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#81

Mr. Mu <> Your words are kind <> will try to get more tuts on the Bone soon.

Reflectedlight <> Sure Glen is a very good teacher <> his Mentor Harry Carmean fascinates me even more <> the Hale Videos and books are superb except the book Anatomy Lessons from the Great Masters which is a little lame, as I understand it Hale had very little to do with the last book. I have viewed his lectures on video a few times (once is never enough for the good stuff, at least not for me) I had the opportunity to attend a couple of his lectures at The League unfortunately I was young and did not realize what a great opportunity I had and did not continue going <> Damn.

Default.rol <> Working on more which I will post soon <> hope they will give a unique approach to some ageless problems.

Spirit Dreamer <> Thanks for feeding the Monkey <> he eats a lot LOL

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Small update <> wanted to get something up on this new page <> how you enjoy my meandering on the creative journey>>>>>>>>

#82

WOW…:thumbsup:
i can not close my mouth… beautiful drawing.

thanks for sharing your great knowledge.

YOU ARE THE GREAT TEACHER. SIR.

best
sturm

#83

Hey

Thanks for the reply regarding the Vilppu stuff- I will have to look up Carmean and see what his stuff looks like.

I have Hales “Master class in figure drawing” and was very impressed by it - havent read it properly tho… will do in time… and need to pick up anatomy lessons also. Its a pity to hear that you didnt attend more of the hale lectures - but hey - at least you got to go to some in the first place - and I assume that the videos are similar to his classroom teachings??

I have another question if i may?

I was wondering if people like vilppu, bridgeman, hale - is what they teach, as an approach to figure drawing - is this a classical approach to figure drawing as apposed to what tony ryders book shows, IE not really thinking about the figures masses and copying contours and shadow masses - is this what we would call an academic approach??

Do you use a bit of both eventually??

are you still making your own dvds??

#84

Tre Grazie ( Itl. Three Graces) <> as many of you know I have done numerous painting on the power of three.

NO REFERENCE

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Thanks Sturmkin and Reflectedfight

Reflected <> you have a pretty good handle on it <> Classical by my definition relates to the methods of drawing practiced in the Quattrocento until the Academies gradually switched the emphasis from working from knowledge of subject to working from the subject alone.

The Classical relies on knowledge first and the subject second <> Academic is just the reverse

The real answer to your question is that nearly everyone does some of both regardless how much they profess to one method.

Neither is better <> it is really what works best for you and what you want to accomplish with your art <> if you want to work long hours coping directly from nature and take what it gives you, it certainly has a lot to give, then the academic approach may be right for you. If you like the freedom to work without the model or to change what the model is doing or do a 15 second gesture and finish it later as Michelangelo and Raphael did then the Classical approach will be more appealing.

There is no debate here <> Anatomy Lessons by Hale is not a very good book (he had very little to do with it. <> Look for his Drawing Lessons by the Great Masters

#85

Thanks for the reply - really - it helps to clarify my thoughts so much - it helps to hear from someone such as yourself (who obviously has a load of milage, talent and knowledge under thier belt) that my thoughts on it werent way off target. Thanks so much.

And sorry - i totally didnt mean to write “anatomy lessons” - I meant to write “Drawing lessons” - just so you know that I did read your reply about the hale stuff earlier. Its my stupid hands at it again… I will need to pick up drawing lessons at the library or amazon at some point.

Again - thanks very much for the help and information - appreciate it.

thanks

gavin

#86

A couple of pages of no ref. constructions <> looking at some block-in considerations.

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#87

Great work, Michael! :applause:

So, umm…are we going to see your Assignment sometime today? :smiley:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#88

Going to the studio and work on it a little more and take a couple of shots to post.

Hope you will like it.

#89

Sounds great! :thumbsup: Wouldn’t want our famous Dr. B to be delinquent, lol! :scream:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#90

Oil sketch on panel <> more to come!

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#91

Michael,

Cool to see your painting! :slight_smile: What are your main artistic inspirations painting~wise?

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rk

#92

CU of WIP

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A large pastel from my Tre Grazie series

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#93

Hi…Dr Bone…:slight_smile:

INTENSE STARE THERE…really like the planes of the forhead…NIICCCCEEEEEE…:thumbsup:
Pastel work …outstanding…along with figures…looks great.
REAL pleasure seeing your work.
And YES, I have a whole frig and pantry full of treats for the monkey…just hope that he
does not bite…too often …LOL!!..:scream: :slight_smile:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

#94

Studies of larger works <> these are about 3 x 4 feet

Pastel on paper

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Mixed media (oil washes and pastel on panel)

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SpiritDreamer <> thanks so much for checking in and checking it out

#95

lovely pastel work… nothing to say more… just admire…

#96

strumkim <> much thanks

Here are some thumbnail hand studies from the workshop assignments

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#97

Hi…Doctor Bone…:slight_smile:

I was just about to tell you that I really liked the ballance and composition in that panel
with three female figures above…but I guess that I am too late…just saw that you narrowed
it down to two figures…oh well…LOL
Really like those touches of cool turquoise in the second panel…:bounce:
That hands study…FANTASTIC…like the movement created…:thumbsup:
Pleasure seeing these

TAKE CARE
Glenn

#98

Big mixed media Drawings

3 X 4 feet conte, chalk and oil washes on panel

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there will be more of these want to see where they go

Thanks for droping by SpiritDreamer <> yah I liked the composition of the three figures in the last post just didn’t like the first figure.

#99

Very cool, Dr. B. :thumbsup: This is one of my favorite pieces of yours by far. :slight_smile:

BTW, you might consider putting together a CGPortfolio:

http://portfolio.cgsociety.org/

If you join CGSociety, you can upload an unlimited amount of images ~ which you would certainly need. :smiley: It would be a great way to see your work all together. It’s quite cool, as you basically get your own domain based on your user name. I don’t know if you’ve checked it out before, but I think it’s definitely worthwhile! :slight_smile:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

#100

Will check out CGS looked at it a little but did not really grasp it all <> seems pretty neat <> I think you and I am on the same page with the drawing painting thing <> I hate to lose the energy an movement and of course the emotion that drawings have vs. painting that head into a more refined area <> I think maybe I am not a very refined guy <>