Secret Agent Entry: Israel Breslav


#17

Designer - No need to pick apart all of my comments. I think it’s safe to say you don’t agree with my opinions, but that’s okay. They’re exactly that: opinions. Did I not notice the flying cars in the background? Of course I did - that’s how I could tell that Srulik was shooting for making the vehicle in the lower right a flying car (or whatever.) But with so much of it cropped out of the frame, it wasn’t immediately obvious that it was flying without studying the image more deeply. I merely suggested that it would be a stronger image if it were instantly apparent that it’s a flying craft, even just from looking at the thumbnail (which it is now.) (Also, I think films and still images are completely different beasts and one cannot totally be judged by the rules of the other. In film, you have camera and object motion and time wokring together to guide the eye in a way that you don’t in a single static image, so what works in a film might not in a painting. It’s just my opinion - which doesn’t count in this particular challenge - but I feel that a painting should have more clarity to it.)

Sriluk - i think this new version is working better! Being able to see more of the frlying craft, and seeing the cuty background beneath it’s engine pods really help sell that it’s a flying vehicle… plus, it’s a much cooler design! :thumbsup: We’re seeing the agent character froma lower camera - maybe you could fool around with seeing more of the vehicle from slightly underneath as well… or maybe you could exaggerate its banking even more by rotating it counterclockwise. right now it’s close to being parallel with the horizon but rotating it could be very dyanimic and cut off that lower right corner even more, which would be a nice compositional touch.

I have to confess that I don’t understand what the flying-car pilot is doing. Shooting the agent in the back? Stabbing him with a really long fencing sword? It’s just not clear to me, so I hope that you (or Designer) will enlighten me! :smiley:


#18

wow man excelent stuff…

my only crit would be about the way the policeman is pulling the guy out, at first glance it looked to me as if he was holding a fencing sword.

I imagine a more type of spiderman rescue, just a thought…


#19

First to the picture: I don´t think the lash fits the rest of the image (hint for walrus!). I would expect a more uptodate catching mechanism. Maybe a laser kind of thing, or holographic, something more on par with the rest of the technology. However, I think the police man must have kind of spider super powers to react that fast when that guy crashes out of the wall. :wink: Maybe going a different route would be better for the composition. Or you somehow indicate that the police guy knew he would crash out of there (like showing other guys scanning other walls nearby with an xray gun or similar, or him having a 3d holo projection coming out of his car showing the situation inside the wall)

btw. I like the added details of the background!

@walrus: Of course it´s your opinion and yes I don´t agree. But please leave it up to me on which parts of your comments I answer seperately. That´s what quote brackets are used for you know?! Giving different opinions on different parts of other opinions (of course you can suggest to CGTalk to restrict postings to one quote bracket but well, the chances are good they won´t take that suggestion ;) hey, this was sarcasm, don´t punish me!).

Not sure why you felt attacked by it, but it was not my intention. To me it´s simply clearer to comment different parts of a posting seperately (if I quote).

Anyway, dynamic composition is totally off from motion, in the end it´s a composition. This will work either in a still image or in a motion picture, the rules are exactly the same. For motion pictures you just have to take other aspects into account that might appear in following pictures, but that barely changes a good dynamic composition. You may take a different composition therefore in a motion picture but that doesn´t touch the dynamics of a composition or make one composition less dynamic than the other.
Roughly put, a dynamic composition of a still image will work in a motion picture in the same way and show the same dynamics, as a motion picture is nothing else than a series of still images shifted in time.


#20

Beautiful composition!


#21

I think I am starting to like the composition. I’ve decided that the policeman will react to the explosion.
Crits are most welcome :slight_smile:


#22

Designer- thnx for your crits, I’ve decided to drop the lash thingy :slight_smile:
Walrus- Your crits helped alot, thanx man.
citizenpayne, Kerem- thanx!


#23

I like the picture better with the policeman reacting to the big boom instead of using the lash (thank you, Designer!) Although maybe you could try turning his head to look at the explosion even with his arm up to protect him. It would help subtly guide the eye back up into the picture and connect the two more.

Also, your last comp (admittedly rougher) had the word police on the side of the flying vehicle. Without that there’s nothing to really tie him to being a police officer. Are you going to re-add decals to the “car?” Blue and Red lights could also be really cool… or they could unbalance the color composition you already have. :shrug:


#24

Hi walrus,
I will try to apply the adjustments of the head as you suggested.
The word “Policeman” wasn’t forgotten, I will apply it later :slight_smile:
Thanx man!


#25

A larger image.
I’ve started to work on the details, still not perfect, something in the BG is bothering me.
CC are welcome


#26

Very nice action scene. The colors do a superb job of bringing the eye from the left to the right.


#27

look really great,the onlything not really ok is the perspective the main building with the backgound are not in the same perspective.
great details! looking forward for the next update.


#28

Cool scene, great colors, it’s dynamic. Good job :wink:


#29

CyrilJEDOR- thank u so much!
Kaelion- thank’s man. it means alot!
Irawan- thank you so much for your comment about the perspective, u completely right. I guess I’ve got so carried away with the concept that I forgot about the basics :D. I am already working on it.


#30

yeah, now you got it! This makes much more sense now and the colors are very cool…ahem, I mean hot. :thumbsup:


#31

Kick-ass action scene! The colors are so great here and really help the sense of drama :slight_smile:


#32

Perfectly man!
well done!:slight_smile:


#33

I think I almost done, I will add some textures and texts :slight_smile:


#34

Marat-Ars- thnx man!
MartinNielsen, Designer- I am glad u like it!
Irawan- I fixed the perspective of the building, hope it works :slight_smile:


#35

Nice use of both warm and cool tones in the foreground. And I also liked how you separated them with the lowsat background in the middle. Good Job:cool:


#36

“That’s it, this will be my last mission, I am too old for this”, said Rick six hours ago, after leaving the FBI headquarters with a new brief. His mission was to get an intel about a dirty chief of NYPD and leave without a trace. But someone tipped the police, they knew he was coming.
“I am too old for this”, thought Rick, while he was flying through a window 200 feet above the ground.