Stupid, simple questions


#1

Hi,
I got my copy of Messiah this week. (wish it didn’t have a dongle).:sad:

Looks good, but what a strange interface.

I’ve imported a model from Modo, and done a very simple camera animation as a sort of fly through. It works fine and was easy enough to do, but how do I save the resultant movie? All I can do is view it as a preview.

Can I save in different formats? Avi? Mpg? etc.?

Whereabouts in the help file will it tell me the answers to these simple, stupid questions?


#2

Welcome to the community!

You can find rendering settings here:

Render tab: output and you’ll see various options for how to render and what to render, etc.
Oh and you’ll find this information in the help file in the render tab section.

Brian


#3

Thanks for that.

The Render Tab was the first place I went to, but I can’t see anything that says:“Enter the name of the output file:” or “Do you want an avi or an mpg file or whatever…”. I can see that I can choose an RLA file (whatever that is) or individual still images in different formats.

Am I being a bit simplistic? I’ve produced movie files in lots of other applications and they all have the same sort of approach to this.

I can do the render, it appears frame by frame in a separate window, it seems to have exactly what I expected, but when it finishes what do I do with it? I can’t even replay it.


#4

Did you check the manual section I directed you too?


#5

Hi Beady,

Welcome to the community.

I think this is what your after:

you can also use right mouse button on play tab for quick access.

Also, right mouse on ‘file’ tab to access docs.

hope it helps?

R


#6

Yes thank you, I saw that.

I had foolishly assumed that I would be able to output to a movie format instead of a sequential series of stills that I would then need to assemble in some other software.

That’s not a big problem, but won’t that make it difficult when I come to include synchronised sounds?


#7

Thank you Rush, that is exactly what I was looking for. However it raises another question. Why can I not see AVI in the list of file types?

I can see bmp, tiff, sgi, psd, sun and a host of others, but not a single one that I recognise as a movie format. Specifically there is no avi.


#8

:bounce:I was going a bit too deep. Sorry :slight_smile: The settings I showed you are for final output and where you can control the outputs.

And the info on what Rush showed you is in the help file, located in Interface: Play tab: Animation Preview


#9

Thank you Rush, that is exactly what I was looking for. However it raises another question. Why can I not see AVI in the list of file types?

In the screenshot you can see AVI.


#10

Thanks for taking the time to answer these elementary questions.

I can see the AVI in the screen shot. The problem was that I was looking in my Render tab, where I do not see AVI as an option.

Does this mean that I can only produce AVI’s which are recordings of the preview window? I assume (hope) that I can play with the settings to get better quality than that.


#11

In short. You can only use avi for animation preview. For rendered output you have to use image seqs, while this might seem clumsy at first, it´s actually a good habit, since a crash won´t destroy your already rendered frames. If you don´t own a compositor like After Effects or Shake, or a NLE like Finalcut, Avid or Premiere. My recomendation would be quicktime pro for 30usd, to preview and renderout your image seqs to a movie format.


#12

I see, thank you for clarifying that. I can composite, so that’s not a big problem, just another hurdle to jump through.

Would have been nice to have seen something to that effect before I bought it.

Plus, I hate dongles. Did I say that before?


#13

If the rest of the world were honest, we’d need no dongles.

If the rest of the world were truthful, we would need no contracts and treaties.

If the rest of the world were rational and had peace in their hearts, we would need no police or armies.

Best,
Rick


#14

You are of course correct, but I have lots of other, much more expensive software on my laptop that doesn’t make me worry about breaking something off the motherboard if I move it.

The only people who need not worry about this issue are those who have an illicit copy from which the dongle protection has been removed. As usual the honest users are the ones who get the problems.


#15

Very good points.


#16

You raise a good counterpoint.

Perhaps what should happen is that when you buy a legal copy, there is some embedded serial number, so that an illegal copy could be traced…if anyone were ever caught with one. Then you fine the user and the first owner who let it be copied.

I think your point is valid, in that someone will get an illegal copy somehow, if they have no character. So why not find a way to encode each personalized version?

And, of course, I understand totally how a company has the desire and right to make the attempt to profit from their software by fnding some way to stop the pirating. However, I think the truth is that there is probably some illegal copy of every software at this point.
Punishing the leagl users by having some dongle may have seen it’s true usefullness.

Best,
Rick


#17

I know of several people who have legitimate copies of Lightwave (which requires a dongle) but who also have ‘cracked’ versions on hand so that if the dongle fails they will not be deprived of the ability to use their, paid for software.

I would assume that there are people in the Messiah world with the same approach.


#18

No matter the reasons its not an ethical practice. If the software vanished from existence and disappeared, then perhaps I could see it. Even then you are walking on a thin line. Its because people pirate the software that we need dongles, etc.


#19

You misunderstand.

I personally do not have any pirated software of any form.

I am aware of several very reputable companies who could not afford the possibility of being without the software that they depend upon, just because of the failure (or even loss) of a small piece of plastic and electronics.

Macromedia/Adobe software costing several thousand dollars (Authorware, Director, DW Studio etc.)does not need a dongle. MS Office costing several hundred does not. Modo does not, I could go on.

How do these companies manage to protect their investment. I have never heard of any software that was not pirated.

Dongles do not deter pirates. They only penalise those of us who pay for the software.

To be honest, if I’d known in advance that it needed a dongle I would not have bought Messiah.

I stopped dealing with companies that don’t trust me several years ago.


#20

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