NOW OPEN!!! Open Figure Drawing Workshop with Hong Ly and Rebecca Kimmel 001

#441

Hi Amy…

To my eyes it looks much more appealing.
Soft and sensuous but with alot of class.

The skull neck and hair have a oneness aobut them now, whereas before they looked like separate entities.

Not sure about the center light spot that enters into her eye lashes. Didn’t notice it in the smaller version. Might try eliminating it in a trial version just to see what it looks like. If you don’t like it, disregard.

Not sure how far you want to take this figure, but I think it would look great as a finished painting. If that is the case, let me know. And I will gladly help you all I can along the way, if you want.

I would first start by depicting with light and shadow the collorbones and pit of the neck. Which have a sensuous “s” shaped curve and would add alot to the rhythm and elegance of the figure. (But unfortunately are not vey visible in the photo of the model.)

Let me know what you think.

Very nice job.
Blending on face and shadows around face are superb.

Take Care
Glenn

PS (I liked your idea for the draped background. Are you still thinking of using that?)

#442

Hi,

A more graphic approach this time. I was going for pencil sketch look, like Zhuzhu's. It looks more like black felt pen though. Still never mind, what do you think?
#443

Hi Spirit Dreamer

Yes, I think I would like to take this further. I’m really pleased with how it’s gone so far, I think not bad for something that started off as a way to fill in a bored afternoon… :slight_smile: I still like the idea of the draped background, too. And of course any help you would like to give me will be very well recieved. :applause:

I tried it before with and without the light patch in her eye. I felt I had to leave it in in order to show that her eyes are open, as without it they look shut.
On reflection (and trying it out again) I think she will have her eyes closed, as it removes an odd bit of tension it was causing.

Is there any chance you could try a quick overpaint, or point me towards some examples, with the s-shape? I’m not totally sure I understand what you’re saying.

Thanks again for all your help.

Amy :slight_smile:

#444

Thank you for the feedback, Rebeccak, but I’m happy with this one as it is. I understand your comments, but I’m going to let this one stand (or sit) as it is. A gestural version of this pose doesn’t appeal to me. I see more appeal in the surface of her back and highlights of her skin. It’s a point of view thing. We must be true to our own personal vision, no? :slight_smile: I have been giving some thought to going back to the painting and completing it there rather tahn digitally, but there’s no time for that now.

thanks again,
-DBC

#445

dbclemons,

gasps, keels Noooooooooooooooooooooooo…

:slight_smile:

No worries. :wink: After all, everything I say here is merely a suggestion. :slight_smile: Great work! I hope you will participate in Round 002 ding! :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#446

pushav:

you’re right. after i posted i set the drawing away from me and sure enough i noticed the very same problem. Upper torso has already been elongated. Thats the great part about block in, fix your mistakes early.

Since I had such a late start on this thread, I will be doing this figure along with one from part 2. The one from part2 i will be using silver point or possibly gold point if I can get into the city by tommorrow afternoon.

More coming soon I promise. just not tonight…for tonight I build my website…ughhh!

Thanks everyone.

#447

stipick_S-I was hoping that you saw it befor you started cuz’ silverpoint can’t be erased.
Yeah I remember when I had a site but now and days I blog it an have a blog gallery.
I cant wait to see silverpoint in action.

#448

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#449

3rd revision. Thanks for the suggestions Rebecca. Now I’m afraid I might have made the right foot too small. I was pulling my hair working on thise things. I hope I can post in the 2nd workshop, but like a lot of people school starts for me this week. Let’s hope I have some free time.:shrug:

#450

jinnseng,

Beautiful work…will post more comments after the midnite backup…in 5,4,3…

~Rebeccak

#451

practice practice practice

#452

Here’s mine. Done in Photoshop.

#453

Pshygon,

Good work so far! Nice to see you on the forum! :slight_smile:

allenatl,

Ooh…I like, I like, I like. Best combination of digital drawing / painting I’ve seen so far…

~Rebeccak

#454

Thanks, rebeccak! That means a lot to me.
Took a peek at the new photos. The foreshortening in there is definitely a challenge.
I’ll try to post something there later this week.

#455

whoops it’s kinda late joining this class i know… but hell i’m not gonna skip class 1!

havent done digital for couple years, so guess this classes will surely help me practise, practise and practise! thanks to the forum leader for making them and let me say the level of “sharing-the-knowledge” here in cgtalk is awe-aspiring!

this is my early sketch for figure 1. mainly just to get the big blocks correctly before i dive deeper into details. so please if you find anything silly just shoot em for me! thanks in advance.

#456

I hope to see your stuff in number 2 workshop. You too spiritdreamer.

#457

b2dermawan,

No worries! Welcome to the forum. :slight_smile: You will find that the Open Figure Drawing Workshop series, though it will continue thru successive numbers (so far we are up to 002), each individual OFDW will remain “open” indefinitely. So feel free to post when, and where, you please. :slight_smile:

The Rebecca Kimmel Anatomy Review threads (001, 002, and 003) are the ones which are technically ‘closed’ for posting ~ tho they remain open for anyone’s perusal at their leisure.

Hope to see more of your work here!

I really like your color scheme here ~ however, you will shortly become familiar with my favorite mantra, VALUE is more important than color. So I would concentrate on a Drawing first, and then a painting.

Check out how allenatl (on this page) has successfully combined “Drawing” with “Painting”. Without an established Drawing, Painting can quickly become a confusing process, so I would highly recommend completing a Drawing FIRST. :slight_smile:

Good luck with this, and please post your results! :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#458

Hi Amy

Worked on your piece a little last night.
Went a little further than the collar bones, (ha ha)
Couldn’t help myself.
Well here are a few of them.
Hope they help you or anybody else seeing them, if even just a little.

And now my words of wisdom for the day (ha Ha)
Can’t help myself there, just seems to be my nature, just trying to express myself creatively with words.
A photograph is basically an illusion, a lie to put it more bluntly. Heard it said a long time ago that all artist are liars and I guess that’s basically true. We are mastering illusion as we go along. And projecting our thoughts into other people’s minds through our creations.
Example: Somebody told Michaelangelo, Hey that doesn’t look like Lorenzo the Magnificient. Michealangelo replied that in time no one will remember what Lorenzo actually looks like. But they will remember that he was magnificient because of the statue I just created depicting him that way.
Do the same when you are working from any photograph. Lie a little or a lot. To get your point across if you have one. Or you will just end up being an imitator and not a creative illusionist.

Amy, I am not talking about you or your work. I think you know how I feel about your work. If it wasn’t good I wouldn’t be messing with it. I am just talking about art and artists in general.

Take care and keep me updated on your painting so I can see the progress. And maybe help you if you need it.

Glenn

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#459

B2Dermawan - nice work, good to see that this thread isn’t dead yet :slight_smile: I’m always very tempted to charge in and start painting, but Rebecca is right that some detailed sketches will always help. Also I learned from this thread the usefulness of a greyscale value study before painting.

Spirit Dreamer - thank you very much for your advice and thoughts. I’m working on a 3D model atm but will definitely be coming back to this in the next few days.
With your help and others on this forum, I’m happy enough that my pic looks pretty well like the photo… and as you said, the really artistic part starts now, as I will work to enhance what I’ve got.

I think I understand about the neck - the edit you’ve done makes her whole ribcage feel more defined.

As I said to Rebecca earlier on, I want to try and think more about my emotional response to the subject than simply the shapes etc. What strikes me about her (the model) is that she is not a skinny waif-type like models often are, she seems quite muscular and fit. I would really like to give my painting that feeling of strength and vitality from her.

And also do a pose from the Lesson 2 thread, I know I need the practice. :slight_smile:

If you’re interested, I posted my ref drawings for my 3d project on the orthographic drawings thread - if you have a moment to look at them, I’d be really grateful for any opinions or comments. (Update to them will be up in an hour or so). but only if you have time. (Sorry Rebecca if this is spam).

Speak to you later :slight_smile:

Amy

#460

thanks amy_517 and rebecca, really aprreciate your suggestions!!

so basically i should do line works first and then paint over it?

hmm… i must admit that’s not been my approach on painting. Usually, in a canvas, after setting the bground, i’d make out “big blocks” correctly first, put tones to establish values, and then detailing based on behaviours of shapes toward “sources of lights”. Lines, i believe, would be then automatically created from these processes (eg. from contrasts between tones).

but i really can sense the wisdom behind your suggestions. so this what i’d do, i’ll go finish this paintings with my usual approach first, and then i’ll start over again with pencil-sketched works and paint over them (tho i’m not yet sure how). and we’ll see the results. how about that?

again thanks a bunch! hope you won’t grow tired with me (…yet heehee)