Realism: bolts


#221

Sure, we all have standards. My standards of good art tend toward realism. If it looks like something that I could reach out and touch, that’s pretty good. Maybe even great. This standard I apply toward paintings, drawings and digital works (motion & still). Photography is a different category, and so I tend to look for a more emotive response, something that catches a feeling or essence of something. I also apply this toward “traditional” and digital works.

Then there is the surreal, which I also enjoy, but again with a bias toward the more realistic.

To answer your questions of what makes art normal, good or great? Sorry, I’ll have to pull out that “bull$4!7” argument of subjectivity. The more people that enjoy a piece of art, the “better” or perhaps more accurately, more “popular” it is considered to be. However, popular works are generally considered to be generally less sophisticated and more of a fad than any long standing piece that reflects the human condition. Here today and gone tomorrow…A great piece of art is usually something that moves or inspires a good number of people as well as critics.

Ah, the critics…those “professionals” who know what is best for us and what we shouldn’t like because they said so. My opinion of such people tends toward the negative. I view them, as a whole, to be arrogant and out of touch. But then, I also hate lawyers…

The Mona Lisa is a great piece of art. It’s been around 500 years gaining accolades across the generations of public and critic alike. We like it. But, when I saw it hanging in the Louvre in Paris I thought it was pretty nice, but damn, I saw some “better” portraits on the gallery wall that impressed me more. And as we go back in time, works such as the bayeaux tapestry, another work considered to be great, I see more of a historical document rather than an artwork. The figures are flat and almost childish…I don’t find it to be quite as engaging…and other medieval works look almost comical.

So, I have to go back to the original point. Art is subjective. We all have our preferences and bias. A piece that is great for one may be lambasted by another. Art usually appeals to the emotions and therefore will (or should) always remain subjective. If you like it, good. If you don’t, good. Let it be.

If you want absolutes, try looking at math. 1+1=2. However, even there we find a slippery slope with fractals and their implementation into computer art…

“Mandelbrot, Julia?”
“Yes, please.”

PS If you really want to get a heated argument going, let’s discuss Bryce and Poser. :grin: Personally I don’t use them, but I’m not going to knock those who get enjoyment out of it. And hey, sometimes they DO make a pretty picture…


#222

arseny its a awesome work good job:bounce: :bounce: :applause:

and you guys what is this forum about??
it’s art or not?
if you see this image in a photo gallery you will say this is a photo
in this thread you can not bu sure:)
thats the point man that’s art…
so go on and argue if it’s art or not

arseny if i were you i won’t even post a wire:scream:
for 1 week to see who kills who

and now who is the winner???


#223

…read through this thread and to be honest all I can do at this point is just laugh.

-km


#224

Hey, why not throw in your two cents too? We’re philosophising about the nature of art itself! Be careful, some are taking it a bit too seriously…


#225

reallllllllllll
excellent work !!!:applause:


#226

er ye…they look like real bolts… :applause:


#227

yes reading this thread can give a few laughs and yes maybe this discussion is pointless but dont ruin it. Theres nothing like a good ol cgtalk debate.

internot, im not tying to say that your wrong, wait yes i am. Is the monalisa art, critics marvel at her realistic hands and such, well is it any less dificult to replicate that in cg. Oh and i forgot she has that smile well its not realy that thought provoking. I dont mean to dis it its a very nice peice and a great achievement and my congrats to you leonardo, but why is none of this art and why does everyone have low standards. Maybe everyone just has diferent perceptions, a piece might realy affect you (not that this screws piece did, me) and someone else might say thats not art why do you have low standards. who are they to say that to you. If its art to you then what does it matter. a pieces popularity does not decide its worth. I agree that there are many more thought provoking pieces and many better pieces but that doesnt mean that its not art. It might provoke thoughts of ho it was achieved or just amazement that those screws never existed and that just because are eyes see something doesnt make it real. Take my friend joe, no-one else can see him, but i can, does that make me skitzofrenic yes, does it make everyone else just blind and unable to see him, yes. Its just perspective.

you raised a questiona bout degrees of art. Thats a much better argument even though it is a personal thing.

ps. im not really skitzofrenic i was just making a point.


#228

[left]very impressive stuff, great reflections !
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#229

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