuickTime Sorenson 3 (720x360 - 170Mb))

Thread: http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=253650


First I would like to thank Sam Chen for his support and his ideas!

Click on the thread below here are the Rules for the current challenge:

2-MINUTE FILM CLUB!:Challenge:1 The Big “Chase”

Ok here we go time to vote, please pick what you believe
is the best entry for each category:
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[ul]
[li]Best Cinematography[/li][li]Best Storyline[/li][li]Best Editing[/li][li]Best Visual Effects[/li][li]Best Overall Entry[/li][/ul]
[/color][font=Verdana]Go to the voting thread HERE: [font=Arial Black]http://kvaalen.com/cgtalk/2minfilm/index.php[/font][/font]

and come back here to tell us what you thought of the entries!
(And keep this in mind, SMALLER VERSIONS of the films are usually posted within the WIP threads. )

(Thanks to Samuel Kvaalen for developing the voting page!)

I’ll post the results next week along with the next topic.

-R

PS HolyJoe I had to go forward, ill make it up to you soon.


#2

The mov file from Igor Sandman crashes with my Quicktime 7 Player, the ideatheft mov file just has sound but no video. Maybe it’s my Quicktime player but all the other mov files I’ve got work fine. Steve Sherrin’s mov file works well too.


#3

some links don’t work


#4

Which ones?
There might be bandwith problems.

-R


#5

Just click the links and watch the movies in your browser. That’s the only way i could get some of them to work for some reason.

Nate


#6

It crashes with mine too…just watch it online or with another player (like vlc)

the ideatheft mov file just has sound but no video.

same problem here. I think it’s the os codec that is broken but if you download the latest .mov from sergio’s wip thread it should work (at least it worked for me)

BTW who see the shorts can post c/c on them? we are starving for feedbacks!


#7

i’ve been posting feedback (if any) to the original WIP thread.

what is up with entries #5 and #10 on the voting page (re: no info)? does this mean there were only 8 finished entries? i was expecting more but since i didn’t finish, i feel guilty saying too much about it. does anyone have any thought on why there weren’t more entries?

for me, this exercise, and the finished entries, stressed the importance of using an animatic. it has become clearer to me that establishing story, camera angles, pacing, mood, even lighting and overall element integration (relationships between characters, sets, SFX, etc.) is so important, and so much easier to do using storyboards and quick sketches -as opposed to just winging it and hoping something cool lturns out.

in my opinion, this also backs up what scott harris mentioned in one of his posts regarding the benefits of going from animatic, to a low poly ‘skeleton’ version, to a gradually ‘beefed up’ version to a finished piece; you always have a ‘finished’ piece that you can continue to show and get feedback on at basically every stage of the production (kinda like keyframing with a pose to pose or hybrid method instead of straight ahead animation).

it’s no wonder that’s how the pros generally do it; i hope i can remember to utilize this method more often in my own work.


#8

it’s ok to post comments on the wip thread for me, my message was for the ones who don’t say a thing, good or bad, on the shorts. I know a lot of “errors” in my entry but people with different sensibility may find different meanings or flaws.

the final entries are only 7 and i think that there are not more because this is the first time and most people were doing not live action which is probably easier or faster. Also a lot of people didn’t even tried to make something except of saying that they had surely partecipated. So you think that you’ll find a lot of works but in the end…from the original discussion i can remember only Igor Sandman and SergioKomic.


#9

yeah, it’s too bad when people don’t leave a comment but sometimes it’s just difficult to find something constructive to say…


#10

Why does everyone have to use a gun? Sad, we have lost the essence of film making.


#11

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE! Tell us what is the essence of film making!


#12

Wow very hostile. Is one of them your entry? Well at the Savannah College of art and Design we are not allowed to use gun or have car chase scenes. That really pushes our creativity and helps us avoid the normal means of entertaiment.

Sorry if I offended you.

edit: thanx for editing the post.


#13

Wow very hostile. Is one of them your entry? Well at the Savannah College of art and Design we are not allowed to use gun or have car chase scenes. That really pushes our creativity and helps us avoid the normal means of entertaiment.

1)Yes one of the entries is mine, it have a gun in it and I really can’t make a link between a gun and the “essence of film making” since one aspect of the “essence of film making” for me is to use what is needed to get the film done. If I have to make a movie about pirates probably I should get a vessel don’t you think?
Imagine this:

A potential client come to you and ask for a car chase with a gunfight
you say: “hey man, guns kills the essence of film making. Where I studied they don’t allowed us to use them”
He says: “bang, you’re fired”

2)You came here and simply dropped your line without anything constructive to say. Not to mention that, as I said in the edited post, 5 out of 7 entries don’t have guns in them!

Sorry if I offended you.

You haven’t offended me. With your statement you made yourself ridiculous. It seemed that you were the master of all film maker that came to the earth to give us all your wise.

edit: thanx for editing the post.

Sometimes i’m too impulsive:blush:

I ask another time because with a peaceful talk we can get important things:
For you what is the essence of film making?


#14

And I think you may have missed the point of his comment.

Basically the challange was to pull off a chase sequence. Since 90% of these do the samething… “Chase sequence? O then someone must have a gun on the chase-e!” I can see what he means by the essence of filmmaking.

I absolutely agree with your statements that the right tool for the right job. The challange here though, or so I believe it to be, is to think outside the box when it comes to telling a “story” within the guidelines of the topic without having to resort to gimmicks and cliche devices.

A chase scene could have easily been someone leaving a bank and maybe someone follows them outside. They try to catch the person to give them something they dropped in the bank, but the person is paranoid and doesn’t know it would be an innocent encounter and thus their paranoia drives them to run down alleys, through traffic, across a highway, through crowds of people, etc…

The filmmakers job would then be to convey the story of this persons mis-understanding of the situation using the visual emotions of fear and paranoia which would lead us into the short story of “The Chase”.

This is not to say that using guns, or fast car chases would be out of the question. Obviously if the story warrants those particulars, then of course.

But I have to agree I was looking at this mini-challange with interest to see more creative and original ideas rather than what mega-wood already has a plenty.


#15

There’s chair chase scenes aplenty in hollywood?

Wow…

And here I thought it would be a hillarious-original idea…
…I must be losing it…


#16

Stereotypes are useful when you have to let a lot of people understand the same thing but this apart what made me angry was HOW he (have not) told his opinion.

I absolutely agree with your statements that the right tool for the right job. The challange here though, or so I believe it to be, is to think outside the box when it comes to telling a “story” within the guidelines of the topic without having to resort to gimmicks and cliche devices.

But I have to agree I was looking at this mini-challange with interest to see more creative and original ideas rather than what mega-wood already has a plenty.

Probably this is the point. I have not searched for originality. I have searched for standards. I’ve not already mastered what I want to do so before going for something completely out of the rules I try to do things like the ones who know how to do them and as I’ve already said I knew that our story is not original but if you look at the entries only 2 have guns and mine only is a chase like the one you can see in an action movie. Sergio said well, not a lot of chair chase in hollywood and how many trolls crushed by a girl on a couch have you seen recently? This guy took 2 out of 7 shorts and made a generalization that for me is not fair.

A chase scene could have easily been someone leaving a bank and maybe someone follows them outside. They try to catch the person to give them something they dropped in the bank, but the person is paranoid and doesn’t know it would be an innocent encounter and thus their paranoia drives them to run down alleys, through traffic, across a highway, through crowds of people, etc…

Hey this is a good story! We did something similar in a videoclip here.

The filmmakers job would then be to convey the story of this persons mis-understanding of the situation using the visual emotions of fear and paranoia which would lead us into the short story of “The Chase”.
This is not to say that using guns, or fast car chases would be out of the question. Obviously if the story warrants those particulars, then of course.

I totally agree with you.


#17

The challenge here was to learn. Learn what works and what doesn’t, learn how to tell a story, learn how to use the different tools. I would guess that most film makers started out by emulating others before they “stretched the envelope”. I’m planning on entering the next challenge crosses fingers and would like to see healthy crits on the story, not sweeping generalizations like “dude your main character was wearing sandles and that is so cliche so don’t ever do it…” Good crits include what were perceived strengths (and praise), perceived weaknesses/flaw (harsh if need be), a possible solution to the weakness/flaw, then finish up with an overview of the project (normally on a positive note).
This is not a feel good strategy, rather it is a conduit for learning and open dialog; frankly I’m surprised if people attending places like SCAD and VFS aren’t learning this.

The essence of filmmaking is to tell a story, if they did that then the essence is not lost.


#18

Well I thought the contest was loads of fun. I like all the entries as well.

Guns in film!.. I’ll have some.

Car Chase?..Heck yes!

Why not just get rid of violence all together. That would make for some pretty sweet movies.

NOT!

Elements like these exist to make things interesting. Hows else do you tell the story in an action movie.

Do you think Lord of the Rings would have been better if the Hobbits sat down with Sauron and talk about one anothers feelings, then hugged at the end. Nope!

Any great story needs action to pick up the mood. Even if the action is just 2 minutes long.

So in closing I’d like to say that the 2 Minute Film Club “Rocks”:buttrock:
With or without guns.:wise:


#19

Congratulations everybody… you all did a great job.

It’s too bad I did not had the time to participate. I’ll probable jump in the next chalenge!

Regarding the gun thingy… With or without… a movie is a freakin’ movie and we should respect the creators. If you don’t like it… don’t watch it… it’s pretty simple!

Cheers!


#20

2min film club = good idea… good challenge and good films!
and yeah same here wish i couldve gotten in this one…cant wait til the next one, i’m not so busy this time :smiley: