NOW OPEN!!! Open Figure Drawing Workshop with Hong Ly and Rebecca Kimmel 001

#501

Ok, here we go. Mech pencil with 0.5 2B leads (hair: wood pencil 4B & 6B), A4 page. Was a long time since I draw something and this was perfect to take up again. I will try something a little more “deform” for next time. Cheers and thanks!
PD: yes, the tit is more rounded

Ok, aca tá. Lapiz mecanico con minas 0.5 2B (la base del pelo: lápiz de madera 2B y 4B), hoja A4. Hace bastante que no dibujaba y me vino al pelo para retomar. Voy a probar algo un poco mas “deforme” para la proxima vez. Saludos y gracias!
PD: Si, la teta es más redonda

#502

Luis Di Donna,

Wow!!! Really beautiful work! :thumbsup: Welcome to the Anatomy Forum and to CGTalk, and thank you for posting your work!! I definitely hope you will be participating also in Open Figure Drawing Workshop 003, which is currently ongoing! :slight_smile:

Cheers! :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#503

thanks for your words, Rebeccak!!

#504

I guess I’m a little bit late on this one… didn’t realize there was TWO newer topics.

My initial sketch got the posture a bit wrong so I had to work with it.

#505

xodibox,

Beautiful work!! :applause: Thanks for posting this! :slight_smile:

The painting of the upper torso is beautiful! The left arm is also very nice, as is the head, though I think it may be a tad small.

The thing that I notice right away is that the lower torso (eg, the buttocks) and the legs look as though they belong to a figure that is twice the size of the rest of the figure (eg, the head, upper torso, and arms). If you look back through the work of others’ who also chose this photograph as reference, you will see that pretty much everyone else did the same thing when they initially started out on this pose. It’s quite easy to shrink the lower torso and legs and just blend it back together at the waist.

I hope you will continue to work on this and to post your results! :slight_smile:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#506

Hi Everyone…

Thought I’d try it since everyone else seemed to be having such fun…I’m a bit late but…here’s my first shot at it. I’m trying to work it into a full piece if possible. I’m not much of a painter yet, but trying!

This was Photoshop and Painter. Still working on the details of the body and hair and fitting her i nto the scene. Not sure what I will put in the background…a pool…more columns…something…

Anyway…critique away…any comments or suggestions welcomed.

#507

Tamara,

Welcome to the forum! It’s great to have you here! :slight_smile:

I think that your proportions are looking pretty good, but the thing that I notice is that the head looks a bit squashed…what I always recommend is for folks to draw the head without hair first, so as to best establish the position of the head and the neck in relationship to to the body. I like the backdrop that you have as well, but I would focus primarily on the figure, and work the most on that to refine and build up the form of the figure through VALUE. :slight_smile:

You have a nice midtone to the figure now which is great ~ from that point, you can work up to the highlights, and down to the shadow areas with respect to light and dark values. Right now there is something of a halo on the upper part of her hip, so I would be careful not to use the highlight color too liberally ~ save your whitest whites for the most highlighted area only, so as to increase interest in that area, and to avoid giving the figure a washed out, ‘flat’ look.

Great job so far, and looking forward to seeing your progress! :slight_smile:

Cheers! :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#508

Thanks Rebecca!

Here’s an update…I will probably work more on it this evening. Hopefully I’ve added some more detail and given some volume…let me know if you think I’m on the right track. I need to add more darks in the shadows, but working up to it slowly.

I worked mostly on the hands and feet and starting into the highlights overall.

#509

Tamara,

Wow! What a cool way to incorporate both figures into a plausible composition…a first! :thumbsup: The hands on the first figure look great, and you are really making progress on that figure! I like how the other figure is a bit out of the picture plane. :slight_smile:

The only thing that concerns me with respect to the steps upon which the figures are sitting is their perfectly parallel position with respect to the picture plane ~ right now, at least, the non~perspectival nature of the steps’ angle is causing the picture to read as too flat ~ it would probably be more interesting to have the steps recede into the bkgrd ~ do you know how to do 1 point perspective? :slight_smile:

You can also use the Transform > Perspective tool on the stairs as a whole to approximate the effect of the steps receding into space. (I wouldn’t overdo it, though). :slight_smile:

With respect to the left hand figure, I think you’re doing great! There is something a bit funny about the hair…right now, it seems to have the texture of yarn, and it’s shape is making the shape of the skull difficult to read. Hair is always secondary in importance to the form underneath it.

Watch that you don’t go too light in the highlights ~ you will quickly run out of range. Reserve your brightest brights for very select areas. You would be surprised how dark areas of light skin can be in shadow. Try to use a wider VALUE range on your figure (light > dark) and I think you will be able to give the figure more of a dimensional look.

Great job so far, and look forward to your update! :slight_smile:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#510

Hithere…

Thanks for the pointers! You’re so nice in how you critique…makes it fun to keep going.

I worked on the stairs and sort of got carried away with creating a backdrop for the whole thing so I haven’t really worked on the figure any more, but I thought I’d post it anyway. I threw in some stock photos behind it all to see what it might look like. I can probably do some Painter work on them if I decide to keep them.

I can’t do perspective to save my life so I make hubby watch over me and try to help out. Neither one of us could figure out exactly where the horizon line should fall…but it’s all still in layers so I’ll figure it out. I tried a basic transform with perspective on the entire set of stairs but it looked really odd to both of us, so I tried to do it by adding the actual tops of the steps. I think it’s working, but then…my eye is certainly not pro and half the time I can’t figure out if it looks right…or not :rolleyes:

Actually, I’m posting two because I’m trying to figure out whether you’re seeing it too dark and it’s looking over saturated on a PC…or if you’re seeing it like I am on a Mac. The first one is just a straight save…the second is me bringing it up brighter by about 15-20%. Let me know which one looks better to you. Sometimes I think my colors look too dark on a PC, since I’m working on a Mac and I am used to doing things for high end press, which always look a lot darker on the web.

I was trying to decide how to restrain myself on the highlights and it occurred to me that things could be looking over-saturated on your end. Mine is full of soft peaches in Photoshop, but the one on here looks like rusts and yellows when I look at it in PC gamma.

Anyway…off to bed for me…more work on the figures tomorrow. It’s becoming quite Tadema-ish I think, one of my favorites, so I’m happy with it so far. I might even finish it!
:applause:

This is only the 3rd or 4th painting I’ve even attempted from scratch (not 3D based and merged, etc.), so I’m fairly timid at it yet.

Again…thank you SO much for your time…it’s been really helpful, especially since you guys are already on Round 3!

Cheers…

#511

Tamara,

I think your bkgrd looks great so far as a template, so I would just keep going in this direction! I’ll try to post a bit about perspective, but I’ll have to review it a bit myself first, lol! :slight_smile:

Thanks for posting this, and I look forward to your updates! :slight_smile:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#512

Tamara

I have been asked to jump in and offer some advice on this by Rebecca. Hope you don’t mind.

I did a quick overlay of your picture and I have tried to put a comprehensible explanation at the foot of it - (I didn’t want to bore you with hundreds of drawings, LOL!)

Any lines that are receding in an image [b][i]and [/i][/b]parallel, will converge to the same [b]vanishing point [/b]on the horizon line.  Therefore, to find the horizon simply extend any two receding parallel lines, (in this case, the <green> lines of the steps,) until they converge.  This gives you the horizon. 

The red lines are parallel to the horizon, (blue line,) and cannot converge. Therefore, this makes the image above a 1 point perspective. As you can see from the background, the landscape lies below the horizon of the building, and this means that the building is elevated, (like on a hilltop.)

Hope that helps a bit

MIKE

#513

Mike,

Thank you for jumping in here and saving my butt, lol! It’s been years since I busted out my T~square wonders if the young 'uns know what a 't~square is, lol! so to say that I am rusty on my Perspective skills is being highly generous. :rolleyes: :scream: I tortured Mike today with a Perspective attempt today, and am happy he is still talking to me. :slight_smile:

At any rate, thanks again, big M, and hope you won’t be a stranger to these OFDWs! :slight_smile:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

#514

Wow…yanno…that example makes perfect sense! I guess it really is easier to have someone show you on your own work…I don’t mind at all! In fact I find it VERY helpful because it’s way easier to understand.

So…if I read this correctly…

the angle of the sides of the steps (in grey) will determine the horizon line when they converge. Which means I’ve got to raise the horizon a bit if I leave them the way they are. If I want to raise or lower the horizon, can I change the angle of the steps (green) a bit?

Just making sure I’ve got the basic idea.

Have to let the kids on the computer for a bit but I shall return tonight and spend some more time on it.

#515

Hi Tamara

When I did the draw over, your steps were not too far out in relation to one another actually. If you do decide you want to alter the horizon on your picture, (something easier done in 1 point than 2 or 3 point,) then you will have to alter your receding parallel lines accordingly, so they converge on your new horizon.

If you want to move your background image up towards your horizon line, then this will have the effect of making your structure look as though it is not on a hill any longer. If you move your background image above the horizon line then it will look as though your structure is in a recess or valley. This is of course your creative decision to make, and will not effect the piece in terms of correct perspective.

If you want drawings to help, I can do drawings… LOL!

MIKE

#516

Hiya, I’ve done another sketch :smiley: I think this one is more acurate this time. Practicing my hatch shading. Hope you like :slight_smile:

Ballpoint pen that I found lying around the house

#517

enialadam,

Wow, this is a really great sketch! Thanks for posting!

Now, instead of me critiquing this right away…if you look objectively at your piece, what are the things which you can find wrong? :slight_smile:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#518

Thanks Rebecca :thumbsup:
I think, her left cheek is a little off, misshapen, her rib sticks out a bit too much lol and I think her legg is a bit too bendy.
That’s all I have noticed. Thanks again for your help :slight_smile:

#519

… well i found this thread yesterday and think it is amazing, one more time a big thx to Rebeccak, for running this incredible thread … im a slow learner so be patient with me :lol: … i made first a sketch in PS and start to color it now …

… any suggestions for me ???

#520

Sorry I’ve been away for a few days…trying to get over bronchitis here :sad:

but…I’ve still been relaxing and trying to get better by working on this…so here it is now. I still have work to do on the overall color tone and also some small details (the foot on the top girl and the hair and face areas on both) but I think it’s about done. I’ve finally flattened it and have been going between Painter and PS.

Any suggestions? The cloth has been driving me NUTS. I think I may add a small instrument or something to the lower right since it’s kinda boring down there but I don’t want to overdo it. Maybe a lyre or a tamborine thingy.

::waves at newcomers:: Hope you enjoy the exercise…its been a lot of fun! Wolf…I like your toes on the hidden foot…(ok so the toes were really hard for me…lol). They bend better than mine do!