I’ve been a Lightwave purist for years and love the application to death, I take the good with the bad. And I realize that people make the argument it’s just an app yada yada and its all about the artist but actually I have issues with that. Some times it is all about the app and in the case of celshading / toon-shading and inklines it seems the Newtek either doesn’t have the time to address their dinosaur plugins or even care about this feature of the application. I know this has been beat to death but you have to ponder the thought why? Wouldnt you think it’s because people actually want the damn functionality and better options? :shrug: Just hear me out…thanks.
While other apps [color=SandyBrown]( XSI / C4D / Maya / A:M / Poser etc) are pushing the envelope in the areas of toon-shading Newtek's application is just gathering dust. I remember when Lightwave used to be the defacto standard for celshade as far as I'm concerned.[/color] Now please dont mistake this for a negative bitching session against Newtek that's not my intent although it may sound like it. Its just a feature enhancement cry for help [color=SandyBrown]"Please address the areas of [b]Sketch and Toon[/b], [b]Celshade[/b] and [b]Ink lines[/b]". When I see what other apps are doing with that technology it just makes me sick with envy. For example C4D Sketch & Toon is just unbelievable and I mean wow. This below is a 3D model created in C4D with varying Ink lines...I just didn't realize stuff like this was even possible and the person that created it just started messing around with tool...wonder what the capabilities are once he actually gets good at it? Scary eh?[/color] [C4D Example by a new user](http://www.madmotion.net/mad_cg/earlymacewinduconcept.jpg) [color=SandyBrown]( Not my work ) [/color] And from our own LW community the model [b]"Morfi"[/b] from Johnny Gordon's book ended up with[color=SandyBrown] [color=Silver]a C4D[/color] sketch and toon treatment as well....[/color] [C4D Morfi Example ](http://www.splinecage.com/forums/showthread.php?t=956)[color=SandyBrown]( Not my work ) [/color] And don't get me started talking about [color=SandyBrown]XSI please dont....[Appleseed](http://www.appleseedthemovie.com/)anyone? So I don't even want to hear that there isn't a market for celshade artist or projects or that the market is niche.[/color] You know if Newtek even thought about employing the services via outsourcing to the likes of [color=SandyBrown]David Gould maker of Illustrate it would be a start. But hopefully since the SDK has been opened up a little more we may see other toon type plugins but I fear that Newtek may have missed the boat on that all together, oh well I guess time will tell. Hell even built in shader nodes would at least give us customized options of our own.[/color] Honestly though, I'm probably just a little miffed because the reason I even bought Lightwave is for it's celshading capabilities but I didn't realize it would left to friggin rot :rolleyes:. But for the time being I will continue to use LW for my celshading projects based on what I have seen [color=SandyBrown]Jennifer (Celshader) & Shade01 do with it but there is still so much more that could be done. Eventually I am looking to move on to other application possibilities in the near future.[/color] LOL, but I saved the best for last...one of my best friends [color=SandyBrown]Rick Wade (Darkskills) and I both got into CG heavily at the same time years ago. I wanted to learn how to model, texture, animate you know the whole nine. He just wanted to jump in and start making stuff appear on screen with no hassle. So I stuck with Lightwave and he moved to Poser for his career development.[/color] Well we all know how [color=SandyBrown]Poser gets a bad rap but honestly its because people just don't know how to use it, even me. But Rick is truly a pro at Poser, not only does his models not look like Poser models but he was able to develop his own customized celshading pipeline in Poser to create some awesome celshade work.....now that pissed me off :) [/color] Here is a link to his work.... [http://www.darkskills.celshadeartists.com/](http://www.darkskills.celshadeartists.com/) His Gallery [http://www.celshadeartists.com/](http://www.celshadeartists.com/) His current project Transporters. So "Community"...What is a Lightwave loyalist to do? :shrug: Cheers,