PROPOSAL for FUTURE HCR CHALLENGE: 30 Models in 30 days

#49

I agree, lets get started

#50

I agree with 20 models…After all its quality not quantity that counts.

Roberto - Are you the only on that will compile the list?

Good luck to everyone who joins and thanks to Roberto for this great competition:thumbsup:.

-Pdude

#51

Ok here is the plan I wll be posting the new challenge on Friday.

IF and only IF we get the logistics for this one in the can, we will do it.
If not, we will do a “traditional challenge” until we iron out the details.

Anyway here is the global list so far:
Animals
-Horse
-Hippo

Hardware

-Crowbar
-Screwdriver
-Hammer
-Screw
-Nail

Furniture
-Designer chair
-Desk

Forklift

Stereo
Tank
Ficus tree
Severed limb
Spine
Cow skull
Well
Submarine
Samurai armour
Brazier
Revolver
Brooch

Apartment block
Fire truck
Cardinal
B-52
Camel
Gargoyle
Toilet

Saddle
Monkey
Salmon
Squid

Toaster
Snail
Boot
Ornamental ring
Halberd

Eagle
Rib cage
Mona Lisa
Escalator
Fire escape
Dust mite
Satellite
Jam jar
Palm tree
Mushroom
Plaster bust
Suspension bridge
Rocket launcher

Engraved cupboard
Piano

Table
Axe
Headphones
Ballpoint pen
Tire iron
Book
Candelabra
Standard (flag)
Lectern
Scroll
Underwear

Swing

Sink

Money pouch
Manacles
Bullet
Kennel
Bow
Frying pan
Shield
Gibbet
Scissors
Tennis Racket
Bunsen burner
Wheelie bin
Power outlet

Art Supplies

Kitchen Supplies:
-Coffee mug
-Fork
-Spoon

Cannons
-Howitzer

Guns
-Bullet
-Dessert Eagle
-AK-47
-P-90
-Colt 45

  • M16
    -FAMAS
    -SIG 550
    -Browning 9
    -Walther P99
    -Luger
    -Uzi
    -Gatling gun
    -M4 carbine,

Swords
-Tanto
-Kitchen Knife
-Broadsword
-Dagger
-Katana
-Wakizashi
-Sabre
-Gladius
-Rapier
-Dao
-Lightsaber
-Scimitar
-Butterfly sword
-Longsword
-Machete
-Bayonet

Art materials
-Wodden Puppets
-Brush
-Eraser
-pen eraser
-Pencil
-Marker
-Oils Tube
-Easel
-Art table
-Stool
-X-Acto Knife
-pastels
-clayhammer
-Calligraphy Ink
-Calligraphy pen

Computer:

.-Monitor
-Keyboard
-sound card
-heatsink
-18mm fan
-optical mouse(transparent)
-monitor
-keyboard
-hard disk drive (open up)
-cpu casing
-.motherboard.

Street models
-Telephone pole
-Fire hydrant
-Street Light
-Telephone Booth
-Fire hydrant
-Newspaperbox
-Mailbox
-realstate box
-Trashcan

Multimedia
-earphones
-Ipod
-cellphone
-psp
-gameboy
-Nitendo DS
-Video camera
-CD
-Television
-boombox
-stereo
-speaker

Computers
-mouse
_Monitor
-Pc

Misc
Mechanical parts, Motorbike engine or carborator.

-Forklift

-RC cars or hovercrafts -
http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/egrandbuy/egrandbuygenesis5.jpg

Diamonds or a gem stone. - http://www.amgmedia.com/freephotos/DSCN0844.jpg

-Fruits - http://www.amgmedia.com/freephotos/DSCN3767.jpg
Pineapple
-vases - http://www.perfectdayflorist.net/nss-folder/pictures/Lenox%20Floral%20Vine%20Vase.JPG
Animals
-Fishes or sea creatures

-Optical illuisions - http://perdana.fsktm.um.edu.my/~mazliza/img/optical_illusion1.jpg
http://perdana.fsktm.um.edu.my/~mazliza/img/optical_illusion2.jpg
http://home.jtan.com/~febdian/funnypics/optical_illusion-impossible_geometry_(ascendin).jpg

http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/raidentech168/ballcar1.jpg
http://site.wonderhobby.com/sunfirenitrocar8.jpg
http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/raidentech168/bluehovercraft01.jpg
http://site.wonderhobby.com/hoverman7.jpg

Inventions - http://www.autoemirates.com/_Images/Classic/ConceptCar-Da-Vinci.jpg

Sections of architecture(not the whole pic ofcourse) - http://www.cherba.com/traumerei/images/20040310/20040310n.jpg

Instuments - http://www.jerkasmarknad.com/violin_strad.jpg

Or we could make a car or and object that will have all the mechanical parts and
each part will be modeled every day and at the end of the month we will have a
complete car or something else.

Just some thoughts

#52

Building on this idea can be never ending… the amount of different things we could do are many but I think for now we have to start simple… find out what works and what doesn’t.

We have established the fact that this is a good idea and can be a very good learning experience for most of us and that perhaps 30 models is a bit much… some people think that we should not know what we will model until the start of the challenge and some people think we should. Then there is onehotmouse’s idea which I like very much.

I think what we need to realise is that the first challenge using this idea may not be the best ideal challenge for everybody and that we can always fix what didn’t go to well and keep what did go well.

So, say the first challenge is a 20 models in one month challenge where roberto gives us the full list at the beginning of the challenge, then the next challenge could based on onehotmouse’s idea and then from their we can see what worked well and what didn’t. Perhaps after onehotmouse’s challenge we could do the interesting idea of building parts of car each day until we have an entire car.

Roberto your idea is really good, I think this competition could really help me,

Thanks

ZaneV

#53

I want to get the logistics in the can with this one so to speak, so I have decided to put forward a sort of outline for the challenge:
[u][b]

30 Day Hardcore Challenge[/b][/u]

Challenge Levels
The challenge is divided into three different sections (Roberto’s idea) to accomidate people who are busy and people who can’t create a model a day. This is also a great idea because hopefully we will see, as more of these challenges are completed, different members progressing through to the gold level because they are becoming faster modelers.

Platinum Challenge: [i]This challenge only has 15 models that are required to be completed, giving competitiors 2 days per model.

[/i]Silver Challenge:[i] This challenge has 20 models that are required to be completed, giving competitors 1 and a half days per model.

[/i]Gold Challenge: [i]This challenge has 30 models that are required to be completed, giving competitors 1 day per model.

[/i]The List of 30 Models

We have seen, two posts up, a very large list of models submited by Roberto. In this challenge Roberto chooses 30 models from his list, preferably not all in the same category (it would become more of a challenge to model some organic, some machinery and some sleek futuristic models etc.) At the beginning of the challenge, when it is announced Roberto lists the models under the Platinum, Silver and Gold challenges. Each challenge should have 10 models the same and gold and silver challenges should have 20 models the same.

Competitors Threads:

Competitors will create threads in the Hardcore Modeling Challenge forum and have a title which follows this template:

Template: HCR 30 Day Challenge: [challenge level] - [competitor name]
 Example: [u]HCR 30 Day Challenge: Gold - Zane

[/u]When each competitor completes the required model and posts it in there thread their post should follow a certain template to make it easier for voters when it is voting time. Bellow I have created a proposed template:

[u][i]Title of Model Completed

[/i][/u][i][Model Image]

Comments:

[/i][u][b]Dealing with time differences

[/b][/u]I think this will be the most difficult thing about this challenge, time zones. Australia is basicly a day ahead of america. I am not really good at working with time differences and stuff so I am wondering if there are any suggestions or if this problem has already been fixed in previous challenges.

[u][b]Judging Competitors:

[/b][/u]A voting system will still be used for this challenge just like all the traditional challenges. Roberto will annouce voting and list all competitors (divided into their specified challenge levels), which have completed the challenge succesfully. The listed names will be linked to their threads in this forums.

Under each challenge level (gold, silver and platinum) there will be different things by which people can give them a vote for, these things are:
(they are the same for each challenge level)

[ul]
[li] Best detailed models (The competitor that has the most detailed models)[/li][li] Models that are closest to reference (The competitor thats models are closest to provided reference material)[/li][li] Best renders (The competitors that have the best model renders)[/li][li] Best overall models (pretty much self explanitory)[/li][/ul]Once all of the voting has finished (one week for voting), Roberto will post the results like with the traditional challenges.

I hope I have covered everything the needs to be covered… please tell me what you think guys.

I think after a challenge like this we should do onehotmouse’s idea.

Thanks,

ZaneV

#54

I am sooo bored at work that this sounds like a good plan!

#55

oh man I can’t wait to start this! This sounds fun fun fun!

#56

oh, yeah :buttrock: starting on weekend, perfect!

#57

Ok Ill post the rules tonight.

-R

#58

As long as it’s not 11:59PM tonight! :smiley:

#59

Ok here is a draft…

The Hardcore Modeling MINI-Challenge #4: 30 Days, 30 Models
THE HARDCORE MODELING MINI-CHALLENGE!
30 Days, 30 Models
Sculpt up to 30 models in 1 month from the provided list.

There are TWO ways to participate:
Either:
[ul]
[li]PICK AND CHOOSE: [/li]You can pick whatever models you wish from the attached list at the end of this post
[li]DAILY MODEL THREAD:[/li]Wait for a Daily thread called thread called the DAILY MODEL and post on this thread the model selected for that day
[/ul]BOTH threads will reference the SAME model list, the intention is to fomment modellers to finish the highest number of finished entries.

THE CHALLENGE:___________________________

Sculpt up to 30 models in 1 month from the provided list. The idea of this “mini-challenge” is to simulate an impossible dateline for a project. The artists will have at their discretion how detailed the models they will be working on, if the models will be shaded, and the interpretation of what they should be modeling.

For example an entry might call for a duck, but the artist might sculpt a realistic fully shaded duck or decide to model a more simple toy rubber duck. The key is that the model HAS to be based on some sort of real life reference.

Challenge Levels
The challenge is divided into three different sections to accomidate people who are busy and people who can’t create a model a day. This is also a great idea because hopefully we will see, as more of these challenges are completed, different members progressing through to the Platinum level because they are becoming faster modelers.

Silver Challenge: This challenge only has 10 models that are required to be completed, giving competitiors 2 days per model.

Gold Challenge: This challenge has 20 models that are required to be completed, giving competitors 1 and a half days per model.

Platinum Challenge: This challenge has 30 models that are required to be completed, giving competitors 1 day per model.

CAN YOU DO IT?

What is the HARDCORE MODELING CHALLENGE?

The idea of these HARDCORE MINI CHALLENGES is to push the modeling skills participants while learning from the past. To get past preconceptions of the limits of digital art. To push digital artists into the world of sculptors & artisans. But we will have variety on these mini challenges. Sometimes we will sculpt a model based on a masterpiece, but on other times we might do Jet fighter or a landmark…

The only thing that will be consistent is the SHORT DATELINES.

At the end of the challenge, the participant should have a finished collection of entries. Keep in mind contest of high difficulty you will have ONE MONTH to do the challenge, but the rewards, even if you don’t win, will be your improved skills in speed and accuracy.

EVALUATION CRITERIA:______________________

Detailed RESEARCH, and attention to detail are key for ALL entries. Please before doing an entry do your homework.

The best model will be selected by an open vote
for these categories:
[ul]
[li]Most Accurate Model (Collection)[/li][li]Best Detailed Model (Collection)[/li][li]Best Render (Collection)[/li][li]Best Overall Collection[/li][li]Most Accurate Model (Individual)[/li][li]Best Detailed Model (Individual)[/li][li]Best Render (Individual)[/li][li]Highest Number of FINISHED models[/li][/ul]The winner will get bragging rights and a small banner
designed by me.

DATELINE: Monday September 25 th 12:00 PM

YOU HAVE One MONTH do the challenge.

CHALLENGE SPECIFIC RULES:
[ul]
[li]No work taken DIRECTLY from an existing tutorial. You may use an existing tutorial only for reference.[/li][li]You may NOT use a pre exiting models. All models must be done from scratch.[/li][li]An artist may change from PICK AND CHOOSE type of participation to DAILY MODEL THREAD whenever he or she wishes.[/li][/ul]GENERAL RULES:
[ul]
[li]For DAILY MODEL THREAD the model must have been done AFTER the topic has been announced.[/li][li]for PICK AND CHOOSE the selected models must have been done AFTER the topic has been announced.[/li][li]Becuase if the HUGE number of files WIP are NOT encouraged, only final entries[/li][li]WIP thread should be posted on the Hardcore Modeling Challenge forum and should follow[/li]the following naming convention: HARDCORE MODELING!: 30Days_30Models: <<TYPE OF ENTRY >>
[li]For each image you should post:[/li]
[u][i]Title of Model Completed[/i][/u]

[b][Model Images][/b]

Comments:
[/ul]And should be posted on both the individual WIP thread on on this master thread.
[ul]
[li]For each model 3 Orthographic renders ARE REQUIRED. These renders are for TOP, SIDE, BOTTOM views and a BEAUTY RENDER.[/li]
BEAUTY RENDER:

Final RENDERS should be rendered at 1600 X 1200 OR 1200 x 1600 in JPG format.(Post only as link) A smaller 800x 600 OR 600 x 800 image should be posted on the threads.

ORTHOGRAPHIC RENDERINGS:

Ortographic renderings ARE REQUIRED for EACH entry and should be rendered at 800 x 600 OR 600x800.

  • This means you need to submit renders of the from the Front, Sides (2), Back, Top and bottom.
    [li]TURNTABLE ANIMATION (VOLUNTARY).[/li]- I recomentd to aid the voters a turntable rendering of the model. It would have to be done in QuickTime or Windows Media at a resolution of 600 x 400 OR 300 x 200. The render might be done as a Quickshade or Beauty Render.
    [li]Please add a brief text description about your piece.[/li][li]The artist also has to post total length of time it took to do and program used.[/li][li]Future topics for hardcore Challenges will be picked at random from the list on[/li]this >>thread << (The author will be given credit). So guys keep them coming.
    [li]Post on this thread your link to your WIP thread and your FINAL piece.[/li][li]Only participants who follow the rules and submit a final entry will be eligible for the voting process.[/li][li]Any piece caught breaking the rules will be taken[/li]off the thread.
    [/ul][b]The models should be picked from the following list :

Art materials
1-Art table
2-Brush
3-Calligraphy Ink
4-Calligraphy pen
5-Clay Hammer
6-Easel
7-Eraser
8-Pencil
9-Pen Eraser
10-Marker
11-Oils Tube
12-Pastels
13-Stool
14-Wodden Puppets
15-X-Acto Knife

Animals
16-Horse
17-Hippo
18-Salmon
19-Snail
20-Squid

Bladed Weapons
21-Axe
22-Broadsword
23-Butterfly sword
24-Bayonet
25-Dagger
26-Dao
27-Katana
28-Kitchen Knife
29-Gladius
30-Lightsaber
31-Longsword
32-Machete
33-Rapier
34-Sabre
35-Sai
36-Scimitar
37-Tanto
38-Wakizashi

Boats & Ships
39-Paperboat
40-Speed Boat
41-Submarine
42-Small Sailboat
43-Tug

Cannons
44-Howitzer

Furniture
45-Designer chair
46-Desk

Guns
47-AK-47
48-Browning 9
49-Bullet
50-Colt 45
51-Dessert Eagle
52-FAMAS
53-Gatling gun
54-Luger
55-M4 carbine,
56-M16
57-P-90
58-SIG 550
59-Uzi
60-Walther P99

Hardware
61-Crowbar
62-Hammer
63-Nail
64-Screw
65-Screwdriver

Kitchen Supplies:
66-Coffee mug
67-Fork
68-Spoon

Office Supplies
69-Desk
70-Office Chair
71-Ruler
72-Tacks

Multimedia
73-Boombox
74-Cellphone
75-CD
76-Earphones
77-I-Pod
78-psp
79-Gameboy
80-Nitendo DS
81-Television
82-Stereo
83-Speaker
84-Video camera

Street models
85-Fire hydrant
86-Newspaper Box
87-Mailbox
88-Park Bench
89-Realstate Box
90-Street Light
91-Telephone Booth
92-Telephone pole
93-Trashcan

Vehicles
94-Armored Truck
95-B-52
96-Delivery Truck
97-Forklift
98-Ice Cream Truck
99-Mail Truck
100-Model T
101 -Segway
[/b]

#60

Sounds Good:thumbsup: , Lets get it started.

-Pdude

#61

If it is OK I am posting it officially Tonight

It’s definetly OK here. The sooner the better mate!

Is Washington D.C -5 GMT? I am trying to work out approx. what time you will post in aus time +10 GMT. If I am correct then if you post this challenge at 12:00 midnight sunday, it will be 2:00pm sunday afternoon here. Is that right?

Thanks,

ZaneV

#62

hey Roberto, whatever happend to the idea of not knowing what to model next day? or did i miss that in your rules!

also, i thought you would provide a specific list of things to model. this seems too open ended and looks more like a workshop(which is very usefull too) rather than a challenge. everyone is gonna model something different. since you took the idea from a workshop this is expected, but to make it into a challenge i believe there should be a goal; i.e. a goal list of models from day 1 to day 30 and we only know what to model for the next day.
the way it is now, people will model some of the harder thing for more than a day and then just show it in 1 day. the point of the challenge becomes mute here.

#63

fx81 - The idea of not knowing what to model the next day will be in the next challange, But in this challange there will still be no knowing what will be the next day but in this challange
Roberto posted a list which the models to be done are drawn from.
There are 3 categories Silver,Gold and Platinum and those 3 will have different models
so youll need to choose which one and the voting will be different for each category.
If people will model something and post it after 2 days then it will be visible, And even
if ppl will do that then it doesnt really matter because the point of the challange is
30 models 30 days so it doesnt matter if modeling something will take a day, two
or even an hours.

-Pdude

#64

You know ONE idea does not exclude the OTHER.

As long as the models come from the SAME list.

-R

#65

true, a workshop can become really interesting when its challenging.

but, when a challenge becomes more like a workshop i believe it becomes less challenging. unless of course its your intension to make this more of a workshop.

#66

I sorta see what you are trying to say, fx81, but I think you should just give this challenge a go and see for yourself wether or not it is a challenge. Then after the challenge we can go through what worked and what didn’t.

#67

Ok here is how we will do this.

[ul]
[li]The list WILL be posted so people can pick the models they want from the list[/li][li]But I will be SELECTING Daily one Item from the list, so those who want can do the workshop this way.[/li][/ul]This way we get the best of both worlds.

-R

#68

It is up!

The Hardcore Modeling MINI-Challenge #4: 30 Days, 30 Models

-R