Same question form me…
Font looks OK / not too harsh on the eyes in Safari IMO, but the spacing between elements and the UI layout is really bad.
Why are we borrowing a page from the Facebook playbook (i.e. scrolling timeline off to the side with a ton of wasted space)? The timeline metaphor is not a useful way of navigting forum threads IMO, and because of how the spacing is used there is a lot more scrolling now than there was before.
In general Facebook are the LAST people we should borrow UI ideas from. Their “updates and improvements” over the years have been almost universally terrible, at least if you’re talking about using a computer and not a phone. But even there, when I access this site via iPhone, I would never use a timeline widget like that. It’s just easier to flik and scroll and scan for responses.
But in any case there’s too much wasted space. This forum is not easier to use right now than it was before. One final comment: the link / edit / reply buttons are hard to see because of how much brighter the main body text is. Might want to reduce the contrast ratio a bit there, make the buttons slightly brigher.)
The thing I am still unclear on is, how far along are we with this redesign? What’s temporary and what’s not?
On the C4D homepage cover the the right side of the page and it looks quite nice, uncover it again and “dogs dinner” comes to mind. It does look like the blind are deigning web pages now.( I’ll bet they really are and I’ve just upset a lot of seeing people).
A box floating halfway up the thread, it’s getting worse…even Srek has fallen outside into the grey abyss…
What browser are you using? I don’'t have that behavior in either Chrome in Windows 10, nor Safari in MacOS HS.
Mentioned it a few time but for clarity we havent touched mobile yet so the site will not function correctly at all there. We are working on stability and data first making sure nothings lost in migration and accessible. Font issues are easy to change as are most issues we just have a small team and were 2 days out on 10 days of likely work. Many issues you mention fb etc are the forum software. We dont want to hack into that to much straight away because 15 years of doing that is what made the previous platform a code mess unstable and insecure which is the reason for the update.
Im not sure what browser that issue is on bit we are working on chrome and firefox and are not experiencing that issue if you want to post details. Ios and opera haven’t been worked on yet so i dont suggest using them
As I mentioned above in my previous post, I am using Windows 7, the browser is Firefox - Quantum 62.0. which is currently up to date.
It may be that if you create a thread, you see this kind of behaviour…what ever it is. I don’t like it,
It’s pretty annoying and just another one of those things about this site which is completely unnecessary.
Can you link me to this thread.
Edit - replied to my own post…hummm that’s also weird…
Looking at your image on mobile at lunch didn’t realize it was this thread, but thanks
I have to agree.
The new forum appearance is extremely difficult to look at. If this is how it’s going to be, then I guess that’s another website I’ll be removing from my bookmarks list. I honestly don’t have the time or mental will power to try and “see through” bad designs like this where I have to actively focus on the content I’m trying to read, because the contrast or colors are just so whacky.
But hey, I guess that’s the cost of progress eh? Who cares as long as it’s flashy and modern.
Some negative feedback is interesting though not suprising to note font was an issue we ourselves were unhappy with but migration needed to happen in order to prevent old data from being corrupted so this issue was my fault for putting the priority on fixing font and other tweaks after launch.
I take full blame so just say Travis sucks not the developers I gave the order. At the end of the day the developers and the rest of my team have devoted time and money to making sure the site is able to stay stable and be upgraded. The old site software was obsolete and breaking.
For some users here used to production I am bit surprised at the lack of flexibility though I dont blame individuals unaware of the site condition and need to modernize to ruby on rails.
We are daily making fixes and upgrades visually as mentioned a few times. step one is securing content and links. Thankfully migration went fairly well for a site with millions of links with some hiccups that have been 80% completed in a day
On our budget fonts, spacing and visual issues would be more quickly resolved with a team of 30 not 3 so for us we need to use manpower where capable. That doesn’t mean we are done just we are preparing to work on it as a lower priorty
This week upcoming font and minor visual treatments will be updated if you have been following these feeds you can see active updates happening. Mobile was unusable a day ago, we still haven’t started development for it but at least now you can use the gallery and forums reasonably.
We apologize for the users that find these updates unacceptable. It is hard to pass judgment without understanding what kind of massive undertaking this is. I would say it’s been well established and that the team is doing their best if that doesn’t work for you we understand there are sites with bigger budgets l, more acceptable design, and larger teams, that dont have to deal with broken code multiple databases and 15 years of content to secure to serve you. It’s my hope that is enough of an explanation and sorry we weren’t able to help your needs
For others who have complaint or run into problems we are here working on it.
Your feedback is of great help especially when it comes constructively working towards a solution. while frustrating hopefully its nice to know we are devoted. We won’t always give exactly what you want but we are always interested in your feedback and suggestions. Our goal is to improve the experiance, more features, resources and organization… while this new platform may initially be less appealing the advantage it offers in enabling us to add features monthly like a downloadable database of scripts, plug ins, etc. Will make it worth the downtime to many i believe.
We didn’t just drop an update or patch and fade away we made a migration the only way possible under the circumstances and are 2 days in working away.
For those with the patience or voice offering help thanks so much! It really helps when we are putting all profits into improvements to hear some users are willing to stick it out and see what we are able to bring you and hopefully we get you a solid finished project soon. Getting to the font before work on more free features for you in the future.
First, thanks for stepping forward to address concerns.
Login is needed each time on Safari … yes emptied cache/cookies.
I have no problem with the font readability though black BG preferred
over gray. Other than that, I’ll continue to check in every couple days
or so … old habits are hard to break, lol.
Good luck with your remodeling.
Hello @Travis … do not listen anyone!
It’s nice modern forum!
Look at new modern forum from maxon developer team https://plugincafe.maxon.net
Thanks for the update Travis, I have a couple of questions and it probably one’s that are important to a lot of users who visit here and those are…
Will we be able to have the option of numbered pages, instead of the infinite scrolling system we have here now ?
Will there be an option to disable the round avatar images next to the thread topics and have a textual information bar of who last replied, and at what time as it was before instead ? From a visual attractiveness and practical viewpoint, it’s just useless clutter and un-informative beyond a certain number of posts in any case. I’ve never seen anything like it in 18 years of using forums.
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/\ - That’s all we need regarding threads.
I regularly post on other forums besides this CGtalk one , relating to music production… KVR for example provides clear information of threads and who’s posted as shown below. Also take note of the clear and easy to read font they use.
- The other thing is about signatures on here, I know that’s low on the priority list right now…but it was useful in helping others find out and discover what we as creative individuals are able to do and where people can find it besides give more meaningful profile’s of ourselves.
Your avatar looks great!
I’ll have them take a look at log in. It may be necessary for a stay logged in check box for Safari.
Sidenote is that we have to be recertified by FB for those that use log into fb. This shouldn’t take more than a few days.
We should have most issues cleared up by mid week next week as we are devoting all our time to it.
Font, font spacing, value,
General layout spacing
Are people happy with avatar size? Or do you feel they are to small?
There seems to be a delay when making edits of having the page update or having to refresh after hitting update to get it show. The software is turning the highlight color from blue to green blue. Minor issue but just so everyone understands that even these issues will be fixed.
The old red presented a lot of ui issues it also doesn’t compress well We tested things like subtle accent color as users tend to spend more time so having harsher colors can be harder on the eyes over time. Its pretty interesting how few colors work well. In general we found blue is almost always the choice online for social which appears obvious after you look at it. FB, twitter, linkedin, 60+% choose blue 17% green 7% red 2% yellow so we chose the blue. Our brand color is just black and white cgsociety logo so In a future update we would like to give users the ability to choose from a selection of fonts and colors to quickly customize the site for your own use. As far as a black background we chose to have a bit brighter background for multiple reasons one being the contrast affect on art the second is issues with monitors from older models to 5k models.
Most issues were tested and retested prior to launch but as noted before, we are actively editing live, anticipating issues, like this after migration still there are lots if things, even simple things like this that we are hyper aware and in process of changing
That forum burns my eyes out, it’s completely flat, too bright, sterile, and poorly designed despite the message font being a bit more readable than the font is here. This CGtalk forum currently has the polar opposite problem of the lack of colour used on the maxon one… however it does have more of a structured design and contrast with more shades and use of colour, in places where necessary. The never ending scrolling is comparable, something, which is a turn off for many I think use to the normal forum standards.
At the bottom of the page there is a box with page count number. If you click it you can jump to any part of the endless scroll or directly back to the top.
Stopping by netflix today but will post more later
I just tried it, seriously it’s bl***dy horrible, it’s so clunky…that wasn’t what I was looking for at all… you will drive everyone away from this site using that.
A bit off topic but related somewhat…
Typically I redesign software applications, design and redesign instrument concepts for software companies so they adopt the ideas I come up with. Propellerheads Reason was one redesign project I did in 2014. Three years later, Props released a new version with striking similarities…
I had touch such forum when i go to rhino forums. I like dark theme, navigation.