Short Film: Digital Glass & Set Extensions


#67

For a PAL project, that sort of res is definitely overkill.:smiley: What res are they at now?

Unfortunately, where I am at the moment I can only get dial-up, so if you can zip those files up, it should help even further…:slight_smile: If you’ve got some webspace to upload them, that should do the trick.

Also, I’ve noticed you’ve been asking around for ‘rain collision’ tutorials - you do know I have that covered?:smiley:

Later.


#68

I didn’t know you had the rain collision covered, I thought you were just gonna add it in to the shot. That is v.cool though. I would like to learn it myself aswell, I find those little things interesting. What software are you using for it?

I just basically cut the images down from 100% to 30% so now they are 5700 pixels by 3600 pixels. I can still go further and then .zip them too. That should help.

What do you want them to be (double?) approx: 1500 by 1200?

Cheers Ross.

Darrell :thumbsup:

PS: It must be quite difficult to get Broadband up there? I found it difficult trying to find a dial-up in Patterdale. :cry:


#69

Hey Darrell, around the 2k mark should be just fine.:slight_smile:

Sure we can get broadband up here, though the town I’m in was just made capable a couple of months ago - haven’t bothered with it yet.

In its simplest form, the rain collision map is just an animated alpha, so any package capable of simple animation can make one.


#70

Hi Ross, that’s cool - thanks for the info on the rain collision. I have uploaded the mattes in a .zip file to www.emilyslastchance.co.uk

The file is in the Post-Production section, sub-category: Downloads!
Let me know how you get on…

Thanks Ross :thumbsup:


#71

Yep, I managed to get them ok…

Question: Do you have your heart set on using this photos? …the thing is I’ve been using the test matte for so long that these just look boring and un-interesting.

These two images, are they supposed to be stitched together or are they completely seperate?

I’ll let you reply first before I make anymore comments.:slight_smile: Needless to say, I have a few issues with them.


#72

I know exactly what you mean… Would it look more realistic though?
The Director said if you can get hold of any other pics at a high enough resolution then that would be really great. It doesn’t matter what city it is; but it’s supposed to be generic and not any further north than the Norwich area because of our contrast with Emily running away to Scotland.

If we do have to use our boring photos though, what are the issues? What needs fixing?

Cheers Ross.
Darrell :thumbsup:


#73

Rest assured, finding other high-res images is no problem at all… what do you think the internet is for?:wink:

The main problems I had with those photos was the framing and the mist …they just didn’t inspire me at all. As soon as I inserted them into the comp, I knew they werent right. If we can get something thats on the same playing field as the test matte then I’m happy.

Later.


#74

That’s excellent, you always manage to pick me up in these worrying situations. Really good stuff… glad we got you on the team :wink:

Have you got any sort of still image from the early comp, that I can have a look at?
No problems at all, just wanna check it out.

Thanks again, speak soon.
Darrell :thumbsup:

PS: That’s what happens when the Producer takes the photos (nice guy though)! We needed the D.O.P on the case really!


#75

Rather than a still, I shall try and get a .mov to you at some point just showing you the move etc…

One of the reasons I wanted a frame was so there was some parallax between the elements…


#76

Cool, look forward to seeing the .mov file (very much)!

I will have a crack at getting a frame sometime soon. Keep your eye out on the web too if you can as will I. I don’t know where to start with aquiring high res photos though.

Cheers. D :thumbsup:


#77

Hey Darrell, you on MSN, ICQ or anything?


#78

I was gonna ask the exact same thing… MSN!

D :thumbsup:

Screen Name: Dazabrit


#79

Are you sure?

“Sorry! Dazabrit could not be added to your list becuase he or she does not have a .NET Passport,”


#80

Sorry, yeah.
I do have MSN, but I use Dazabrit@yahoo.co.uk instead of a Hotmail account.

D :thumbsup:


#81

Howz it going Ross, I have been majorly busy but the hectic edit should be pretty much over tomorrow (taking a break anyway). I have got a good rough cut apart from our Intro which we will be working on tomorrow afternoon.

That means I can get involved with this again and help you out with finding some mattes and stuff for the backgrounds and so on…

The deadline for the film is January 8th if I haven’t mentioned before so we are working to a quite tight schedule but it should be ok! How about you? Are you cool with that?

Cheers Ross.
Darrell :thumbsup:


#82

Hey Darrell mate, good to hear things are going good.:thumbsup: I’ll catch you later on msn if you’re on!

The good news is I’ve found a replacement matte and am pleased with the way it looks. I’ve also been looking at the reflection plates and how they match up with the main plate - this one’s gonna require some fixing as theres some quite noticable head movement, which doesnt occur on the main plate.

Once I’m happy with the way things are, I’ll start doing the final comp.

Later.


#83

Excellent news Ross… I thought we may have a problem with the reflection though. We did ask her to rehearse and copy her actions and it seemed ok when we were filming but It must be near impossible to get someone to do it twice perfectly. Our Video Assist was broken too so that didnt help… we couldnt monitor the bloody shots :banghead:

I was knackered last night so didnt make it on to MSN. I’ll catch up with you later.

Cheers Ross :thumbsup:


#84

Hi there, just wanted to say sorry to WizDoc for not sending you a rushes DVD yet. I have been busy with editing and sound mixing and I just travelled home too for Xmas. My memory is awful at the mo - if you want I can still get the footage to you but I think it would be best if I found some way of doing it on the net. Luckily I have a 2Mb SDSL Broadband connection so I can get it online fairly easily, i seem to remember you saying you are alright the other end too.

Do you have some sort of FTP account setup?
I’ve said loads of times before that I am clueless when it comes to this so you might have to kick me into shape and tell me how to do it, ive looked around the net but I don’t quite understand how the darn thing works…

Hope you are ok, merry xmas and all that good stuff. :thumbsup:

Cheers.Darrell

PS: Howz the window comp comin along Ross?
I liked the lightning flashy stuff the other day, jus checkin in to see how its going. :bounce:


#85

Hi.

I just got back from visiting my folks for Christmas/New Year. I read your post and ummm… :eek:

If the deadline is indeed January 8th, it’s going to be really tight, especially when I don’t have any of the material yet. So, how do you want to play this?

I have a pretty fast connection but with a cap on the total data amount for each 24 hour period, so shuttling the footage around, while feasible from the purely technical standpoint, won’t happen in an instant. I was hoping to have the DVD waiting once I got back, but now it appears sending it over post won’t definitely make it to the deadline as I have to send the finished material to you as well. Of course, I also need at least a day to do the actual work itself. Factor in the time needed to put the finished footage into the film, I’m not seeing this thing getting done by the January 8th.

So, unless you can extend the deadline somehow, then I can at least post the method how I put together the test comp with the low-res (and how I intended to do the actual comp). Comping by proxy isn’t exactly the best way to do it, and the director won’t probably be a happy camper, but at least you’ll get something done with the shot and not have a greenscreen sticking out in the finished film.


#86

Hi WizDoc, sorry about the DVD. It was just a case of bad timing, me rushing around working on different projects. I think I and another compositor in the UK are gonna have to finish these shots off. I appreciate all your help and advice on the project and I’ll still credit you and send you a copy of the film.

I am busy in pre-prod on our next film so maybe we can get better organised and get you workin on that in some way. We film in March 2005 and it is about the Afghans and the Americans thinking they are both innocent parties of war.

We are going to be filming RAF helicopters in the UK and then comping them into different surroundings. It is going to be a challenging one but we have longer to figure everything out this time around.

Cheers.
Darrell :slight_smile: