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OneMonth" - Reel 2006 - Philip Hartmann
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PROPOSAL for FUTURE HCR CHALLENGE: 30 Models in 30 days
RobertoOrtiz
#41
claybub
#42
hey roberto, I like this idea but like some have said already, 30 models in 30 days may be too much. IMO 15-20 would be more suitable. For complex objects, perhaps model a part of a popular sculpture or character from a film. Also, if the list includes mundane and/or objects we see everyday then you may find less interest in the challenge. perhaps if the objects were complex…but any stage of completion would be acceptable. That way people can get enthousiastic about a piece and end up going overboard if they wish (eg. model crazy detail and proportionatly perfect) OR do a simple blocked version where maybe only a certain part has high detail like eyes OR just model for the sillouette.
I think if the primary focus is to learn, rather than to win, then this challenge (as well as future challenges) will be much more successful.
(I really like how rebecca did the spotlight with everones attempt for the master copies in the anatomy forum, rather than showcasing the winners work)
and while im at it… although i didnt actively participate in the michelangelo’s david challenge, I was inspired to model him for fun after the challenge, and i discovered a wonderful new passion to do master copies of traditional sculptures. I was hoping that the next challenge after big ben would be a sculpture with an interesting pose/clothing. it also encourages us to study traditional masters which is loads of fun, and extremely useful to us as artists.
so there ya go. my humble 2 cents. 
jameskhoo
#43
okie… well mabbe u guys are right… mabbe we can propose like a random image or images drawn by famous artist to do the modelling… might need a combination of both organic and non organic and between easy modelling to intermediate modelling… how about each of the cg talk member contribute one picture painted or composed by him/her and from the whole lot of entries we get , we decide which artworks will be selected to model and for each day there will be a different overall theme to model.
RobertoOrtiz
#44
Well for the amount of models I was thinking we could do it in level
I would separate it in 3 different cathegories
10 20 30
10 is Silver Level
20 is Gold
30 Is Platinum
The user would have the option to aim for one of the three cathegories. And if he wants he can upgrade.
-R
Pdude2K5
#45
I think that each model that is annaunced will be completely different then the
previous one…no 2 models in the same category…I think it sould be a mix of models
from different aspects from architecture to organic…Perhaps even model a small
part of a complex architectural structure(maybe a pillar or an ornament).
Ideas for objects:
-Diamonds or a gem stone. - http://www.amgmedia.com/freephotos/DSCN0844.jpg
-Fruits - http://www.amgmedia.com/freephotos/DSCN3767.jpg
-Fishes or sea creatures.
-Optical illuisions - http://perdana.fsktm.um.edu.my/~mazliza/img/optical_illusion1.jpg
http://perdana.fsktm.um.edu.my/~mazliza/img/optical_illusion2.jpg
http://home.jtan.com/~febdian/funnypics/optical_illusion-impossible_geometry_(ascendin).jpg
-Mechanical parts, Motorbike engine or carborator.
http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/egrandbuy/egrandbuygenesis5.jpg
-vases - http://www.perfectdayflorist.net/nss-folder/pictures/Lenox%20Floral%20Vine%20Vase.JPG
-RC cars or hovercrafts - http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/raidentech168/ballcar1.jpg
http://site.wonderhobby.com/sunfirenitrocar8.jpg
http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/raidentech168/bluehovercraft01.jpg
http://site.wonderhobby.com/hoverman7.jpg
Inventions - http://www.autoemirates.com/_Images/Classic/ConceptCar-Da-Vinci.jpg
Sections of architecture(not the whole pic ofcourse) - http://www.cherba.com/traumerei/images/20040310/20040310n.jpg
Instuments - http://www.jerkasmarknad.com/violin_strad.jpg
Or we could make a car or and object that will have all the mechanical parts and
each part will be modeled every day and at the end of the month we will have a
complete car or something else.
Just some thoughts
-Pdude
morphius-ms
#46
I personally think that 30 models in 30 days would be a little too much especially for some kick a** models but it would really be a learning experience like no other…
As for not having the people know what they are going to be modeling the next day would be a good idea because if you give a list and go on sheer trust (and I’m not saying that people here aren’t trustworthy) you could have a bunch of people that have models that they spent a week or two days on instead of one day…
if you put out the list one model per day you would be sure that they would only be modeling in one 24 hour period per model (or however long it would be). The model that they would be working on would just have to be posted before the next model comes out, and give a certain time that the next model would be posted so the modelers know how long they have to post it (for example: “Each model will be posted at midnight each night.”) of course the time would be up to you Roberto.
Just my thoughts.
Pdude2K5
#50
I agree with 20 models…After all its quality not quantity that counts.
Roberto - Are you the only on that will compile the list?
Good luck to everyone who joins and thanks to Roberto for this great competition:thumbsup:.
-Pdude
RobertoOrtiz
#51
Ok here is the plan I wll be posting the new challenge on Friday.
IF and only IF we get the logistics for this one in the can, we will do it.
If not, we will do a “traditional challenge” until we iron out the details.
Anyway here is the global list so far:
Animals
-Horse
-Hippo
Hardware
-Crowbar
-Screwdriver
-Hammer
-Screw
-Nail
Furniture
-Designer chair
-Desk
Forklift
Stereo
Tank
Ficus tree
Severed limb
Spine
Cow skull
Well
Submarine
Samurai armour
Brazier
Revolver
Brooch
Apartment block
Fire truck
Cardinal
B-52
Camel
Gargoyle
Toilet
Saddle
Monkey
Salmon
Squid
Toaster
Snail
Boot
Ornamental ring
Halberd
Eagle
Rib cage
Mona Lisa
Escalator
Fire escape
Dust mite
Satellite
Jam jar
Palm tree
Mushroom
Plaster bust
Suspension bridge
Rocket launcher
Engraved cupboard
Piano
Table
Axe
Headphones
Ballpoint pen
Tire iron
Book
Candelabra
Standard (flag)
Lectern
Scroll
Underwear
Swing
Sink
Money pouch
Manacles
Bullet
Kennel
Bow
Frying pan
Shield
Gibbet
Scissors
Tennis Racket
Bunsen burner
Wheelie bin
Power outlet
Art Supplies
Kitchen Supplies:
-Coffee mug
-Fork
-Spoon
Cannons
-Howitzer
Guns
-Bullet
-Dessert Eagle
-AK-47
-P-90
-Colt 45
- M16
-FAMAS
-SIG 550
-Browning 9
-Walther P99
-Luger
-Uzi
-Gatling gun
-M4 carbine,
Swords
-Tanto
-Kitchen Knife
-Broadsword
-Dagger
-Katana
-Wakizashi
-Sabre
-Gladius
-Rapier
-Dao
-Lightsaber
-Scimitar
-Butterfly sword
-Longsword
-Machete
-Bayonet
Art materials
-Wodden Puppets
-Brush
-Eraser
-pen eraser
-Pencil
-Marker
-Oils Tube
-Easel
-Art table
-Stool
-X-Acto Knife
-pastels
-clayhammer
-Calligraphy Ink
-Calligraphy pen
Computer:
.-Monitor
-Keyboard
-sound card
-heatsink
-18mm fan
-optical mouse(transparent)
-monitor
-keyboard
-hard disk drive (open up)
-cpu casing
-.motherboard.
Street models
-Telephone pole
-Fire hydrant
-Street Light
-Telephone Booth
-Fire hydrant
-Newspaperbox
-Mailbox
-realstate box
-Trashcan
Multimedia
-earphones
-Ipod
-cellphone
-psp
-gameboy
-Nitendo DS
-Video camera
-CD
-Television
-boombox
-stereo
-speaker
Computers
-mouse
_Monitor
-Pc
Misc
Mechanical parts, Motorbike engine or carborator.
-Forklift
-RC cars or hovercrafts -
http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/egrandbuy/egrandbuygenesis5.jpg
Diamonds or a gem stone. - http://www.amgmedia.com/freephotos/DSCN0844.jpg
-Fruits - http://www.amgmedia.com/freephotos/DSCN3767.jpg
Pineapple
-vases - http://www.perfectdayflorist.net/nss-folder/pictures/Lenox%20Floral%20Vine%20Vase.JPG
Animals
-Fishes or sea creatures
-Optical illuisions - http://perdana.fsktm.um.edu.my/~mazliza/img/optical_illusion1.jpg
http://perdana.fsktm.um.edu.my/~mazliza/img/optical_illusion2.jpg
http://home.jtan.com/~febdian/funnypics/optical_illusion-impossible_geometry_(ascendin).jpg
http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/raidentech168/ballcar1.jpg
http://site.wonderhobby.com/sunfirenitrocar8.jpg
http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/raidentech168/bluehovercraft01.jpg
http://site.wonderhobby.com/hoverman7.jpg
Inventions - http://www.autoemirates.com/_Images/Classic/ConceptCar-Da-Vinci.jpg
Sections of architecture(not the whole pic ofcourse) - http://www.cherba.com/traumerei/images/20040310/20040310n.jpg
Instuments - http://www.jerkasmarknad.com/violin_strad.jpg
Or we could make a car or and object that will have all the mechanical parts and
each part will be modeled every day and at the end of the month we will have a
complete car or something else.
Just some thoughts
ZaneV
#52
Building on this idea can be never ending… the amount of different things we could do are many but I think for now we have to start simple… find out what works and what doesn’t.
We have established the fact that this is a good idea and can be a very good learning experience for most of us and that perhaps 30 models is a bit much… some people think that we should not know what we will model until the start of the challenge and some people think we should. Then there is onehotmouse’s idea which I like very much.
I think what we need to realise is that the first challenge using this idea may not be the best ideal challenge for everybody and that we can always fix what didn’t go to well and keep what did go well.
So, say the first challenge is a 20 models in one month challenge where roberto gives us the full list at the beginning of the challenge, then the next challenge could based on onehotmouse’s idea and then from their we can see what worked well and what didn’t. Perhaps after onehotmouse’s challenge we could do the interesting idea of building parts of car each day until we have an entire car.
Roberto your idea is really good, I think this competition could really help me,
Thanks
ZaneV
ZaneV
#53
I want to get the logistics in the can with this one so to speak, so I have decided to put forward a sort of outline for the challenge:
[u][b]
30 Day Hardcore Challenge[/b][/u]
Challenge Levels
The challenge is divided into three different sections (Roberto’s idea) to accomidate people who are busy and people who can’t create a model a day. This is also a great idea because hopefully we will see, as more of these challenges are completed, different members progressing through to the gold level because they are becoming faster modelers.
Platinum Challenge: [i]This challenge only has 15 models that are required to be completed, giving competitiors 2 days per model.
[/i]Silver Challenge:[i] This challenge has 20 models that are required to be completed, giving competitors 1 and a half days per model.
[/i]Gold Challenge: [i]This challenge has 30 models that are required to be completed, giving competitors 1 day per model.
[/i]The List of 30 Models
We have seen, two posts up, a very large list of models submited by Roberto. In this challenge Roberto chooses 30 models from his list, preferably not all in the same category (it would become more of a challenge to model some organic, some machinery and some sleek futuristic models etc.) At the beginning of the challenge, when it is announced Roberto lists the models under the Platinum, Silver and Gold challenges. Each challenge should have 10 models the same and gold and silver challenges should have 20 models the same.
Competitors Threads:
Competitors will create threads in the Hardcore Modeling Challenge forum and have a title which follows this template:
Template: HCR 30 Day Challenge: [challenge level] - [competitor name]
Example: [u]HCR 30 Day Challenge: Gold - Zane
[/u]When each competitor completes the required model and posts it in there thread their post should follow a certain template to make it easier for voters when it is voting time. Bellow I have created a proposed template:
[u][i]Title of Model Completed
[/i][/u][i][Model Image]
Comments:
[/i][u][b]Dealing with time differences
[/b][/u]I think this will be the most difficult thing about this challenge, time zones. Australia is basicly a day ahead of america. I am not really good at working with time differences and stuff so I am wondering if there are any suggestions or if this problem has already been fixed in previous challenges.
[u][b]Judging Competitors:
[/b][/u]A voting system will still be used for this challenge just like all the traditional challenges. Roberto will annouce voting and list all competitors (divided into their specified challenge levels), which have completed the challenge succesfully. The listed names will be linked to their threads in this forums.
Under each challenge level (gold, silver and platinum) there will be different things by which people can give them a vote for, these things are:
(they are the same for each challenge level)
[ul]
[li] Best detailed models (The competitor that has the most detailed models)[/li][li] Models that are closest to reference (The competitor thats models are closest to provided reference material)[/li][li] Best renders (The competitors that have the best model renders)[/li][li] Best overall models (pretty much self explanitory)[/li][/ul]Once all of the voting has finished (one week for voting), Roberto will post the results like with the traditional challenges.
I hope I have covered everything the needs to be covered… please tell me what you think guys.
I think after a challenge like this we should do onehotmouse’s idea.
Thanks,
ZaneV
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RobertoOrtiz
#59
Ok here is a draft…
The Hardcore Modeling MINI-Challenge #4: 30 Days, 30 Models
THE HARDCORE MODELING MINI-CHALLENGE!
30 Days, 30 Models
Sculpt up to 30 models in 1 month from the provided list.
There are TWO ways to participate:
Either:
[ul]
[li]PICK AND CHOOSE: [/li]You can pick whatever models you wish from the attached list at the end of this post
[li]DAILY MODEL THREAD:[/li]Wait for a Daily thread called thread called the DAILY MODEL and post on this thread the model selected for that day
[/ul]BOTH threads will reference the SAME model list, the intention is to fomment modellers to finish the highest number of finished entries.
THE CHALLENGE:___________________________
Sculpt up to 30 models in 1 month from the provided list. The idea of this “mini-challenge” is to simulate an impossible dateline for a project. The artists will have at their discretion how detailed the models they will be working on, if the models will be shaded, and the interpretation of what they should be modeling.
For example an entry might call for a duck, but the artist might sculpt a realistic fully shaded duck or decide to model a more simple toy rubber duck. The key is that the model HAS to be based on some sort of real life reference.
Challenge Levels
The challenge is divided into three different sections to accomidate people who are busy and people who can’t create a model a day. This is also a great idea because hopefully we will see, as more of these challenges are completed, different members progressing through to the Platinum level because they are becoming faster modelers.
Silver Challenge: This challenge only has 10 models that are required to be completed, giving competitiors 2 days per model.
Gold Challenge: This challenge has 20 models that are required to be completed, giving competitors 1 and a half days per model.
Platinum Challenge: This challenge has 30 models that are required to be completed, giving competitors 1 day per model.
CAN YOU DO IT?
What is the HARDCORE MODELING CHALLENGE?
The idea of these HARDCORE MINI CHALLENGES is to push the modeling skills participants while learning from the past. To get past preconceptions of the limits of digital art. To push digital artists into the world of sculptors & artisans. But we will have variety on these mini challenges. Sometimes we will sculpt a model based on a masterpiece, but on other times we might do Jet fighter or a landmark…
The only thing that will be consistent is the SHORT DATELINES.
At the end of the challenge, the participant should have a finished collection of entries. Keep in mind contest of high difficulty you will have ONE MONTH to do the challenge, but the rewards, even if you don’t win, will be your improved skills in speed and accuracy.
EVALUATION CRITERIA:______________________
Detailed RESEARCH, and attention to detail are key for ALL entries. Please before doing an entry do your homework.
The best model will be selected by an open vote
for these categories:
[ul]
[li]Most Accurate Model (Collection)[/li][li]Best Detailed Model (Collection)[/li][li]Best Render (Collection)[/li][li]Best Overall Collection[/li][li]Most Accurate Model (Individual)[/li][li]Best Detailed Model (Individual)[/li][li]Best Render (Individual)[/li][li]Highest Number of FINISHED models[/li][/ul]The winner will get bragging rights and a small banner
designed by me.
DATELINE: Monday September 25 th 12:00 PM
YOU HAVE One MONTH do the challenge.
CHALLENGE SPECIFIC RULES:
[ul]
[li]No work taken DIRECTLY from an existing tutorial. You may use an existing tutorial only for reference.[/li][li]You may NOT use a pre exiting models. All models must be done from scratch.[/li][li]An artist may change from PICK AND CHOOSE type of participation to DAILY MODEL THREAD whenever he or she wishes.[/li][/ul]GENERAL RULES:
[ul]
[li]For DAILY MODEL THREAD the model must have been done AFTER the topic has been announced.[/li][li]for PICK AND CHOOSE the selected models must have been done AFTER the topic has been announced.[/li][li]Becuase if the HUGE number of files WIP are NOT encouraged, only final entries[/li][li]WIP thread should be posted on the Hardcore Modeling Challenge forum and should follow[/li]the following naming convention: HARDCORE MODELING!: 30Days_30Models: <<TYPE OF ENTRY >>
[li]For each image you should post:[/li]
[u][i]Title of Model Completed[/i][/u]
[b][Model Images][/b]
Comments:
[/ul]And should be posted on both the individual WIP thread on on this master thread.
[ul]
[li]For each model 3 Orthographic renders ARE REQUIRED. These renders are for TOP, SIDE, BOTTOM views and a BEAUTY RENDER.[/li]
BEAUTY RENDER:
Final RENDERS should be rendered at 1600 X 1200 OR 1200 x 1600 in JPG format.(Post only as link) A smaller 800x 600 OR 600 x 800 image should be posted on the threads.
ORTHOGRAPHIC RENDERINGS:
Ortographic renderings ARE REQUIRED for EACH entry and should be rendered at 800 x 600 OR 600x800.
- This means you need to submit renders of the from the Front, Sides (2), Back, Top and bottom.
[li]TURNTABLE ANIMATION (VOLUNTARY).[/li]- I recomentd to aid the voters a turntable rendering of the model. It would have to be done in QuickTime or Windows Media at a resolution of 600 x 400 OR 300 x 200. The render might be done as a Quickshade or Beauty Render.
[li]Please add a brief text description about your piece.[/li][li]The artist also has to post total length of time it took to do and program used.[/li][li]Future topics for hardcore Challenges will be picked at random from the list on[/li]this >>thread << (The author will be given credit). So guys keep them coming.
[li]Post on this thread your link to your WIP thread and your FINAL piece.[/li][li]Only participants who follow the rules and submit a final entry will be eligible for the voting process.[/li][li]Any piece caught breaking the rules will be taken[/li]off the thread.
[/ul][b]The models should be picked from the following list :
Art materials
1-Art table
2-Brush
3-Calligraphy Ink
4-Calligraphy pen
5-Clay Hammer
6-Easel
7-Eraser
8-Pencil
9-Pen Eraser
10-Marker
11-Oils Tube
12-Pastels
13-Stool
14-Wodden Puppets
15-X-Acto Knife
Animals
16-Horse
17-Hippo
18-Salmon
19-Snail
20-Squid
Bladed Weapons
21-Axe
22-Broadsword
23-Butterfly sword
24-Bayonet
25-Dagger
26-Dao
27-Katana
28-Kitchen Knife
29-Gladius
30-Lightsaber
31-Longsword
32-Machete
33-Rapier
34-Sabre
35-Sai
36-Scimitar
37-Tanto
38-Wakizashi
Boats & Ships
39-Paperboat
40-Speed Boat
41-Submarine
42-Small Sailboat
43-Tug
Cannons
44-Howitzer
Furniture
45-Designer chair
46-Desk
Guns
47-AK-47
48-Browning 9
49-Bullet
50-Colt 45
51-Dessert Eagle
52-FAMAS
53-Gatling gun
54-Luger
55-M4 carbine,
56-M16
57-P-90
58-SIG 550
59-Uzi
60-Walther P99
Hardware
61-Crowbar
62-Hammer
63-Nail
64-Screw
65-Screwdriver
Kitchen Supplies:
66-Coffee mug
67-Fork
68-Spoon
Office Supplies
69-Desk
70-Office Chair
71-Ruler
72-Tacks
Multimedia
73-Boombox
74-Cellphone
75-CD
76-Earphones
77-I-Pod
78-psp
79-Gameboy
80-Nitendo DS
81-Television
82-Stereo
83-Speaker
84-Video camera
Street models
85-Fire hydrant
86-Newspaper Box
87-Mailbox
88-Park Bench
89-Realstate Box
90-Street Light
91-Telephone Booth
92-Telephone pole
93-Trashcan
Vehicles
94-Armored Truck
95-B-52
96-Delivery Truck
97-Forklift
98-Ice Cream Truck
99-Mail Truck
100-Model T
101 -Segway
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