Open Figure Drawing Workshop - Mixed Masters - 020

#381

Here’s an update. I’m beginning to add some warmth to the color, though overall, it’s still too light in value. I’m still refining - made some changes to the ear and shading on the neck. I’m thinking my copy makes the model look a little more like a 40’s movie star than Leighton’s painting. I can’t quite figure it out - any insights?

I haven’t done a master copy an ages and I forgot how much fun it is and how much there is to learn from it.

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#382

AztcFireFlower, Mal-1: Thank you!

Here is After 003 stage 3:

Not long to go before she’s done.

#383

Phew harder than I thought! I have tried to avoid details as much as possible up to this stage. Any tips please? (VERY MUCH NEEDED!!!)

I must comment that even though my image is not as good as the ones shown here, I am learning A LOT by doing this, rather than learning half-assedly. I will try my best to try and make it as accurate as possible, in both colour and form.

#384

i haven’t been around for a week or so, had to get my last 2 exams out of the way first…i came back and found GREAT stuff here! way to go everyone!
so here’s an update finally, done with my brand new sparkling wacom tablet! yay x-mas!!! :smiley:

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#385

amaryllis, welcome to CGTalk and to the Anatomy Forum! :slight_smile: Some very nice work so far, I’m glad you’re enjoying the Workshop!

This is a frequently asked question and I should have posted this at the beginning of the thread or as a Sticky a long time ago, but I’ve finally gotten around to it here:

How Do I Go From Grayscale to Color?
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=4088712#post4088712

I hope this helps!

I’m sure we all may be a little MIA over the holiday break, but happy holidays everyone and keep posting if you are able! :slight_smile:

EDIT: Dark3D, great to see you back here, and I really like your new direction! The linework on the piece you just posted is really nice - it describes the volume really well in a nicely direct way. :slight_smile:

Cheers,

-Rebeccak

#386

Well, another painting, this one kinda quick in artrage.

vivien82 - Nice work, what kinda of tablet did you get? My wife bought me a Wacom 6 x 11 intuos 3, I think its hiding somewhere, I have to wait till Christmas…

#387

Fl3wk, I think at this stage you seem to be getting overwhelmed by the color - I think the key thing to do is to simplify each hue you are using into their value and saturation scales - using the hues you’ve selected, for example, red, try creating a limited value range for that red - a light, mid tone, and dark red - create solid, 100% opacity swatches for these - and do that for every hue you are using.

This color theory post may be of use:

Color Theory Principles

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[left]Try not to get overwhelmed by everything at once - remember that form is just comprised of light, midtone, shadow, and reflected light. This doesn’t change with the addition of the factor of color, it just becomes another item to juggle when putting together your painting. That’s where choosing a simplified range of swatches per hue can help you with blocking in your painting. Once you’ve blocked things in, you can then sample your canvas (while in brush mode, alt + click your canvas to temporarily turn your brush into the eyedropper tool) and begin to get some subtlety to your blending.

Hope this helps! :slight_smile:
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#388

After 003 final stage:
I guess she’s done. This time I put on more of the forger’s mind; still an exact copy was not my intention.

About this copy:

As before it is all eye-balled.

No grid system was used.

No painting over a master layer. Just the original on the left and my copy on the right.

No greyscale underpainting, just final colours.

This time it was much faster, taking less than 10 hours over four sessions.

The main thing I learned this time:

If my imagination approaches this master, I would be considered one also in about 500 years.

Think about it; this painting is of a woman standing in a cave with a small hole in the roof where the shaft of light lights her up at the water’s edge, with a trickling waterfall behind her. She wears nothing but a fine cotten open weave cloth. If this was painted live, she would have caught her death of a cold after this commission. :slight_smile:

#389

vincent1 Well done!

#390

Aztec FireFlower…HEY …THANK YOU…:slight_smile: …I usually don’t blend my brushstroks when I paint.
That Ingres portrait was a real challenge for me to try something new,…BLENDING…The only way to get those subtle color changes happening in his paintings I think…that and having all the right colors laid down in the right places to begin with…Was a real test in close observation…:scream:

Vincent…Yours came out BEAUTIFUL…JUST PLAIN OLD EYEBALLING, is the best way to really learn to SEE…A lot harder than other methods that the computer afords, but the results pay off ten fold in knowlage gained I think…and the rewards are much more satisfying in the end also…I eyeballed mine also,COLOR AND ALL …was tempted to check it with an overlay for accuracy, but opted for the old fashioned way of just eyeballing and forcing my eyes to really see what is actually there…:slight_smile:

F13wk / Andrew…The key to getting a likeness, is to really get the distances between forms,…starting with the eyesockets, their relationship or distance from bottom of chin and top of forhead,…then the distances and angles of the smaller forms, such as nose, lips, cheek bones, ect…kind of working your way outward from the center spot between the eyesockets…and really getting all of the distances and angles right between forms as you work your way outward from the central access of the face.
Start with big generalized strokes to decribe the forms,…then work into smaller brushstrokes
as you go along and refine the bigger brushstrokes…by changing the size of your brush, in the BRUSH CREATOR section in painter…Just leave a little bit of that menu showing behind your painting, and when you touch it with your pen,…it will appear on top of your painting…
ajust your brush size…then touch the edge of your painting , and the painting will reappear, and the BRUSH CREATOR menu will go behind it once more,…until you bring it up again, by touching it with your pen…
You want your color wheel seperate from the the brush creator menu…just put it somewhere on top of the original painting, or wherever you like, so you can chose your colors as you paint your strokes.
Hope this helps you a little…there are probably a lot of other ways, but that is how I do my painting…:slight_smile:
GREAT JOB SO FAR BY THE WAY…AND THAT GOES FOR EVERYONE …:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

#391

dark3D: it’s a graphire4 A6 format…the bigger formats get too expensive for my poor student pockets :smiley: but it is really excellent! for now i can only dream of buying myself an intuos!! lucky you, have fun with it! :smiley:

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#392

zhay13 - beautiful copy of the Ingres drawing! I don’t know how you manage to keep the proportion together without some initial reference sketching. I’m impressed!

vincent1 - So nicely done! You’re right - if that model was in a cave she would be a lovely shade of blue…

F13wk - I’m wondering if some skeletal structure would be helpful. Sometimes the underlying form can get lost in the kind of amorphous lights and darks. I need to have some sense of what the light and shadow is referencing underneath the skin surface.

vivien82 - Terrific start on the Ingres painting. I am appreciating the different ways each of us is going at these copies.

Dark3D - Lovely quick sketch. I think if we can see quickly in the beginning - if we choose to do a longer study it’s all right there. The quick ones are very good practice. You’re going to love your Wacom. Lucky you!

Update
Everytime I think I’m done, I see more I need to work on. Rebecca - thanks for the tips. It made a big difference. I was having a hard time getting the values as dark as they needed to be, and this helped a lot. I think this is done - or close to it.

#393

rebecca: let me know if i’m posting too many images!..
amaryllis: thank you! i agree with you, it’s great to see all the different workflows!

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#394

vincent-1 - that’s really beatiful!

vivien82 - love the hair and the bow on top - they look really shiny!

well I’ve had my break I think and I’ve abandoned the second Ingres after all :slight_smile: - no patience for another dress… Instead I’ll try doing a Leighton in the few days left…

Only just started - a few hours work so far as I had no time to do any more… So I do know a lot is off… I just want to show that I am doing something :slight_smile: This one’s being modeled in xsi from scratch. This is only the base mesh which will eventually go into zbrush - soon hopefully :slight_smile: Will correct all the flaws in due time :slight_smile:

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#395

Great work everybody. I’ve been polishing my work a bit more. (His right leg is too short - have to fix that later).

#396

Another quick one, this one using my new Christmas tablet, an Wacom 8x11. Yay!

#397

Dark3D - there’s nothing like a lovely tablet, heh? good one :thumbsup: though her lower body seems short…

battle812 - nice, keep going!!

here’s my update on the Leighton:
the base of the head is done, the clothes need to be finished [since I want to make a bust stand for her :)] for now I’m off to start zbrushing :smiley:

HAPPY HOLIDAYS EVERYONE!

#398

wow.Great work everybody.

Intervain-Beautiful model.

My other side are bad:sad:
my update

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#399

HuiTzu - that’s great! Her face’s awesome - especiallythe lips! - I know what you mean, it’s so hard to get it to fit the image and still look relatively real from other sides since many artists just take a lot of licence with their anatomy and poses… sometimes they are simply impossible in real life but look so good in 2d :smiley: I think you’re doing an awesome job!

#400

woohah… amazing works from everybody…
I’m sort of finishing mine now…

greyscale

colorized.( it was fun to try new technique)

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL AND GOD BLESS YOU! ( dont forget baby jesus! )