Hi Rebecca
You’re right as usual. Her torso was a little on the buffish side.
Must have been from climbing in those trees.
Maybe hanging out with Tarzan too much. Ha Ha.
Anyway, I feminized her torso a little. What do you think?
Also been reading and studying a book I got at the library called
“Techniques of the World’s Great Painters” by Waldemar Januszczak.
Great book, simple to understand.
Trying to incorporate different techniques of the masters:
lighting, color temperature, etc.
into each of these paintings. Just an experiment.
Each of these is a little different.
Losing some of the detail in figure in the process,
but going back in to refine figure where necessary
with oil brushes and tints etc. Changing color of figure to
match surrounding colors etc.
Just started the next model -003 this afternoon.
Probably have a small series posted this week end.
Off to a good start so far.
Well that’s it for now.
Let me know what you think when you get a chance.
Thanks again for the sound advice and the subtle push.
Take care
Glenn
Now OPEN!!! Open Figure Drawing Workshop with Hong Ly and Rebecca Kimmel 002
Spirit Dreamer,
As usual, it is great to see your progression sequence! 
You have definitely worked really hard on this, and I think your results are really excellent. 
She definitely looks less buff and Tarzan/Jane~like, lol!! Thank you for taking comments so well.
Color~wise, I really like something in between maybe #3 and #4 ~ I think the later ones are over~saturated, and you are losing your hard~won detail.
The only thing that I notice being amiss in terms of the figure is that the breast seems a bit too low on her torso ~ in the photo, only the bottom 3/4 of her right breast is showing, the rest being hidden by her arm. In your image, the entire breast seems to be showing, which I think is throwing things off. But that is a judgement call.
Great work, Spirit Dreamer, and thank you for being such a great participant in the OFDWs!!! I really look forward to seeing more great work in OFDW 003!!!
Cheers,
~Rebeccak
hi…i don’t know if you noticed it but my link now is correct and shows my drawn picture.
Now i’ll start with the third part.
Kassjan
Kassjan,
No problem, thanks for fixing the link!
Your drawing looks really good so far, and if by ‘third part’ you mean, painting, that will be great! Or, if you meant the OFDW 003, I definitely look forward to seeing your work there!
I think in this drawing the proportions are looking very good. The only thing that looks a bit odd to me is the hair ~ it looks to be a bit too far lifted off of the head, though this is an easy thing to fix.
Will you be doing any digital or traditional painting?
Cheers!
~Rebeccak
Took mine a little further tonight…sorta Frazetta style (inspired by DSG topic) … all done from my mind, no colour ref.
Focusing on the body so the face is very vague still …
K.
kaylon,
I really love the color environment of this piece so far, and the mood these soft muted blues are making is terrific!
I would caution you to rework the head and neck area before you go too far painting~wise. The face needs more detail and work to make it look more dimensional, and currently, the figure needs more distance between the top of the breasts (where they connect with the chest) and the pit of the neck. The top of her head currently appears a bit flat, which I know is a result of your adjusting the hair…this time I think she just needs a bit more height on the hair (not too much) to show that she has a rounded skull.
Keep going with this, and I definitely look forward to your updates!
Cheers,
~Rebeccak
Finally got around to the other figure today. It’s just pencil @ 12x9". Tried making a background in charcoal, but thought it looked better without one.
-David
David,
Good lord, that is an amazing drawing!!! Nothing to crit ~ that’s incredible!!! :bounce:
Cheers,
~Rebeccak
Woo-hoo! They like it!:bounce:
Thanks folks. I was planning on going to ink with this but the pencil just wouldn’t stop.
-David
Glad that this class’s still going strong!
Kdeezy: nice improvement! those time are well spent indeed. your colors are looking great too. my 2-cents if you dont mind, are to do your background so you’ll get better idea how to play with those colors, and try rotate your pic horizontally to give fresh perspective about the pic. right now the neck is a lil too thick and her left leg feels bigger than her right. but overall it’s already lookin great so keep it up i say:thumbsup: .
Rebeccak: thanks for the great feed-back, as usual! keeping them in my heart too.
and hey congrats! as have been said, great piece:applause: ! and nice pick of color, they manage to tune down some hazardness in the b/w version. Congrats again! (though i secretly hope you’ll give her another try when you’ve got more time:) ).
Samanthie: thanks, really appreciate it. this grayscale’s supposed to be a study so don’t think i’ll do the color version. and what do u mean with way behind for class 03? nooo! then i’m a much more left over!
Crassico: hey nice sketch! esp like the face and the head position, not exactly ref-like, but i like it. keep updating!
Spirit Dreamer: Love it so far, getting more and more natural to me. About the “Z” concept thing, heck i dunno how to explain it, don’t have enough art-technical bg i’m afraid. it’s just a tip given from a friend who’s working as a photo and film-editor. mainly because if your pic has the “z feel” (constucted from the placement of objects, lights, lineworks, etc in the pic) over it, the composition (golden area, balances and lineflows) should feel okay at minimum, this’s statistically proven as used in most pic. off course, it doesnt always have to be Z feel to get the most effective composition, but could be said as the easiest, at least for me anyway. more 2-cents? u sure? well, you could try live-ning up your upper-right corner (maybe w more those closer ice-branches, or shimmering far bg, or both) to make your line-flows work more:). Regarding your latest set-up, i’ve got to stick w the 2nd one. and again really enjoy seeing such great pic in this thread.
SevenMars: yeah! really enjoy your use of colors and warm feel from it. everything’s done masterfully, congrats!
mybutterflyiris: getting great! keep at it. and lol toward the squirrel (so this’s where you’ve been hiding from the avatar war at dsf, eh? nice spot though, i give you that :))
kaylon: nice work so far. looking forward to the update!
dbclemons: wow just simply great! must be a hell of a job to render the fabric, as the result’s trully amazing!
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Anyway, have been slacking-off this week i know… but i manage to find the time at last this week-end, and work more on it. There’re lots of things i’ve learned and reminded, esp about values, while doing it. So while the result’s nothing close to satisfactory, i’m quite content to call it finished. However, c&c-s are always gratefully welcomed.
<whimpers> argh class 03 has reached page 7, already? Nooo!! hurriedly off to class 03
b2dermawan,
Thanks for all these great comments, and I agree, I need to finish my piece later! I’m happy to see you continue to work on your piece, and I think it has come along really nicely.
The major thing that I notice (and I understand if you want to leave it at this point) is that her right (hanging) leg is way too big for the rest of the figure. If you cover her upper torso and JUST look at the legs, and then cover the legs and JUST look at the torso, you will see what I mean ~ her right leg is for a figure 2~2 1/2 times larger than she is.
However, having said that, the rendering of the right leg in and of itself is fantastic, and I think you did a really amazing job on her right foot. I think if you were to scale the entire leg down, you would be in great shape!
Finally, I like the upper portion of the bkgrd better than the lower portion, which looks a bit hastily done.
I have to say, the face, lower right arm and hand, torso, and right leg and foot are rendered fantastically! 
It’s just the proportion of that one leg which is throwing things off.
Overall, great work, and I hope to see you in the OFDW 003! :wip:
Cheers!
~Rebeccak
I’m of an opinion that in b2dermawan’s drawing it’s not that the leg is too big, but that the head is too small. This seems to throw the scale off a bit. I’m just eyeballing it, but it might be worth checking. Also, in the photo the shoulder is a slightly different shape. Otherwise, very nice.
-DBC
Rebeccak: hey thanks a lot for the great feedback! and damn girl u type in light speed lol!
about the leg and torso proportion thing, i too was thinking that it’s quite upnormal. and having a traumatic exp with the last figure having weird leg proportion, i checked out the ref this time, and actually measure the torso and leg proportion. However, the result is true that the torso takes 5 cm while the leg takes 15 cm out of 20 cm total length of the body (you should check it too i think). i studied it more to see why and how it happened, and found out that it’s a matter of perspective. the body lies not in perfect horizontal line on the table, but more around 15 degree to left back. i guess the strong and even lights make it harder to perceive this fact at first look. but i agree some area esp the toes are longer than it should.
thanks again, and i’m looking at the class 03 figs right now. getting better i say wohoo!
dbclemons: sorry missed u there (shit i reaally should learn type faster). now i do have to admit that the head was made smaller than the ref. thanks for the feed back, and will check on the shoulder you mentioned.
David,
Hmm, you could be right...[[b]here is the photo[/b]](http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Open%20Figure%20DrawingWkshp_002/characterdesigns004_done.jpg) for comparison.
EDIT: I agree, the head does look a bit small…however, I still think that the leg is too large, and especially the foot.
Yep, you’re right, b2 ~ the proportions are definitely tricky because of that backward slant on the table. You’re smart to have actually have measured it, I’ll do that too, as I generally just eyeball things. Good work!!
Cheers! :)
~RebeccakDavid,
I hope you are planning to paint your piece ~ will you go digital or traditional this time?
Cheers,
~Rebeccak
Still playing catch-up. She looks a bit emeciated, but I really liked the roughed out torso, so I left it be.
xodibox,
Wow!! You have some really beautiful colors and tones going on there, and the skin really feels luminous and distinct from the differently textured surface she is lying on. I really love the subtle change from dark black to luminous green, I think there is a very interesting, hard to pinpoint mood in this piece which is really appealing.
Despite the fact that there are some proportional and drawing problems, I agree with you, and I really like how this looks, even if the way it turned out was not completely intentional. The main thing I would say is that her rib is tiny and could probably be simultaneously enlarged and softened without too much aggravation.
What I have suggested to a lot of folks, and what I did myself, was to rotate both the painting and the photo reference 90 degrees clockwise, and work on the image that way. This I think will allow you to more easily work on the face, and will also allow you to see the figure in a new way, which may lead you to adjust your drawing. Hope this helps!
Great work so far, and I hope you post an update!
Cheers!
~Rebeccak
thanks for the kind words!
I actually did flip it 90 degress at one point but it was more on a whim… definitely something I should add to my bag of tricks during the construction phase to help sort out problems with proportion.
Fresh eyes are helpfull too, as I noticed right away what you said about my work in 001 after
taking a break from it…
cheers.
My second attept at this fun thread, this is really educating 
Pencil, paper and about 2 hours or so.
