PROJECT PHOENIX: FORUM LEADER'S Q&A

[mike33]

Answer: No. Modeling additions are still permitted to continue upto the night of the deadline, but only a final rendered image will qualify as a finished work on the 22nd. Contestants are required to submit WIPs in 3D by the 15th as a sort of milestone. Part of the judging criteria includes the involvement of the contestant in the contest community in addition to the final image. This contest also serves as a form of education for the community.

Individuals not submitting at least one test render or modeling wireframe by midnight March 15th PST will be disqualified.

Didn’t see this, I miss read the instructions and I thought I needed all my models done.

Oh well… it’s been a crazy week anyway…now I can explore the EI Modeler/EIAS tools I was trying to use on this piece without the rush…

well back to the day job…

Mike

[halfworld]

Sorry Brian, I didn’t make myself clear, what I meant to say was:

I’m having FoV anti-alias woes, can I render large and scale down rather then render at a higher anti-alias setting and send my render time into orbit (I have 10x multi-frame blur at the moment). So, in effect: Does scaling equate to manipulation?

Bon weekend!
Ian

[Vizfizz]

Sorry Brian, I didn’t make myself clear, what I meant to say was:

I’m having FoV anti-alias woes, can I render large and scale down rather then render at a higher anti-alias setting and send my render time into orbit (I have 10x multi-frame blur at the moment). So, in effect: Does scaling equate to manipulation?

Bon weekend!
Ian

As long as the original high resolution output was generated within EI I’m fine with you scaling something down. It would be a kin to scaling down a high resolution texture map for better optimization.

[yhloon]

Ok… let me clarify this. My biggest concern are indivduals using photoshop to touch up mistakes or to add/remove things that can’t be done in EIAS. Compositing layers together is permissable because some users have slower machines and lesser amounts of RAM and they need to composite their work together in stages. As long as you are not painting, using a special non-EIAS plugin, or any other tool that modifies the pixels (outside of compositing) you’re good. Using transfer modes between layers like add, lighten, darken, inverse, etc… are acceptable because they exist in EIAS. Masking is only acceptable if the mask was generated through EIAS as an alpha channel.

Hi Brian,

I’ve created some clouds from Dante and Dante-clouds shader, to generate the normal maps, but i’ve brighten the alpha channel (which is generate from EI) a bit just to make the clouds looks thicker, (I’ve do a lot of test on EI but couldn’t get the result I want, thats why I go for PS to brighten the alpha cahnnel…)

but from the message above… it seems that only alpha channel direct from EI is permitted…

am I disqualify from this contest…

anyway I’m still try to finish it before the deadline…

regards,
Loon

[Vizfizz]

1. The mask was originally generated in EI, so that qualifies.

2. The resulting alpha channel was then modified in a paint package by altering the levels to make the mask more opaque. The resulting image was then reutilized in EIAS. No direct painting manipulation was involved. Altering the histogram of an EI rendering is available within Electric Image through Northern Lights AG_Utilities shaders. Therefore it “could” be done in EIAS. If you possess those shaders, and failed to use them, I would disqualify you, but if you do not, I will permit your manipulation.

You may proceed to the final round provided you do not possess these shaders.

[Vizfizz]

Additionally…

Creating alpha channels is a common, required technique, for proper texture placement and construction. Normal map construction, I believe falls into that catagory. Since you were using the result to produce a normal map to reuse in EI, I can not see how you could not avoid using levels to obtain the proper results.

Northern Lights AG_Utlities aside… proceed to the finals.

[yhloon]

I don’t have AG utilities (I don purchase any 3 party shader yet, except the free download), I just drop into NL web site, just curious… how frequent do we use these shader? since we can modify the end result with Photoshop or AfterEffect…

regards,
Loon

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