ROBERTO'S BULLHORN: Clue for the Next Modelling Challenge

#1

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[li]It is NOT organic…[/li][li]It is big![/li][/ul]

#2

Titanic, Taj Mahal, Eiffel tower ?

#3

Mount Everest?
Non-organic models are relatively easier though, so I think the time limit should be shorter than 4 week this time.

#4

I think 2 weeks should be the max.

#5

Yeah, a few of us have even completed David in two weeks.
THe only thing is that it’s unfair for people who don’t have as much time to spend modeling.

#6

I am leaning towards 3 weeks…
-R

#7

good, otherwise ( depending on the complexity ) I won’t be able to participate.

#8

Roberto, I really think it should be two weeks.
First of all, the postings have really dropped off moving into the third week, I think people have just gotten bored with following the contest and the participants have gotten bored modeling the same thing for so long. Most WIP threads are no longer being updated.
Secondly, a few of us actually modeled David in two weeks, even though we knew we had longer, so that seems like a good benchmark date to me, I doubt anything is goign to be harder or more time consuming than that.
Most of the buzz and excitment lasted for two weeks, and it would have been a nice climax to have had the voting then, instead of having to wait another two weeks.

#9

I see your point, and I understand you getting bored modeling the same thing for so long. But I guess that’s the price you pay for being fast and skillful.

What are we saying if we cut the deadline to 2 weeks when everyone was saying in the original post that they didn’t have the time for 3 weeks. I think this challenge is about the learning experience, not to see who can model something very hard, very fast. I’m sure there are people that have seen our progress on David that are looking forward in joining the next challenge. Two weeks will just scare them off. this is about modeling, helping each other out ( like the way you guys help me ) and learning. Becoming better, becoming skillfull and more confidient.

#10

Well, why not make it six months then, so people can really learn and model at their own pace.
Having to model quickly is also part of the challenge, and it’s nice to get through these as quickly as possible and get onto something new.
More different models means more learning.
SPending a long time on a single model does not promote more learning.

#11

i wouldnt settle for 2 weeks without knowing what the challenge is.

besides, many of us finished the basic model they started but i doubt anyone can say that they have modeled it really close to the real master piece.

each of us are only tweaking it to a certain level that we personaly think is done. but in reality i dont see many models that really look like the david, except the basic anatomy.

some are really close and some arent. detail and perfection is never ending i would say. so keeping that in mind i think even 6 weeks may not be enough to make a perfect model.

#12

true, but three weeks (21days) is a good starting point. Part of the challenge also is pushing yourself, so that you don’t need 6months.

#13

Heh, even michelangelo had to stop at some point, and I’m sure he wasn’t happy that his model was perfect either.

#14

im sure he wasnt trying to create a copy of something else, rather create something new altogether. the perfection i am talking about does not exist in an original art, it only exists is replicas. we are creating a copy of something already done therefore it requires as much perfection as possible in the given time. and i think we are way too ahead discussing all this before Roberto even announced the topic. i am sure he is selecting something that is going to be close to impossible to finish perfectly in 3 weeks; same as this challenge.

#15

is it pentagon?

3 weeks sounds perfectly fine by me. -that way, it’s possible to still have a normal job, besides:)

-r

#16

It’s still an arbitrary deadline, it doesn’t matter if it’s 2, 3 or 4 weeks, since it’s the total hours spent that counts. I could have worked 48 hours on this without stopping and have finished in 2 days, rather than spread it over 2 weeks. All 3 weeks means is that you can spread the same 50 hours over 3 weeks instead of 2, but the total time is the same.

#17

Exactly!! So by you saying that, consider those of us ( abyss103 and I for example ) who have to spread that 48hrs for example over a 3week period. I saw in one of your posts that you mention spending 5hrs working on something. I’m assuming that’s 5hrs str8. I work full time, I don’t have that much time on any given day to spend. Me, I have an hr today, 2hrs tomorrow, and so on, I do the best I can with the time I have. So I think it would be fair to consider those that can’t spend that time all at once.

Like you, I could model all day, but it’s not possible, yet I would still like to join these challenges. Think about when you first started out, was it easy to just get up and model something like this easily or quickly? It probably took you time to develop a good workflow, finding the tools that you like, setting up shortcuts and so on. Now think about us who are here now where you were. Give them the time needed so that they too can reach that point.

You said a few of you finished in two weeks, the deadline shouldn’t be decided on the few, but on the overall amount of time everyone took to finish.

#18

Excellent description of my mother in law.

Three weeks is obviously better. Thanks Roberto

#19

I don’t agree. THis is a HARDCORE modeling challenge on a website for accomplished CG artists. THis isnot 3dbuzz. Look at the 3d finished galleries here, you can’t just submit work there, it has to be filtered for approval by moderators to meet certain standards - that’s the sort of place this is.
This contest isn’t for beginners, hence the word ‘hardcore’, hence the very high difficulty of the challenges, and hence, I would argue, the short time period we should have to complete it.
Some people could take 6 months to finsh this, so we can judge it by that.

#20

I can’t believe you said that. Are you saying beginners don’t belong on this website? That they have no right joining a hardcore challenge, That they should just stand back and leave it for the accomplished? You must of born with unbeatable talent, b/c I don’t see anyone starting from the ground up saying something that silly.

So let’s forget about the begginers for the moment then, what are your thoughts on those that are not begginers, but don’t have the time to finish in 2weeks?