Now OPEN!!! Open Figure Drawing Workshop with Hong Ly and Rebecca Kimmel 003



            [/b][/color] [left]Welcome to the THIRD thread of the [b]Open Figure Drawing Workshop!!! [/b]I am truly excited about this, and am very grateful to good friend and old Art Center chum [color=PaleGreen][b]Hong Ly,[/b] with whom I spent many hours in the Open Figure Drawing Workshops from 6:45 - 9:00 pm back in our art school days. 
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I had the idea for this thread, but was unsure how to procure decent photographs ~ but, having reconnected with Hong in LA during SIGGRAPH after many years, I discovered that he was an accomplished photographer who already had taken model reference photos for use on his website, dedicated to [color=LemonChiffon]Character Art and Design,[color=#fffffe] at which Hong is an accomplished professional. It is lucky for us here at CGTalk that Hong has agreed to be a part of this community and to allow us to use his photographs as model reference. Thank you very much, Hong! :slight_smile:

            [/color][/color] [b][color=Yellow][u]>>RULES FOR THE THREADS<<[/u]
            [/color][/b] [left]1. Photographs are the property of Hong Ly and are copyrighted as such.
               2. Photographs are [color=PaleGreen][b]NOT[/b] to be used for [b]ANY[/b] other purpose apart from Figurative Drawing Reference for[b] this thread[/b] on CGTalk.  
             3. The drawings created from the photo reference provided here [b]MUST [/b]be[b] TASTEFUL,[/b][b] SINCERE, RESPECTFUL, [/b]and for the purpose of serious study of the human figure. Those who post silly, disrespectful, or tasteless work will have their [b]posts deleted immediately
           [/b][/color]and will no longer be allowed to post on this thread. Hong Ly, Rebecca Kimmel, and Roberto Ortiz reserve the right to determine which drawings are considered to be in poor taste and / or disrespectful to the model/s, who have generously agreed to allow their images to be used on the condition that they be used for the tasteful and [color=LemonChiffon][b]serious study of Figurative Art only.  [/b][/color]
             4. There is[b] [color=PaleGreen]NO TIME LIMIT[/b] for posting on this thread. 
  1. New threads containing new photographs will be posted on a bi-weekly basis, depending on the number of photographs available.

             6. There is [b]NO LIMIT [/b]to the [b]NUMBER [/b]of posts an artist may make. However, we ask that you post only [b]your[/b] [b]BEST WORK,[/b] even if it is considered unfinished.
             7. Artists who post comments and critiques of other artists' work on this thread must be [b]RESPECTFUL, POLITE, [/b]and offer [b]CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM.[/b] [b]Flaming [/b]will be [b]NOT [/b]be tolerated, and constitutes dismissal from this and other threads.
  2. Hong Ly has generously offered his time to critique work on occasion; however, with a full-time job and a demanding schedule, he will not be able to answer everyone’s requests for assistance. He has agreed, however, to stop by the threads when he has time to offer comments and critique. Hong is a great guy and incredibly generous ~ however, please respect his time. I will also be offering the occasional comments / critique ~ however, the main focus of the Open Figure Drawing Workshop threads should be on Group Critique and interaction. :slight_smile:

           9.[b] ANY MEDIUM [/b]or [b]STYLE[/b] may be used: Traditional or Digital Drawing or Painting, Gestural, Sketch, Finished Render, etc.
    1. EDIT: 3D Artists who wish to use the reference for 3D models are free to do so. I just ask that you post your work here as well as in any 3D forum in which you post your work.

    2. Please limit the SIZE of your [color=PaleGreen]POSTS [/color]to [color=PaleGreen]600 pixels WIDTH[/color] x Appropriate pixel LENGTH. No huge posts, please!

    3. Have fun, enjoy, and create great art! :slight_smile: [/color]

        [center][b][color=PaleTurquoise]LINKS to Photographs: WARNING: Nudity:[/color][/b][u][b]
        [MODEL PHOTOGRAPH 1.](


        [/b][/u] [left]Good luck! :)

[center]Hong’s Website is Now Open!


            ~Rebeccak and Hong Ly



Remember that all Open Figure Drawing Workshops (OFDWs) remain OPEN on a continuous basis. However, my primary critiquing will be focused on the current and most recent OFDWs (so now OFDW 003 and 002 will receive most of my attention, though 001 remains open for posting indefinitely). I anticipate that most people will be moving on to the newest OFDW 003. Look forward to seeing your posts!

If you are new to the OFDW series, check out the great work that has been done in the recent past ~ I recommend starting from the end of the thread, as more finished work can be found there. :slight_smile:

NOW OPEN!!! Open Figure Drawing Workshop with Hong Ly and Rebecca Kimmel 002

NOW OPEN!!! Open Figure Drawing Workshop with Hong Ly and Rebecca Kimmel 001


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oof, well that just prooved to me how badly i need to be joining in! ah well, more hours are needed in the day. thanks for setting this up!

an hour or so of painter


here is a drawing made in photoshop with intuos drawing pad- about 30 mins to an hour to complete-
hope you like it!
please, take the time to click on the thumbnail to view the image in full size:)

oh yes, and if anyone knows how to post an image so that is not a thumbnail i would apritiate if he could pm me or something:)


just a quick comment to mdme_sadie
i find it best to draw rather then paint when i have a short time frame for a figure image- and concentrate on just one part of the figure- like the thorso. This gives you time to explore and understand the subject much better then when painting. Beside this the use of colour allso is a huge task which would call for more hours devoted to the image-
This offcourse is valid only if you are studying the human form- if its an art piece then anything goes!:slight_smile:


hey rebecca :slight_smile:
started on it, will post here when i finish … just wanted to say i realy like where this thing is going

i’d like to state i can clearly see all the scale and proportional problems, i want to say before you start pointing all the bad things that this is my first full body sketch, up until now all i did was head profiles, fronts, 3/4 but mostly profiles of my class mates. i have never taken an art class in my life. i started sketching on my own this year after doing 3d models.
i am how ever interested in shading advice, strokes, mass, volume :slight_smile:
thanks in advance to rebecca and everyone else who comments on this.

p.s it took about 1 hour (i was watching some tv). its night and i snapshot this picture using my digital cam so thats why it looks so horribly yellow


pencil on sketchbook

find some bugs when i finished this sketch, next one will be better…


Wow, already some really nice posts!!! :bounce:


Great to see you here! Thank you for posting! :) 

I like the blocky stroke approach, and the fact that the bkgrd is filled in with a darker tone. I would caution you not too go too light on the figure too soon, as you will run out of a proper range of values. You will be surprised at how dark even light skin can be in midtone and shadow areas ~ to see this, desaturate a copy of the reference photo (Ctrl + Shift + U in Photoshop) and you will see what I mean.

Keep going with this, I look forward to seeing your update! :)


Welcome to the Forum as well! Wow, this was done in Photoshop? You have achieved a lovely pencil or pen ~ quality sketch, and I think your style is lovely! :slight_smile: Will you be working on the face / arm? I really would love to see where this goes! Please post updates! :slight_smile:


Look forward to seeing your work! :)


Great to have you here! I really like the torso and arms, even if they are too skinny / narrow ~ but you really show good use of Opposing Curves here, which is great! Look forward to your update! :slight_smile:


Cheers! :)



omg, my work pales in comparison to that beautiful sketch.
maybe i should try to copy it ?

@zhuzhu what kind of pencil are you using and what kind of papers?


wow a 003 workshop plus new cgtalk challenge. I will be busy for a while.



This sketch is not bad at all, in fact ~ I think it shows a lot of potential!!! You really have the torso done very nicely, and have definitely exhibited an understanding of Opposing Curves. While the legs are small, the torso is nicely proportioned, and the arms are an easy fix. When I get the chance I will do a drawover for you. Good work so far, and kudos for braving comparison to the zhuzhu ~ he is indeed very talented, but it is always good to have people with experience around to learn from. :slight_smile:

One exercise which I always recommend to beginners at figure drawing is to trace the photograph ~ either traditionally or digitally ~ a few times to get the feel of proportions. Once that is done, then do another freehand sketch, and notice if you see a big improvement. :slight_smile:

Good work so far, and if you feel like doing another drawing and posting it, please feel free to do so! :slight_smile:

Cheers! :slight_smile:



thanks, i cant remember taking notice of opposing curves, it might have been a happy accident. i do remember opposing curves in your first anatomy study. i will try to work on them from now on.

i tried tracing something a while ago. it was my first and last, i dont realy like tracing it feels like cheating. i enjoy so much freehand sketching and i dont feel like tracing. i also remember that the author of “drawing on the right side of your brain” said that tracing is a first stage but afterwards you should stop it and continue… that is also one of the reason i feel like its going back.

never the less thanks for all the advice, its much appreciated.


here is the update of my work-
i think i will stop here with this one
what do you guys thing?
i started working on the face but somehow it just killed the composition and the image…too many small details in the face that break up the form and this effects the entire image imho
still im opened to suggestions

p.s. thx a bunch rebeccak for explaing how to post the image which is not displayed as a thumbnail! :slight_smile: :slight_smile:


Can you tell I haven’t drawn in a week? lol… (- As usual my “roughing out” of the image first, resulted in it spilling over the boundary of the paper… #*%$!!? :banghead: )

 ZhuZhu's work stuns me into silence as usual...:D
 Looking forward to some amazing work from everyone 



   This is a really lovely sketch. :) However, having said that, I think that there are certain areas which are working better than others, and it's because of the concept of Opposing Curves.

I think the upper torso is working the best, because there is a lot of movement set up by the rhythmic opposition of the curves which you have employed in its drawing. The angle of the head also works well with this to create a feeling of movement and contrast between it and the upper torso.

Other areas of the figure are more static (and therefore a bit less interesting) because there is not as much movement happening there ~ for example, the right leg and arms both have relatively:

    [left] parallel () lines vs. offset curves...


   [left]such as you have used in the torso. Offset curves are always better, as they describe the organic nature of human form to a much better degree. 

Check out this thread for an in~depth explanation of Opposing Curves ~ there is a demo at the beginning of the thread which explains what I mean:
[center]Anatomy Review 002: OPPOSING CURVES

Also, technique~wise, what is working best is the shading around the breasts and the general upper torso, as what you are doing there is following form. Predictably, where the shading is less successful is where it is not following form, such as in the legs and arms. It takes a lot of work to shade this way ~ hatch by hatch ~ but if done carefully and consistently, you will be really happy with your results.

Hope this helps! I think you have done a fabulous job so far, and I really look forward to seeing more work from you in these workshops! :thumbsup:

   Cheers! :)
   ~Rebeccak  [/left]


Hey, thought id finally join in with one of these sketching sessions. Ive been watching the others as they have been going but just not had a chance to do anything. This is just an inital sketch just trying to make sure ive got proportions and stuff right. Sorry for the bad scan, i sketch very very lightly (perhaps too much so) and so i had to increase the contrast of the image so anything would show up :blush:. Im gonna continue with it a bit tonight, start doing some shading, although this is the part im have probs with most of the time so it will probably take me a while :arteest:. Anyway if anyone has any comments id love to hear them ta.



I’m thrilled to see you posting work! :slight_smile: Thank you for posting here. :slight_smile:

I think your approach to this is very solid. It’s great to put in the lay~in of the full figure first, and build from there. It can be useful to do this over and over again, for the same figure. I highly recommend doing so, in fact, as it builds confidence, and half of drawing is a confidence game.

I also recommend taking a sheet of paper and just drawing free~form, organic lines ~ don’t worry about making anything realistic~looking, just create a series of nice, organic, free~form lines to loosen up your wrist and hand. This can be a helpful exercise before doing any drawing. :slight_smile:

Her upper torso and left leg are looking really good ~ I particularly think that you have shown confidence with the drawing of the left leg, and it shows a really great use of Opposing Curves. We will work on feet and hands ~ what I recommend is to use this figure pose as an opportunity to do several small sketches of individual components ~ the head, the torso, the arms, the legs, the hands, and the feet ~ separately. This may seem like a daunting task, but I really think it would be a worthwhile exercise.

I propose that you draw the head ~ only ~ and draw this to fill about 3/4 a sheet of paper, and then post that. Or, alternately, drawing ONLY the torso (or body part of your choice) and posting that. :slight_smile:

Good luck, and I look forward to your update! :slight_smile:

Cheers! :slight_smile:



another update, this one is a little bit better, still some arm problems, and the leg is too small. the left foot is too small.
i am still too confused about the shading part… lots more to learn.



Thank you for reminding me about the Shading thing…working on a short tut… :slight_smile:

Cheers, :slight_smile: