Should i get modo?

#21

I’ve never said that LW modeler doesen’t have any problems, I said that in the builds I’ve done lately, I’ve never had any problems with it . To each his own for sure, and that is the point, he is asking the question of wether or not to purchase MODO or LW upgrade…my opinion from my experience is to not bother with modo…sorry…)) But if any one who has great result with any program I say great…it’s really all about talent In my opinion…

#22

As an example, lets say you have never worked with edge tools. How would you know if you need them or not?

Ever use Vertibevel? Some people will tell you it is an absolutely essential, must have plugin. If you have never used it, how would you know what you are missing?

You could work either way. The question is does the 150.00 cost of Vertibevel add up? If it saves a ton of time it sure does.

Prior to LW8, you had to pay 40.00 for Rounder.

There are literally hundreds of dollars worth of plugins out there.

The point?

people spend money for tools that enhance what they do. In some cases it is hundreds of dollars.

So now lets look at the cost of Modo again.

I get an app that has a very familiar feel to it. It has an very large list of features that LW does not have. Many features that I would have paid for in the cost of plugins for LW if those plugins were available for LW.

it supports standard formats, saves LWO, and OBJ and works seamlessly with LW Layout and Maya. Or Messiah, or Alias Motion Builder.

If you have the 500.00 available to spend, you can’t go wrong with it.

#23

I got the chance to play around with modo recently over at my cousins house. First of all, it’s not a miracle worker. In comparison to LW, YES! It’s great. But it’s still modeling. It has some cool features and a lot of thought went into it’s workflow, but if you’re like me, I’ve never thought the LW workflow was as spectacular as everyone else made it out to be.

Modeling is all the same to me. The best thing to ever happen to modeling isn’t Modo. I’d say ZBrush comes closer to that. The next update looks amazing. I don’t know how good Zbrush would be at hard surfaces like buildings or whatever, but as far as organic models go, Zbrush will be king, if it’s not already.

How much is modo going for right now? $700? $800? $900? I’d recommend buying Silo for $109, and Zbrush for $495. For a couple hundred dollars less then modo you get two modeling programs that can handle anything. I’m not saying modo isn’t cool, because it is! I wish other programs would implement things like action centers, double-click loop select, etc., but for me those features aren’t worth the extra cash. I guess they are worth it for some people though. Whatever floats your boat. :slight_smile:

#24

ok ok ok …you got me…some of the tools Luxology talks about are intriguing …I guess for someone looking for awnseres to thier modeling…ther is never “enough” tools to have in the arsenel…and if it comes to that I buy and use MODO soner than Later…I will officialy eat all of my words…I’ll take a picture, you can watch, :twisted: …peace to all…and I say buy BOTH… :thumbsup:

#25

should i get modo?

well, in my opinion that question can only be answered by testdriving the demo yourself

… which is still not available :twisted:

long time ago i used to like Lightwave (before i saw Maya), modo looks like an advanced version of Lightwave to me, so i am not that tempted…

i wonder why they still haven’t produced a demo version…

#26

essence,

no one would dispute that you can not great some absolutely awesome stuff in LW’s modeler - there is some pretty cool stuff done in even Maya’s modeler.

It’s all about workflow - making life easier . . .

The people who have bought modo that I have read do not want to go back to LW. That has been my experience. LW was the easiest to use modeler for me untill I bought modo. The modeling experience itself is very similar - just imaging the LW modeler with all (well ok - most) of the workflow enhancements that you could ask for (including better OpenGL - let me rant once more about LW’s molasses, older openGL).

Not to mention that a renderer is coming sometime down the line, the sdk is coming which will bring a multitude of scripts and plugins.

Workflow is a huge aspect and the future is bright for modo. I can’t say the same anymore for LW.

#27

I come from c4d of all applications and I think that modo can do some simply amazing things. For rote little tasks like sketching off of two BG images it can get a little tedious but all modelling poly by poly like that can be. But with modo once you start to really try and do crazy things. Funky things, that you wouldn’t have normally tried it starts to really shine. It’s very intuitive and responds well. Yeah I have a few viewport issues but then again it’s my fault for buying a powerbook isn’t it :stuck_out_tongue: hehe. Anyways yeah with modo clicking things go CRAZY fast. :slight_smile:

#28

KURV: If I were just looking for a modeler, I personally would use Silo, it is an amazing modeler…

I would still like to recive the training videos that I paid for, it’s only been 3 months?

#29

In a thread is not really the place to ask this… but if you will give me more information via email than ono, and Canada I will be able to help troubleshoot your order.

kurv@kurvstudios.com

#30

Sigh is this really happening? Have the Silo customer support people invaded the modo forum? what’s next Dion burning people in the Silo forum? sigh… there should be a rule about this.

#31

“kurv” is doing trainning materials…not silo…:slight_smile:

#32

It’s called trolling and they know who they are. They are part of the “I’ve never used Modo, nor do I have plans to” crowd.

Only reason they are posting is for personal agendas.

#33

rent

No, when I posted this thread was in the LightWave forum…

Steve, The only reason I was posting is someone was asking about Modo as a modeler… I personally feel that Silo for 99 bucks is a better deal. Your a thrifty guy, looking for cheap rent, and such, it is all about the bucks baby!! :smiley:

#34

Your a thrifty guy, looking for cheap rent, and such, it is all about the bucks baby!! :smiley:

Hey I just wanna find a cheap woman, if there is such a thing, I know, OT, but its fun :smiley:

MunCH

#35

I think you should retract that statement kurv . . .

This thread was not in the LW forum when I posted - 10 hours before your first post. :smiley:

#36

Oh, so you have a fair amount of experience with Modo then right?

#37

Madmax, did you not read my post earlier? I had a chance to use modo, get a feel for the workflow, blah blah blah, and it wasn’t that amazing. Okay? Not everyone who says Modo isn’t the best thing since sliced bread has a personal agenda. You may love modo, and it may be the best modeler FOR YOU, but it’s not gonna be the best for everyone. Why won’t you let anyone else have an opinion that’s different from yours?

Silo’s a fantastic modeler, and it’s cheap! I prefer it’s workflow to modo, so sue me. If Jedimaster wants to use modo, prefers the workflow, then by all means, buy it. You act like anyone not raving about modo is working for the competition. By your constant praises for modo I’d say you’re working for luxology. I’m not trying to get on your back about this or anything, I just think you should realize how you’re coming across. :slight_smile:

#38

Unless you are personally vouching for everyone who has replied, step off. You don’t know what you are talking about. Can I get any clearer than that?

#39

I was made aware of the thread from the CGTalk emails on the NewTek LightWave 3D forum… I clicked and replied. It had to originally be in the LW forum for me to have seen it via email.

No, Steve, I done think anyone has… it has only been out for a few months. I never said Modo was not a great tool. If anyone has an agenda here it is you. I really do not care what tools get chosen by artists. Someone posed a question and I have an opinion on the matter. It is not as if I came on the forum saying that Modo sucked and not to be looked at. I personally think that a true artist that’s good at what they do can use any modeler, and for 99 dollars, Silo is a great modeler.

So you don’t think so, who the hell cares!

Telling someone else to step off in a forum when they simply disagree with you is completely rude, childish and asinine.

If I were Luxology, I would ask you to stop pushing my product… you turn people off from using it more than help the situation.

#40

Guys, this has gotten a bit snippy. Here’s my take as a LW user, Maya user, Modo user and pretty experienced animator (over 10 years now, dude…I’m getting old…).

Buy Silo - seriously, it’s $100 bux, what do you have to lose? If you don’t like it you’re out a few nights hard drinking worth of $$ and you can still buy Modo.

Something to keep in mind though, if you really want to make an investment in your future don’t think of Modo as just a modeler - it’s a window to a whole new package. I’m sure Silo is a fine program but I don’t think the Silo guys are going to be releasing a world class DCC program in the next few months (or however long it takes Luxology). Once you know Modo (and it’s so easy, believe me) you will have a head start on what’s to come. It may not be the ‘be all end all’ of Modelers (or Renderers or whatever may come) but it’s pretty damn good and will be competing with the top 3 programs right out of the gate. Luxology has assembled a very impressive staff of programmers with a looooong history and proven track record in this industry.

Being around as long as I have it’s funny to me when people complain about the price. If you’re a pro. you will make it up on your first job, if you’re learning and are serious stop and think what people pay for a law degree or even just a B.A. or something similar. It’s an investment in your future, keep that in mind. If I had bought Caligari Truespace instead of LW way back when just to save a few bucks my professional life would have ended up much differently. Maya was $40,000 when it first came out and it was buggy as hell. I have an Indigo Extreme in my closet that cost more than a Corvette. Prices have come down so much it’s not really the limiting factor anymore.

But if you’re just a hobbyist and money is tight - get Silo (or just go drinking : ) )

later,

Greg