Open Figure Drawing Workshop - NEW BARGUE - 022


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             [size=1]Banner render - Gio Nakpil

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[color=Orange]OFDW 022: Jan. 10, 2008 - Feb. 25, 2008
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Welcome to the Twentysecond thread of the Open Figure Drawing Workshop!

            This workshop is open to 2D Artists working digitally or traditionally. Some informal moderation will be gladly provided ~ however, the purpose of the Workshop is for Artists to interact with and informally critique one another’s work.
     
    [color=Orange][b] What is a Bargue Drawing?[/b]
     
     [>>>LINK<<<](http://www.learning-to-see.co.uk/bargue-drawings.html)
     
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Charles Bargue is a little known academic painter from 19th Century France. Under the auspices of art dealers Goupil and Cie (Vincent and Theo Van Gogh’s employers,) and along with Jean-Leon Gerome, he produced a series of two hundred or so lithographs, reproductions of which were circulated around the ateliers of the time for students to copy. Copying these drawings is supposed to teach the student about line and tone, how to create an illusion of three dimensional reality, and also to instil a sensitivity to classical beauty in painting and sculpture.

    [b]This Workshop is an update of the Bargue concept,[/b] which was to copy as accurately as possible the 2D Drawings of Charles Bargue et al. Instead of using Bargue's drawings as reference in this Workshop, we will be using Renders of 3D models, whose permission to use as reference was graciously provided by many CGTalk 3D Artists. 
   
   The goal of this Workshop is to practice shading and rendering skills in 2D. For this reason, in many cases I have requested permission to use renders of untextured models as reference.
                                                                    
               [color=Orange] The goal of this Workshop is to [b]COMPLETE [/b]one or more [b]FINISHED 2D Master Copies of the renders provided by CGTalk 3D Artists / Render Donors.[/b] The goal is to complete [b]QUALITY[/b] finished pieces based on the 3D Renders / Reference provided.
                          
                         [b] Reference Source: [/b]
                         
           Individual CGPortfolios and Websites
           
           [/color][b]******[/b][b]******PLEASE NOTE!!![/b][b]******[/b][b]******[/b]
            [b]
            The renders used as reference for this Workshop is COPYRIGHT the original artists. Permission has been obtained from individual 3D Artists to use only specific individual renders for this Workshop. Wherever you post your 2D copies from this Workshop (here on CGTalk, on your website, other forums, etc.) you MUST give credit to the original artist whose work you referenced!
       
       [/b][b] PLEASE NOTE that you may not just use any image from individual 3D Artist's CGPortfolios without permission. There is simply a ton of great reference available here, so I would ask that you use what is available and not request to use other work from these artists. 
  
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   [center][u][color=LemonChiffon][b]           [color=Orange]RULES FOR THE THREADS[/b][/color][/u][/color]
                                                     
                                                                                                    [left]1. [color=Orange][b]Renders are the property of the individual 3D Artists[/b] who generously gave permission to use their renders for reference in this Workshop. [b]ALL WORK IS COPYRIGHT THE ORIGINAL 3D ARTIST[/b] and [b]credit must be given to them wherever you post your copies![/b]
                                    
                                    [/color] 2. The drawings / paintings created from the 3D render reference provided here MUST be TASTEFUL,SINCERE, RESPECTFUL, and for the purpose of serious study of the human figure. Those who post silly, disrespectful, or tasteless work will have their posts deleted immediately and will no longer be allowed to post on this thread. 
                                    
                                     3. This Workshop will run from [b]Jan. 10, 2008 - Feb. 25, 2008.[/b]
                                    
                                     4. There is NO LIMIT to the NUMBER of posts an artist may make. However, we ask that you post only your BEST WORK, even if it is considered unfinished.
                                    
                                     5. Artists who post comments and critiques of other artists' work on this thread must be RESPECTFUL, POLITE, and offer CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM. Flaming will be NOT be tolerated, and constitutes dismissal from this and other threads.
                                    
                                     6. I will be offering the occasional comments / critique - however, the main focus of the Open Figure Drawing Workshop threads should be on Group Critique and interaction. :)
                                    
                                             7. ANY MEDIUM or STYLE may be used: Traditional or Digital Drawing or Painting. This Workshop is for 2D Artists only.
                                    
                                    8. Please limit the SIZE of your POSTS to 800 pixels WIDTH x Appropriate pixel LENGTH. No huge posts, please!
            
         9. [b]Please post your WIP and finished work to this thread.[/b] However, you are encouraged to also post your work to your Personal Sketchbook Thread if you already have one, or to create one if you do not, here:
            [](http://forums.cgsociety.org/forumdisplay.php?f=200)[[b]Personal Anatomy & Sketchbook Threads[/b]](http://forums.cgsociety.org/forumdisplay.php?f=200)
            [http://forums.cgsociety.org/forumdisplay.php?f=200](http://forums.cgsociety.org/forumdisplay.php?f=200)
                                    
                                                                           11. Have fun, enjoy, and create great art! :) 
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                                                  [size=3]PLEASE NOTE: WIP (Work In Progress) images are an important part of the OFDWs and are encouraged. [color=LemonChiffon][b]Please DO post WIP[/b] images as you work on your pieces. :)[/color][/size][size=2]
                         
                         [b][size=3][color=Orange]PLEASE NOTE THAT TRACING IS NOT ALLOWED! 
                        Tracing constitutes cheating on CGTalk, and traced work is not accepted into CGTalk's Galleries. Please freehand draw and paint. Use of a Grid is accepted. 
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                [http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=379951](http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=379951)
          
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          If you would like to see the finished work from previous OFDWs, look here:
          
          [[b]Links to all OFDW SPOTLIGHT Threads[/b]](http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=3462029&postcount=1)
          [http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpos...029&postcount=1](http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=3462029&postcount=1)
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[center]3D Render Reference Set 1:
All work is copyright the original 3D Artist and credit must be given to the individual artist wherever you post.

A big thank you to all of the render donors!

         [left][               username: [b]andreja [/b]| real name:  Andreja Vuckovic](http://andreja.cgsociety.org/gallery/) 
                                          [image link A](http://features-temp.cgsociety.org/gallerycrits/35380/35380_1188316187_large.jpg)
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        [left] [username: [b]Anandpg [/b]| real name: Anand Gopinath](http://anandpg.cgsociety.org/gallery/)
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         [left][username: [b]Antropus[/b] | real name:  Kris Costa](http://antropus.cgsociety.org/gallery/) 
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       [left][username: [b]canderled[/b] | real name:  damien canderle](http://canderled.cgsociety.org/gallery/490731/) [](http://www.maddamart.com/)
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          [left][                                    username: [b]cardboarddog[/b] | real name: ](http://cardboarddog.cgsociety.org/gallery/)[James Busby](http://cardboarddog.cgsociety.org/gallery/) 
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      [left][username: [b]drummer [/b]| real name:  Marco Menco](http://drummer.cgsociety.org/gallery/) 
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      [left][username: [b]fx81 [/b]| real name: Mashru Mishu](http://fx81.cgsociety.org/gallery/) 
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   [center][b]3D Render Reference Set 2:[/b]
 All work is copyright the original 3D Artist and credit must be given to the individual artist wherever you post.
 
 A big thank you to all of the render donors! 
 
 
                 [img]http://anatomy.cgnetworks.com/This%20Aint%20Yo%20Mamas%20Barque%20Web/10_TAYMB_gio.jpg[/img]
           [img]http://anatomy.cgnetworks.com/This%20Aint%20Yo%20Mamas%20Barque%20Web/11_TAYMB_gio.jpg[/img]
             
             [left][username: [b]gio [/b]| real name:  Giovanni Nakpil](http://www.gionakpil.com/) 
                       [image link A](http://www.gionakpil.com/detailman1.jpg)
                       [image link B](http://www.gionakpil.com/caveman1.jpg)- Note: image based on Jordu Schell's sculpture
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        [left][username: [b]Grassetti [/b]| real name: Rafael Grassetti](http://grassetti.cgsociety.org/gallery/)
                                   [image link A](http://features-temp.cgsociety.org/gallerycrits/258632/258632_1199033319_large.jpg) [(original concept by Bjorn Hurri)](http://www.bjornhurri.com/sb/08/February/die_concepte2.jpg)
                                   [image link B](http://features-temp.cgsociety.org/gallerycrits/258632/258632_1197838834_large.jpg)
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            [img]http://anatomy.cgnetworks.com/This%20Aint%20Yo%20Mamas%20Barque%20Web/13_TAYMB_harshdesign.jpg[/img]
        
        [left][username: [b]harshdesign [/b]| real name: Harsh Borah](http://harshdesign.cgsociety.org/gallery/)
                                  [image link A](http://features-temp.cgsociety.org/gallerycrits/46493/46493_1160956898_large.jpg)
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            [img]http://anatomy.cgnetworks.com/This%20Aint%20Yo%20Mamas%20Barque%20Web/14_TAYMB_Intervain.jpg[/img]
        
        [left][username: [b]Intervain [/b]| real name:  Magdalena Dadela](http://intervain.cgsociety.org/gallery/) 
                                  [image link A](http://features-temp.cgsociety.org/gallerycrits/149046/149046_1197686435_large.jpg)
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            [img]http://anatomy.cgnetworks.com/This%20Aint%20Yo%20Mamas%20Barque%20Web/15_TAYMB_JBoskma.jpg[/img]
        
        [left][username: [b]JBoskma [/b]| real name:  Jelmer Boskma](http://jboskma.cgsociety.org/gallery/) 
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            [img]http://anatomy.cgnetworks.com/This%20Aint%20Yo%20Mamas%20Barque%20Web/16_TAYMB_kissb.jpg[/img]
        
        [left][username: [b]kissb [/b]| real name:  Balazs Kiss](http://kissb.cgsociety.org/gallery/526067/) 
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        [left][username: [b]kolakis [/b]| real name:  Julianna Kolakis](http://kolakis.cgsociety.org/gallery/)                      
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       [left][username: [b]plunq [/b]| real name:  Joel Mongeon](http://plunq.cgsociety.org/gallery/)
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[center]3D Render Reference Set 3:
All work is copyright the original 3D Artist and credit must be given to the individual artist wherever you post.

A big thank you to all of the render donors!

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[img]http://anatomy.cgnetworks.com/This%20Aint%20Yo%20Mamas%20Barque%20Web/20_TAYMB_pum.jpg[/img]

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username: pum| real name: Herbert Lowis
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[left]username: Quadart | real name: Bill Melvin
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[left]username: vladiseco | real name: Vladimir Minguillo
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#5

A big thank you to gio for being the first render donor for the Workshop! :slight_smile:

This is a great chance for 2D Artists to work from some of the best 3D renders around. Hope to see a lot of participation in this one!

PLEASE NOTE that you may not just use any image from individual 3D Artist's CGPortfolios without permission. There is simply a ton of great reference available here, so I would ask that you use what is available and not request to use other work from these artists. Thanks!

Examples of traditional Bargue drawings may be found here.


#6

Reserved for links


#7

rubs eyes

another OFDW, yay!

wow, beautiful renders!

keeps an eye on his fingers so he does not make any statement about participation even though…

:smiley:


#8

I’m so in :D:bounce:


#9

Hi Rebecca,

so are 3d ppl who uses 2d medium as well (traditional or digital) excluded from this workshop?

cheers,
Marco


#10

Of course not. :slight_smile: This workshop is for anyone who wishes to use the 2D medium - be it traditional or digital. It doesn’t matter to me whether your primary mode of working is 2D or 3D - in the past, the OFDWs have attracted mainly 2D people, and so I invited Intervain to create 3D specific Workshops, which you are more than welcome to participate in also. :slight_smile: This workshop however is primarily 2D. Hope to see your work!


#11

thats good news :slight_smile: i am definitely in.
good luck to all.
Marco


#12

Mu, Intervain, and evilmaul, it’s great to see some early takers! :slight_smile: I think this is an amazing chance to work from some beautiful work. I’m pretty stoked, hoping to get in some work later on tonight.


#13

oh, let’s do this thing :slight_smile:


#14

hey Rebbecak, post this on conceptart.org, I’d love to see some of those freaks try this out!


#15

Done, and done. :wink: Hoping the “freaks” (probably a little tired from the workshop, like me :D) will come out in droves once they’re sufficiently recovered from Seattle. Feel free to do a little pimpage, though. :slight_smile: I’d like to keep the Workshop only here, though, due to the fact that copyrighted images are involved, etc.


#16

Two questions:

  1. In the case I think some spots of one of the renders should look different, am I free to make some minor changes? (of course that would be my humble opinion about the art, all images are top notch!)

  2. Can I work in pencil only? Would that be considered unfinished? I ask this because the “draw and paint” item in the rules.

I’m a 3d guy mostly, but I have learned to draw way before I started with 3D. Still, I got stuck with pencils, never got any further. So I wouldnt be able to paint and it would really great to finally participate in one of this threads.


#17

Yep, feel free to take liberties, :slight_smile: I am using the term “Bargue” here pretty liberally. Mainly I’m just interested in seeing artists who participate use the 3D render reference for great lighting and form ref, and the rest is up to you. For beginners (that’s not necessarily you), I think it’s best to stick as close to the reference as is possible. Obviously the goal if you are interested in really learning how to render is to most closely match the ref without tracing, color sampling, etc. I myself don’t plan to try to match pore for pore, but just try painting from several different images to see how close that I can get. I may end up doing a bunch of unfinished studies in addition to hopefully some more polished work. :slight_smile:

  1. Can I work in pencil only? Would that be considered unfinished? I ask this because the “draw and paint” item in the rules.

Yep, this Workshop is open to both digital and traditional work.

I’m a 3d guy mostly, but I have learned to draw way before I started with 3D. Still, I got stuck with pencils, never got any further. So I wouldnt be able to paint and it would really great to finally participate in one of this threads.

I think that’s great, we’ve had traditional work in previous Workshops and I really don’t mind at all. :slight_smile: I think whatever helps you to better see / observe is relevant to CG, so pencil draw away to your heart’s content, and post your work here. :slight_smile:


#18

Wow, it’s been a while since we’ve had a 2D one (or I’ve just been missing them). Good timing, as I’m about to start working on some plates a friend let me scan. The renders provided look great, and I’ll happily try one or two. I’ll be posting both here and on CA.org.


#19

This is a great exercise and I can’t wait to see the results that come out of this! I will be watching this thread closely.


#20

Pameljoel, welcome!

Good to have you aboard! :slight_smile: I’ve not run a free Workshop in a year, and so am stoked to see what will happen with this one.

dansgarbage, great, hope that you will participate!