Open Figure Drawing Workshop 019 - The Awakening of the Underground Giant


#261

mazalo
wow great idea! maybe add more to the sides so both his hands are clearly visible? giving him claws or something that looks dangerous could add a lot more drama

Rebeccak

omg this must have taken a while for you to comment on all of us
thanks for the good advice concerning “elongating” the figures.
I’ve changed my canvas to A4 sized which is more appealing to the eye - someone mentioned this here as a crit to someone else but it’s good advise for me just as well.

PureGhostGR

Thanks, glad you like the figures. I will try to impress even more and improve them a lot (they need it :wink: )

Here’s an update on one of the victims anatomy. I hope I can post an update on all the others as well soon (being sick sux)

before Rebecca’s valuable critics:

After:

I used reference from Ben Miller at DeviantArt to get the anatomy more accurate

Thanks again y’all and keep going you rock!


#262

Hi Ho

Architectus: I also vote for the spearman (you know, archers are cowards :slight_smile: ). And maybe a more “evasive” pose would fits better to the giants crushing killing smashing stance, but it’s just an idea. I’m really impressed by your amazing speed and unfailing enthusiasm. Keep it the way it is.

Hauntedminds: I love this one. It’s really refreshing to see such a nice theme among all those dark or cruel beasts. Only those little guys with big feather trying to tickle him in a nose is missing :). Very good.

Mazalo: I liked it more the way it was, not so brownish. I would like it even more with some basic color tinge. Anyway it is very dynamic with those confident strokes of brush. I hope I will be also able to paint like this some day.

PureGhostGR: The change of her hairs was just what it needed. She gets much more lightness. Maybe more of it could be achieved by hiding her feet in a rarefied cloud or some kind of mist. But, well, Rebecca has the point with the missing theme. But I’m sure you will figure something out.

Well and something from me

It was one hell of a drawing sickness. I have been thinking about this “comparing thing” and tried to compare the giant to viewer of the image by adding the foreground plane and thus use a lot of perspective. I’m planing to work more on its right side, to add some big object maybe or something. Will see. Also it looks little “overstuffed” so I’m playing with idea to rise the top and make the giant stand (but i like the idea that even though the whole city fits in a cave he must kneel) with a lot of free space ( or not so detailed space) to couterbalance the bottom. But maybe the colors will do the trick or maybe it wont cause trouble on full size (I am heading for A3 format). But what I am really glad of is the photoshop. This is a wonderful piece of code and with wacom it is, well, can’t find words. At first a was disapointed by my clumsiness but after some time i get used to it and now i can’t do anything but praise it. I’m really enjoying the detailing works which were impossible at this level with traditional medias at least for me.

Please post any suggestions and advices that will cross your mind.

Keep your engines running :slight_smile:


#263

NR43 said

I used reference from Ben Miller at DeviantArt to get the anatomy more accurate
Quite happy to have helped, thanks for the opportunity,


#264

Participation is ramping up even more, great to see! Very minor update from me, in response to your valuable crit observations Rebeccak:

Appreciate the feedback alot, if the left leg still looks funky as far as length please let me know. Still blocking in the right leg so it doesn’t look very different but I’ll see what I can do to make the lengthening more obvious if necessary. Also need to add an object / feature for scaling reference, to imply size but unsure of where or what I’ll do in that regard. Keep working guys, some good things emerging and it’s always really good watching the process of others. I’ll save any crits for a subsequent post, right now you guys have it all well covered!


#265

Hi…Shaolin 7…:applause:

REALLY like the atmosphere your creating…can almost breath the air in your painting…:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn


#266

Vidar3d I am guessing because of the ha’nephilim on the females shield, that this is the grave-yard of the Nephilim in genesis 6. If so we know from numbers that the Anakim are of the original Nephilim,and OG was one of them, and his bed was made of steel and was 14 feet long. This gives us some idea how tall the Nephilim might have been. He does not look to far in the distance, so maybe make him a tad taller, unless you are going for about 9 feet. Cool idea.

pureghost, thanks, yeah I think I like the guy with a spear better as well, I will be working on a new pose for him. As for clouds try custom made brushes to lay down the foundation.

knedlo, hey I like your drawing, this type of fun world art has always been enjoyable to me, I cannot wait to see how the giant will look in this style. Yeah, the archer is out, however what about the archer from LOTR, he was not so much of a wimp.

rebeccak - herethis should be the Boris painting you were thinking of. I am not sure if I like the backround though. Besides I wanted to convey that he is coming out of the ground, I have not completely decided how to do that yet. Maybe volcano, then I would add the cools to the top and warms to the bottom. or a hint of a pit.

I prefer to draw in tradition medium, however my scanner broke a while ago and I have not had a chance to replace it yet. Besides digital sketching serves the purpose because I am just going to paint over it.

the story is still the same, the warrior seeks to find the legend of the sleeping giant, awake and destroy him. The giant feels the power of the warrior and it wakes him up. The giant equally wants a challange. This motif appears through out ancient mythology. Well not so much the sleeping part. Like Enkidu and Gilgamesh, and the some what sleeping giant they go search out and destroy. This story if found in the Epic of Gilgamesh, I think around tablet 7.

hmmm, now that I think about it, that would have been an awsome painting to do. Gilgamesh and Ekidu fighting the awakened forrest giant.

I was the last poster so I will just edit to add my update. Refining the overall image, I think the giant is about finished, unless there are some recomendations. You can see his cave off in the distance that he woke up from.

I am not sure what to clothe the warrior in. I was thinking a native thong, lace type shoes, and maybe warrior body paint.


#267

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[left]mazalo, it might be nice to see the upper left area of the canvas resolved - currently that area seems pretty empty and the weight of the composition unbalanced. Perhaps slightly changing the stance of the giant would help - as well I think that your composition is very centralized so I would suggest changing your canvas size so that the viewer has more things over which to let their eyes roam. :slight_smile:

NR43,

Thanks for the feedback, and I appreciate your comments. :slight_smile: I think your figure is definitely improved, and it would be great to see the same refinement for all the figures in your piece. Definitely look at classical greek and roman sculpture groups for inspiration. Take for example the Laocoon group ~ figurative work has ages of precedent, and though we’re working digitally here, the same principles remain the same. Looking forward to more updates!

Knedlo,

Wow, quite an update - the detailing thus far is really strong. :slight_smile: I look forward to your rendering of the giant.

Ben / justmeina,

Welcome! :slight_smile:

Shaolin7,

Looking forward to seeing the next update - the detailing of the cave should be quite cool, and I think that a scale reference object will make all the difference to the ‘wow’ factor.

architectus,

Ah, thanks for the image link - are you using that as the basis for your inspiration? :slight_smile: I quite like the detailing work you’ve done on the normal man’s back - but I think that the giant needs a lot more work and detailing. The upper body, head, and arms are not yet convincing - and the smaller man is more detailed, despite the fact that the giant is really the focus. I would love to see you finish the giant to a high degree of detail and to work out the proportional issues - perhaps it would help to take a picture of yourself or of a friend in the same pose. :slight_smile:

Cheers,

-Rebeccak

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#268

here is another progres…


#269

Another small and confused update:

I have tried to show the concept of the dawn comming out of a the mountains a bit better. I would like to show the twisting movement and the change a bit more clear, but I am still working on the how. I have increased the canvas for the fabrics that will be a symbol for the night passing and the sun emerging from the mountains.

I think I should start working on the skin of the figure now and try to apply more shadows everywhere.

Rebeccak
Thank you for your feedback. I was so caught up with the clouds and the colors, I lost track of the underground part of the theme. I would like to show a subtle ‘emerge’ from the ground if possible for the dawn. I have tried to show movement with the light and the clouds in the last draft so as to suggest rather than portray the movement of the sun rising from the mountains. Please tell me if you find that to be acceptible given the logic of my concept over the theme.

mazalo
This is turning out increadible! I should really learn from your shading and use of color. The last version you posted looks very powerful and the changes with the new face are very expressive. I think I like the stone circle in the previous version a bit more because it gave me the feeling of being inside an underground temple of sorts. Also I think you would benefit if you placed the new left arm of the giant (our right) facing upwards towards the ceiling (like trying to reach out?). Just an idea.

Knedlo
I like the idea of the giant being on his knees. It underlines the fact that everything is underground and in my opinion and also it looks like the giant is watching over the village as a protector of sorts. I can already imagine a version of the circular buildings and their lattern lighting, which makes me feel that this will turn out beautiful.

Shaolin7
Very expressive and emotional work. I simply love it. There are so many details visible on the rocks and this is still a work in progress! The only constructive comment I can provide is about the horn/wing on the far back. Something about it’s placement troubles me in relation to the front one. Maybe it should be moved a bit lower? Again, just a suggestion.

architectus
Thank you for the suggestion with the brushes. I really should try to make some of my own at some point.
The update is looking great! (and what speed!) The muscle structure of the human figures back is brilliant! Keep up the great work!


#270

PureGhostGR: thanks…well, I tryed that with the hand up before ( see the picture) but i decided not to go with that…:slight_smile:


#271

sorry here isd the picture i was saying in the last post

…later…got some problems with photo bucket…:slight_smile:


#272

here is the latest…and that is all for today…

…I worked on background and the floor…add new hornes…
…and I think that it is geting close to finish…


#273

Sept 3, 2006

Hi Rebecca
I don’t think this concept and painting can be done with a traditional painterly look. Seems to lose the magic the more I paint it the way I think that you think it should be painted…
What do you think? I like the top one best. closer to the vision I envision. Open for suggestions from you and anyone else
TAKE CARE
Glenn


#274

spirit dreaming I like the bottom one.

Alright thanks everyone, I think I am about ready to call this finished. I might add some bright highlights to the spear, I do not want to over work the rocks, because I do not want them to distract the eye. I want the eye to go between the giant and the warrior.

I do not like the upper part of his face. I might completely redue that. I think some of the abs might need more highlights. I will look it over and see what needs to be fixed up here and there, but I am not going to spend to much more time on it. I will wait to see if there are any last ideas before I work on it more.


#275

Hi

mazalo: Well it seems the background made all the diference. Very nice.

spiritdreamer: I like the second one most, but also the first one. Maybe some combination of those. Those blured hairs looks great. It’s up to you.

architectus: Very well refined. Giant’s pectoral muscles seems a bit odd to me, but i supose you used some reference for it, so it probably be all right. Anyway great piece.

And for my image. I’ve finally sketched the giant and he’s in a grat shape it seems :). I don’t want to refine him till I get some feedback, so please make any suggestions, especially paintovers will be appreciated. I can see his head is too small and this will be overdone and also the sleeping face is too relaxed paying attention to him bearing such a weight. Well here it is.


#276

hi Rebeccak
after studying your repaint carefuly I decided to start over from scratch…and I just keep wondering how much help looking at a reference photo is… (I had to get one of justmeina´s in the end as none of my friends would pose for me):slight_smile:
I´d like to add more life to the image - perhaps some birds and scared shepherd running away. I also think the giant still does’t look evil enough…
Thank you thousand times for making me redraw this:thumbsup:

Knedlo: welcome,good to see more czech participation here:thumbsup: can’t wait to see yours done, I really like your drawing and sense of detail (wish I could draw like that…), but I can´t give you any comments or crits as I´m fairly new to this myself. well,later


#277

You are right about the abs on my giant, the upper ads to twist a bit to match the chest, I should fix it.

Here are a few of my ideas. His right arm seems to far out, which would be unconfurtable to hold something like that, so I moved it in a bit. I tilted his head down, although I did not draw the face to match the angle corretly, but you get the idea. I dig your drawing a lot. Would be very cool to see it painted with lots of bright colors, purples, greens, it reminds me of that type of art.

click here is one of the artist I had in mind.

hladek, maybe add some more little roots to the tree and dirt chuncks, and have a few of the little roots still in the ground. also perhaps a few roots on the giant as rebeccak recomended. I running away person would be cool.


#278

spiritdreamer: I think that the top one looks better :slight_smile:

knedlo: the drawing looks nice…be carefull with the colors and the painting :slight_smile:


#279

Sept 4, 2006
AWAKENING EARTHSPIRIT / SPIRIT EARTH

On my painting. my thought is to take it back to the very beginning,…to a time before there were gods created by men, and who KILL, THINK, AND ACT like men do…
I want to take it back to when there was only the MOTHER… EARTH
CREATOR AND KEEPER OF …LIFE…ONLY ONE ORIGINAL…EARTH SPIRIT…
IT IS SPIRIT EARTH
PREDATES THEM ALL

DONE

Take Care
Glenn


#280

l will end my ref soon, and then l will begin to paint portrait …