Sketchbook Thread of Johan Derycke


#1581

Mu, Cisc0
The reason why these thumbs look beautiful is not because I drew them, but because John Stobart’s paintings, of which these thumbnails are quick notes, are so well composed. It is here that Loomis’ theories on values are proven to be true. I am beginning to realize that there is much power in his words; “If the design doesn’t work, you can paint all you want to, but your final product won’t work”.
The importance of thumbnailing is beginning to come clear to me.

On a different note, I was painting in color again this weekend.
I was reading [this book by Helen van Wyk](http://www.amazon.com/Color-Mixing-Van-Wyk-Way/dp/0929552180/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1266222699&sr=1-5)(my god, I named her van Dyk here and there, I'm so ashamed) on mixing color and she has a really interesting approach. Also some of her thoughts on painting are quite striking and putting me with both feet on the ground. 

Some of my favourites:
Beginners should stop wanting to paint reality. One can only paint an interpretation of one's reality.
There are 4 questions that need to be asked constantly when mixing colors:

[ol]
[li]What’s the basic hue of the subject? The answer is always one of the following 6: yellow, orange, red, violet, blue or green.[/li][li]What’s the value of the color? Answer: light, middle or dark value in comparison to it’s environment[/li][li]How intense is the color? Is it very saturated, middle or low saturated?[/li][li]What’s the color’s temperature? Is it a warm or a cool tint?[/li][/ol]

Showing this still life I painted this weekend in acrylics on canvas.
I started off well by making a pencil sketch and rearranging the fruit until I was satisfied with the composition. Then I made an underpainting with only white and black. I got into trouble right away when painting the colors and it took me more than 3 hours to do that, because I was following my gut and not thinking about the 4 questions I just wrote above:

[ol]
[li]I saw the wrong colors.[/li][li]I did not paint the background “in” the subjects", which is why my edges are screwed.[/li][li]I didn’t think about the value of the colors I was mixing, which is why the forms are screwed here and there.[/li][li]I didn’t think about saturation, which is why some parts look dull and others look oversaturated.[/li][li]I didn’t think about color temperature, which is why my shadows are totally screwed.[/li][li]I didn’t thnk about the light and it’s influence on the forms, which is why the core shadows are screwed.[/li][li]I instantly was in trouble because I did not think enough about what colors I want to create and what colors I need to mix them. I must learn the color wheel inside out, as for now I’m not making too much of it.[/li][/ol]I’m assuming that I will be making these mistakes a hundred times more. If there is anything I overlooked, even though I’m doing much better at critisizing myself than I’d expected, please let me know. I will try to remember for the next painting. :smiley:


#1582

Well… I probably don’t know nothing about using colours (I always go by feeling :banghead: ), but I will fix this soon (I still have ALL to do). The only little thing that I can say to you is to write those rules on a big sheet of paper and hang it in front of your painting position… or near it. Are there “only” those rules to know? Well done: practice and practice and practice and practice… I can’t tell more :blush:


#1583

oh no, you pretty much summed it all up…:smiley:

I do think, however, that the same “you” would have done a much better job in digital. Because for me, figuring out hue, saturation and value (and temperature which is indeed a great reminder) is only one part of the job.
With oils, e.g., I could never get the right colour, because I couldn’t figure out how to properly desaturate the full pigment blast I got out of the tube.
Or I would mix in titanium white for getting the right value, but the white pushed the colour temperature over to cool at the same time which drove me mad (I got myself a different kind of white which is said to be better suited for glazing and not shifting the temperature too much…)

Now, in digital I have my HSV sliders and just adjust each aspect the way I want it.

Not that my digital colour pieces look actually right…:smiley:


#1584

Cisc0
Heh yeah this is just the beginning of a long journey into a whole new world for me :slight_smile:
I do think the 4 years of concentrating on learning to draw without focusing on color was a good choice, however, I shouldn’t forget about values now that I’m into colors.
Thanks for the encouraging words mate!

Mu
Desaturating can be done by mixing your color with grey (out of white + black). You can mix a grey with the same value of your color and then mix those. The more grey, the less saturation.
Use Ivory Black only because it’s the most neutral black there is.
About temperature, I think if you mix any warm color with white it will become less warm, simply because it will become less saturated with warm pigment, and any cool color will become less cool when mixed with white for the same reason.

Digital color is indeed much more convenient to work with if it comes to mixing colors. However, there are some issues there as well.
Here’s a portrait from imagination that I painted last night (which I wasn’t going to show at first) using Oils and Palette Knife in Painter.
I am trying to paint like I paint traditionally in Painter, meaning at 100% opacity and mixing colors in the Mixer Palette and starting with colors like “Yellow Ocre” etc from the default Painter Color Set.
These basic colors are far too saturated. That is a major issue. Also, the colors don’t always seem to get the desired result when mixed together. For intsance, when I mix red and green, I should get a neutral brown/grey, but I get a very saturated orange instead that looks like the raw umber color from the painter color set. When mixing skintones using the Zorn palette, I had to use the saturation slider every time and desaturate the colors a lot. I guess I will have to develop a different mixing behaviour when painting digitally. It’s only now that I am beginning to realize that there is a huge difference between traditional color and digital color.


#1585

Thanks for the explanation.

About temperature, I think if you mix any warm color with white it will become less warm, simply because it will become less saturated with warm pigment, and any cool color will become less cool when mixed with white for the same reason.

Then how do you get, e.g. a high value warm colour in oil?

I must say that I had much less trouble getting the colours I needed in watercolor. I did a mastercopy only using red blue and yellow. Everything else I mixed. When I mixed complementary colours I could easily desaturate without the use of a grey colour at all. Same goes for darkening. The drawback is that you have to work from light to dark.

*sigh


#1586

Hm… good question. I guess you have to start from a high value pigment. As from september, I’ll be learning all about oil painting (allthough this applies to acrylics and gouache as well) and I’m sure it will come up sooner or later in class. I’ll let you know my findings then. :wink:

Here’s a tattoo design I created for a friend of mine a while ago.
She wants me to put a butterfly in this somewhere but to be honest I’ve not a clue where I should put it to avoid the balance being destroyed.
EDIT: Actually, I managed to add a butterfly quite easily :smiley:

Created in Painter using the Caligraphic Flat brush, after I made several designs in pencil on paper.


#1587

Here’s another tattoo design, one that didn’t get approved, but I still like it


#1588

Some quick life drawing I just did while the kids were watching tv.
Note to self: don’t draw in the dark, you can’t see shit.

My Win7 RC will expire soon.
I might not upload things for a while… will see how reinstalling the retail and restoring goes…


#1589

You do some mean figure studies dude! I would suggest trying to be more getsural and simplifying the forms, so that you can work quicker. Burne Hogarth helps a lot with that.

Thanks for stopping by my sb!


#1590

:wavey: Hi …Johan…:slight_smile:

I like the direction your going in with those little composition thumbnail studies…:thumbsup:
A good habit to get into, is to make yourself a couple of little pocket sized carboard picture matts…one with about a 4 by 6 inch rectangle opening to look through, or whatever size will fit in your bak pocket…should have a 2 inch border to block out the outside of composition elements not needed or wanted in the composition…and another one with a circle or maybe even an oval cut out…The idea is to carry them at all times, like your wallet,…then when you see something that interest you, you just hold the matt out in front of the scene, and compose what’s inside of the little window that your looking through.
It’s a tried and proven method used by alot of the old and new masters, and is a great way to train your eye for good composition…:slight_smile: …Just thought I would mention it, just in case you were not aware of it…:slight_smile:
TAKE CARE…Johan
Glenn


#1591

isso09
Thanks mate. Still loads of room for improvement though :wink:

Glenn
Hey thanks for visiting!
And yes, Loomis said this as well in his book “Creative Illustration”, so I had made one of them mini windows in cardboard and I was walking around the house with it already but not finding too many interesting compositions. I’ll try to remember and take it with me when I leave the house. :slight_smile:

I came across www.Paintmap.com
Everyone that loves looking at plein air landscape paintings MUST check out that website!

Here’s some exercises in ink as Mu suggested.
Did these with a Fabre Castell Pitt Artist pen, which has a brush tip. It’s not as good as it sounds though. I’m not too fond of it, but I don’t have ink yet… will see if I can buy some soon.

I should do a thousand more of these sheets because I suck at inking


#1592

cool work Johan! I like this type of rendering… it’s very funny to do in my opinion


#1593

I think your stuff is competent, but could be improved more by a change in your mindset, rather than giving you technical advice.

Work like you’re already a master. This level of confidence will translate into the strokes and marks that you make. If everything you do is filled will self-doubt and hesitation, that will show. Conversely, if you try and make marks like you’re Michael Jordan, going up for a dunk, that will also show.

Good luck!


#1594

Hey Johan,

Wonderful job on those pencil tonal sketches on the last page! They are simple, but very effective I think.

For the two tone exercises, I like the ones that you simplified the features instead of defining them with lines, like the bottom left one. I think what will help is trying not to think that you are drawing individual features. Don’t think, I am drawing an eye, this is a nose, etc., but instead try to see the planes underneath. Much easier said than done, lol. Maybe start with a small size where you couldn’t possibly add all the little details? Like the faces in the background Mu talked about.


#1595

Hi Johan!
I haven’t been here for a while so it’s been a nice journey for me to go through your sketchbook! It’s very inspirational to see how dedicated you are and to see that reflect in your work :smiley:
I’m not in any place to give crits or whatever, however I do feel like your pen studies seem more confident than your pencil studies?
The pen studies seriously blew me away man :smiley: :smiley:


#1596

Francesco Thanks. Yes, still practicing to get more control of this medium
PixelColada I’ve been thinking a lot about what you said. I’ve also been reading a lot lately, one of the books being Alla Prima by Richard Schmid. He too speaks of confidence and how it is reflected in our work. Your comment has started something inside my head… something that makes me approach my paper different from before when I start drawing. So thanks for the sound advice… I’m gonna kick ass now LOL
Wes I am making progress now. You will see in the drawings I am posting below, that I am trying to see the shapes, rather than the forms. I am deiliberately trying NOT to think while drawing. If I do think it is in terms of shape, tone and edge rather than anatomical features. I am hoping this way the knowledge on anatomy I’ve gathered will help me to put the correct shapes, tones and edges on paper. This is the step up I am trying to make since a while now. I hope it is starting to show in my drawings.
Thanks for the feedback mate, always appreciated!
Lili Thanks for dropping by! Keep us posted of your progress =)

Unfortunately, my longer charcoal/pastel studies are all on the large sized paper I am keeping in my drawer at the academy. I will be able to show them after the jury has seen them, so probably in june or so.
Here are some of my recent quick studies in various media:

Vine Charcoal on A3

Black Marker on A3

Pencil on A3


#1597

More life drawing…

1 minute poses, Bistre on A3 with a brush







#1598

Wow, all of these look very confident and show a much better… flow(?) that your previous work with the first posted study in 1596 being quite the eye-opener!


#1599

Hey Johan, the ink studies are fantastic! I also like the charcoals. These posts show that something is really changing. Keep up improving :smiley:


#1600

Thanks guys! I’m really enjoying these life drawing sessions and I will surely miss then once I switch to painting class (no living models the first 2 years).



edit: is it just me or is the CSS of the forum seriously screwed up since “the new version” is up?