Great colouring David, this time you have nailed it man.
The Journey Begins Challenge (2D) Entry: David Revoy
All is in the picture , this error was noticed by Piccolo on another forum. Thanks to him to notice me and thank you in advance for helping me to resolve it.
If you have another idea than the one I propose, please give me them ! I’m open to a lot of solution.Thanks
Hey David, the different variations are all good, here are my thoughts.
1: This one makes that area feel a little distracting when you see it wrapping around the above building. This also might be the due to the color, but I didn’t have that happen when I looked at the other two proposed solutions.
2: I think this one is the most natural feeling solution. My only concern with it is that is cuts too much away from the cool rounded building.
3: This one has that humorous feel to it, I like it but at first glance it isn’t that obvious that the chimney is going through the house above the forge.
I like the second version out of all them though. :shrug: I will be looking forward to seeing where you decide to go, great looking updates man!
Matt
[Edit] Another possible solution would be to have a longer chimney extension coming out of the main part of the chimney.
http://www.bricksandbrass.co.uk/images/terms/chimney01.jpg
http://www.chim-kleen.com/Cleaning/Roof3.JPG
http://www.edu.dudley.gov.uk/teachandlearnresources/dudleycd/kngswnfd/chimney.jpg
Sort of like you have in the first solution but coming out of the actual chimney, it could be straight and it would be thinner than the second version. Maybe they build the house above the forge afterward and they needed to find a way to keep the smoke out. Just an after thought.
I like the second solution best. Makes more sense… The 3rd one makes it almost impossible to live in the litte “ball” house.
Very nice style you got going there!
hey David. I think I agree with Matt above for the solution. The first one feels a bit weird having it wrapping around the house. The second is the best but is blocking a lot of the house and the third you dont get it at first that is going through the house but when you do is not making any sense cause I’m imagining the inside of that place and I bet it will be a weird living situation!! LOL :D:D hehe… Anyway, what matt suggests about the extention i think it can work just fine. So you could try some sketches with that aproach and we will see how it looks like.
HI David
I’m going to have to go against the flow here; I agree that solution #2 makes the most logical sence, but it doesn’t fit the whimsical and organic nature of your house designs, or the image itself - it’s just too overbearing and linear when everything else is curves. So I think a variation on #1 is the way to go. Perhaps having it go underneath the ball house and up the far side out of sight- that way you don’t have that distracting curve on the front of the house. You’d just have the tip of the chimney peeking out from the far side of the upper house.
D’Arcy
Journey 2D: http://http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?threadid=324672
Well, if DArcy1 is “going against the flow,” I’m going extra against the flow: I don’t like ANY of the solutions! So I came up with one of my own. Hope you don’t mind:
What I was noticing is that the scale of the spheres is unclear: The only thing that ever really defines the scale is that one doorway… so it could be slightly alterred without affecting the rest of the pic. And without that ladder there, it pushes the sphere a little more back into the pic. So I shrunk the door and ladder, and moved the ladder to behind the blacksmith’s shop instead of in front of it. It also cleans up the part of the pic in front of the girl too. Anyhow, maybe you’ll find this helpful.
Good luck with this all. I especially laud your perseverence in making line-driven art, even though, as you say, “outlined art rarefully meet success on Cgchallenges, but I paint it firstly for myself and it’s the rendering I want.” Painting for yourself is the most important thing… and who knows, maybe we’ll get lucky!
-mike
Thanks for help, now I feel better. I will follow this post with a detailed answer to each one of you.
nice concept. Beutifully painted. My problem is that it’s initially unclear to me that the journey is beginning. I see it that the girl has just arrived at the village. Maybe the girl should be facing the camera like in the snail concept. Anyway, i like this one. Keep it up!
Hi David, it looks excellent. I like it. I’m agree with domclubb, maybe it looks like the end or middle of the journey, but not necesary.
Great work, keep going!
Wah trouvé ton thread! Kioule
in english:
I was laughing when I saw the chimney issue, lol, good solution you found there
It was really instructive to saw your wip, the first concept was really good, but this last one is really much better.
Some crit about this wip (sorry if someone already said this, I couldn’t really read all the thread -_- ): it’s really about the main character. I, in my humble opinion, thinks that she, as she’s begining a journey, could have some more details for a traveller, like a bag (where she could store her wallet, for instance, or some food). Her back could be a bit more worked, as her hair (plus “cheveux aux vents”) something to express a bit more dynamism, movment. I also would like to see a tiny bit more what’s on the right of the picture: the girl are a bit too much in the middle, if we could see a bit more where she’s going, maybe it would be best to express this beginning of a journey.
And … ça va tuer, ton dessin
rawwad Really great style, very nice colors and sweet atmosphere. Keep working friend!
Thanks Rawwad, Your work is terrific and excuse me to didn’t took time to let you a message in your thread since start, but be sure that I went often on it to watch and read. It’s good that you took your spaceship original idea. Your design are genious !
tuck I love your style really original and beautiful!
Thanks tuck !
Womball IMO is In my Opinion. Sorry abou that. Great details! That’s really amazing
Thanks, I learn something usefull IMO.
Ramitxon Great colouring David, this time you have nailed it man.
Thanks friend ! Let me excuse myself to not be as present in your thread as you are in mine, when I will finish my comic book I will have more time ( End of April )
DUBAIFX Love the watercolour feel.Good luck with it.
Thanks, It was made with digital watercolor of painter 9 ( I made them adv cause I really like this tool and I don’t regret to spend my money on it, as to’shop )
mmbenya Hey David, the different variations are all good, here are my thoughts.
1: This one makes that area feel a little distracting when you see it wrapping around the above building. This also might be the due to the color, but I didn’t have that happen when I looked at the other two proposed solutions.
2: I think this one is the most natural feeling solution. My only concern with it is that is cuts too much away from the cool rounded building.
3: This one has that humorous feel to it, I like it but at first glance it isn’t that obvious that the chimney is going through the house above the forge.
I like the second version out of all them though. I will be looking forward to seeing where you decide to go, great looking updates man!
Matt
[Edit] Another possible solution would be to have a longer chimney extension coming out of the main part of the chimney.
http://www.bricksandbrass.co.uk/ima…s/chimney01.jpg
http://www.chim-kleen.com/Cleaning/Roof3.JPG
http://www.edu.dudley.gov.uk/teacha…nfd/chimney.jpgSort of like you have in the first solution but coming out of the actual chimney, it could be straight and it would be thinner than the second version. Maybe they build the house above the forge afterward and they needed to find a way to keep the smoke out. Just an after thought.
Thanks for your really good advice, for the moment you will not see a chimney hat in my preview of resolving problem, but I will add one and your link are really appreciate. May be I will invent one in Dragon head. Could look epik and good.
Tyrus88 I like the second solution best. Makes more sense… The 3rd one makes it almost impossible to live in the litte “ball” house.
Very nice style you got going there!
Yes; I agree with your sentence on the third solution. Thanks !
Loris_ hey David. I think I agree with Matt above for the solution. The first one feels a bit weird having it wrapping around the house. The second is the best but is blocking a lot of the house and the third you dont get it at first that is going through the house but when you do is not making any sense cause I’m imagining the inside of that place and I bet it will be a weird living situation!! LOL hehe… Anyway, what matt suggests about the extention i think it can work just fine. So you could try some sketches with that aproach and we will see how it looks like.
Yes I think too, Matt give me a really good advice. Thanks to take time to read the entire processus of my thread. Thanks again.
DArcy1 HI David I’m going to have to go against the flow here; I agree that solution #2 makes the most logical sence, but it doesn’t fit the whimsical and organic nature of your house designs, or the image itself - it’s just too overbearing and linear when everything else is curves. So I think a variation on #1 is the way to go. Perhaps having it go underneath the ball house and up the far side out of sight- that way you don’t have that distracting curve on the front of the house. You’d just have the tip of the chimney peeking out from the far side of the upper house.
D’Arcy
Thanks Darcy1 for your opinion, you was’nt alone to think that a special customisation of the first solution could be best, but it was too destructive for the general composition to add this big line from the forging mill to the sky, so I prefered to do another possibilities, I hope you will not annoying with my final choice.
walrus Well, if DArcy1 is “going against the flow,” I’m going extra against the flow: I don’t like ANY of the solutions! So I came up with one of my own. Hope you don’t mind:
What I was noticing is that the scale of the spheres is unclear: The only thing that ever really defines the scale is that one doorway… so it could be slightly alterred without affecting the rest of the pic. And without that ladder there, it pushes the sphere a little more back into the pic. So I shrunk the door and ladder, and moved the ladder to behind the blacksmith’s shop instead of in front of it. It also cleans up the part of the pic in front of the girl too. Anyhow, maybe you’ll find this helpful.Good luck with this all. I especially laud your perseverence in making line-driven art, even though, as you say, “outlined art rarefully meet success on Cgchallenges, but I paint it firstly for myself and it’s the rendering I want.” Painting for yourself is the most important thing… and who knows, maybe we’ll get lucky!
Heu ? It’s my birthday ? … Thanks Walrus to help me with this method. It’s unbelievable as I’m happy to receive a part of your help with this way. ( for me it’s like an “autographe” from one of my idol ). You count for me as the cream of reference on the Cgcommunity, so you guess that I follow like a little soldier your advice, with no comment.
You will understand that it’s difficult for me to post on your thread, cause I so like your work that I don’t know what to write. But be sure I follow each step of your thread, that’s why I had the idea of asking with different proposition as you do. Now, I realise that is the best invitation to be helped and Thanks thanks thanks again to encourage my outlined work ! I wish you will style keep your comics good motion and line on your art too.
domclubb nice concept. Beutifully painted. My problem is that it’s initially unclear to me that the journey is beginning. I see it that the girl has just arrived at the village. Maybe the girl should be facing the camera like in the snail concept. Anyway, i like this one. Keep it up!
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snowan Hi David, it looks excellent. I like it. I’m agree with domclubb, maybe it looks like the end or middle of the journey, but not necesary.
Great work, keep going!
Thanks for this advice domclubb and snowan, your post give me idea ; a way to correct this problem by may be adding another main part of this picture. I hope you will be present to let me know what you think about when I will make it. But for the moement , I prefer keep this changing idea in my head.
MDN67 I like your style of draw, very good pic
Thaaaanks !
Jori Wah trouvé ton thread! Kioulein english:
I was laughing when I saw the chimney issue, lol, good solution you found there
It was really instructive to saw your wip, the first concept was really good, but this last one is really much better.
Some crit about this wip (sorry if someone already said this, I couldn’t really read all the thread -_- ): it’s really about the main character. I, in my humble opinion, thinks that she, as she’s begining a journey, could have some more details for a traveller, like a bag (where she could store her wallet, for instance, or some food). Her back could be a bit more worked, as her hair (plus “cheveux aux vents”) something to express a bit more dynamism, movment. I also would like to see a tiny bit more what’s on the right of the picture: the girl are a bit too much in the middle, if we could see a bit more where she’s going, maybe it would be best to express this beginning of a journey.
And … ça va tuer, ton dessin
Hi Jori, it’s a pleasure to welcome you on my challenge thread. I will make a change on the main character it’s sure. A lot of poeple think like you and need to see a character who start the journey. I will say in french the way I will make evolve this illustration to hide to other participant this new way cause I’m not really sure to have the talent to realise it : Je vais surement ajouter un nouveau personnage à la composition, celui ci risque d’être un petit personnage tout exité et plein d’entrain courant vers l’observateur du fond de l’image. Chargé d’un grand sac. Ceci chagera pour sur l’illustration mais me remettra sur les railles du sujet. Aussi j’ai fait un clin d’oeil à ton illustration de la grande bataille, le motif de poterie sur ta voile, je le replace au dessus de l’échope du potier sur mon image. That’s all ! Thanks to post here, and keep your great style. Thanks.
For anyone here, I make advertissment to go to watch the portfolio of Jori ^here^ it’s really beautifull and a good color therapy for the eyes.
What initially happened to the snail concept anyways? I so love that Idea! This one is good But I think that would have been better!
Hi all
I followed all of advices to resolve the problem of the ‘girl from back as main character = no expression >> not answer a lot to the challenge’ with the addition of a little character very expressive, and is ‘fire tiny/little/cute dog’. For them the journey begin, and they are happy to do it.
What do you think of this modification ?
Thanks ~~~ - David