IMHO, these are fantastic responses. I’m thankful that many of the Lightwave heavyweights have also chosen to weigh in with their perspective. People are putting a lot of thought into their message and I’m enlightened that much more each time I scroll down and read every one.
Great stuff. Really great stuff.
:airguitar
I have just as much right to use LW and to come here as anyone. Just because my lips aren’t buried in Newtek’s ass like some ppl., doesn’t mean I don’t like LW. GET REAL LW is just a program. I’m tired of seeing these losers treat it as some sort of religion, which results in flame wars when someone doesn’t praise their all mighty god.
GET A LIFE, PPL. IT’LL DO YOU GOOD. 
Originally posted by CIM
[B]I have just as much right to use LW and to come here as anyone. Just because my lips aren’t buried in Newtek’s ass like some ppl., doesn’t mean I don’t like LW. GET REAL LW is just a program. I’m tired of seeing these losers treat it as some sort of religion, which results in flame wars when someone doesn’t praise their all mighty god.GET A LIFE, PPL. IT’LL DO YOU GOOD.
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No green kiss today ??? 
Originally posted by CIM
[B]I have just as much right to use LW and to come here as anyone. Just because my lips aren’t buried in Newtek’s ass like some ppl., doesn’t mean I don’t like LW. GET REAL LW is just a program. I’m tired of seeing these losers treat it as some sort of religion, which results in flame wars when someone doesn’t praise their all mighty god.GET A LIFE, PPL. IT’LL DO YOU GOOD.
Give it a rest CIM…no one will feel sorry for you. You rarely provide anything constructive to the community and I’m just calling you on it.
I think it’s time you examine your purpose on these boards and determine what is important to you…being someone who people look to for advice and suggestions, or the resident curmudgeon everyone gets annoyed with. You bore me like you wouldn’t believe and I’m just tired of reading your verbal garbage…I don’t care if you bag on NewTek or LightWave or my grandmother, but come on man…if you hate it so much and never provide an ounce of constructive criticism how do you expect to be taken seriously by people.
I’m all for people stating their opinions on matters which are important to them…I take the bad with the good like any sensible person, but your verbal scat flinging is really something this forum, and any forum can do without.
Thanks for letting me vent. I feel much better. Take it how you will…but I think I know how you will.
:love: :wavey:
You rarely provide anything constructive to the community and I’m just calling you on it.
Well, that’s better than most ppl. here that just take from the community.
Originally posted by policarpo
[B]Give it a rest CIM…no one will feel sorry for you. You rarely provide anything constructive to the community and I’m just calling you on it.[/B]
I haven’t used Lightwave in a few years and even I can think of 3 lscripts off the top of my head that CIM has written. FastIK, a UV stitcher and a progressive save for modeler. To say he has never given anything constructive to the LW community is totally false.
Originally posted by Leigh
Hey guys, there is no need to start flaming here.
You’re right Leigh.
But you know how it is…a person can grate on your nerves for only so long before you have to confront that person and let them know what is what.
I know that CIM’s personal mission in life is to cause mayhem and distruption…and as much as I respect a these type of acts, sometimes they are just too much. They lack focus and any real purpose.
I’m not asking that we all be nice and sweet, but I am asking for some rational behaviour from time to time…I mean…that’s what being human is about. Bang your drums loudly…but have a purpose that is about growth, change and progress.
Anyway…i’ve turned off my ability to read anything by CIM…so I’ll be in the dark about anything he has to mutter and bitch about from here on out.
If you can’t change a person you can at least shut them out of your life.
Originally posted by Lyr
I haven’t used Lightwave in a few years and even I can think of 3 lscripts off the top of my head that CIM has written. FastIK, a UV stitcher and a progressive save for modeler. To say he has never given anything constructive to the LW community is totally false.
That’s true…i’ll give him that. Fast IK rocks!:buttrock:
If the quality of this thread does not improve in the next few posts, it’s going to go byebye.
CIM’s just good for a laugh. The secret is to not take anything here seriously.
War in Iraq = serious
CIM bitching = hilarious
Say something rude CIM! Your posts are getting boring!
I think invader CIM has a sense of humor. :twisted: He seemed to take the April Fool’s day thread about his short term employment with Newtek pretty well. 
I guess I’m used to seeing his contrarian views about Newtek posted here. Not a big deal really.:shrug:
Originally posted by policarpo
That’s true…i’ll give him that. Fast IK rocks!:buttrock:
It’s funny. First you bash him for not providing anything useful and would pack his bags for him if he would leave. Oh, you use one if his scripts and says it rocks. Pretty opportunistic. On principle, maybe you shouldn’t use the script, don’t you think?
I’m all for people expressing their oppinion, but often in a lesser way than the "why don’t you get the f*ck out kind of way Policarpo.
I indeed think you’re taking it too seriously. LW is a tool, a good at that, but definately not perfect, and definately frustrating…just ask the Mac users, because they haven’t been treated equal from Newtek. Would you still have the same views if you were on a Mac?
Originally posted by private
[B]It’s funny. First you bash him for not providing anything useful and would pack his bags for him if he would leave. Oh, you use one if his scripts and says it rocks. Pretty opportunistic. On principle, maybe you shouldn’t use the script, don’t you think?I’m all for people expressing their oppinion, but often in a lesser way than the "why don’t you get the f*ck out kind of way Policarpo.
I indeed think you’re taking it too seriously. LW is a tool, a good at that, but definately not perfect, and definately frustrating…just ask the Mac users, because they haven’t been treated equal from Newtek. Would you still have the same views if you were on a Mac? [/B]
Cool…i’ll give you that. But in all honesty I don’t use FastIK or any IK for that matter since I’m not a character animator. I am horrible at rigging and don’t have the patience for it ya know. My primary function with LightWave is for print work, and the occasional UI and logo animation. I would love to develop my character animation skills, but I know people who are far better than me at it…and I think it’s sensible to lean on people’s strengths to make the best use of talent on projects. Why hire a dentist to set a broken leg?
I’ve said what I’ve had to say on the matter. I’m off my hobby horse and CIMian bashing…
And for what it is worth…I use LightWave on the PC and on the Mac under OSX, so I’ve seen it on both sides of the fence…but I am pretty nimble and when I hit a wall on the Mac I move to the PC to alleviate any frustration. I believe in using tools which help to get the job done quickly, efficiently and without too much pain. Why suffer on any platform?
I don’t know…say what you will, but I think life and creativity is about solving problems and not being burdened with what you are given. It’s up to each individual to remove the shackles which bind them and keep them from realizing their true potential as artists and human beings.
Ciao!
Hello
I think this thread and users bashing each other has just gone out of control. Really…
You know it is never what is being said, but the way it is being said that is a problem. Cim, you should really try to improve your way of talking to people and the way you say things. It will make it a lot easier for people to accept your points. But starting litterally dozens of threads all over the web, where you complain on how much LW sucks, is not going to be helpfull at all. If you happened to just say: “Hey, I just noticed that this could be improved by adding that, or changing that.” People would be more likely to agree with you.
But just saying," LightWaves renderer sucks, or Lightwaves animation- tools suck", is not very onstructive and it is not true at all. But if you happened to say: “hmm one could make it a bit faster here and there or add this feature and that, because it would be helpfull because of that”. I am sure many people will agree with you…
I can understand emotions going high because of that, like Policarpo’s.
So and now just all shake hands and be friendly again, ok?
CU
Elmar
Originally posted by private
I’m all for people expressing their oppinion, but often in a lesser way than the "why don’t you get the f*ck out kind of way Policarpo.
Actually, I prefer the “I’ve got a squirrel in my ass!!” method that CIM uses.
I’ve recently had an epiphany. On internet forums:
No ones opinion matters at all.
Yet everyone wants to give their opinion.
Wgreenlee1, thats exactly what I wanted to stop wiht my last post…
I am sure Cim is not a bad guy(he is a LWer how can he be a bad guy?). He just has a very bad way of communicating with people…
Once he manages to express his opinions in a less offensive way, people will love to go on beer with him right? (anyone who dares to contradict me now, will be beaten until death 
)
And now lets group- hug and then get back to animating, ok?
CU
Elmar