NOW OPEN!!! Open Figure Drawing Workshop with Hong Ly and Rebecca Kimmel 001

#381

yAdam,

No prob! :slight_smile: My suggestion before you go further would be to elongate her figure ~ people have tended to make her a bit scrunched looking, and I think you may be in danger of doing that here. I always emphasize drawing the head and neck first without hair. This will tell you where the head should be with reference to the body, and it is almost without fail placed by artists too low and close to the shoulders than it should be. Make sure the figure has a well-defined neck, and that will tell you where the head should be.

Once again, don’t get lost in COLOR. Try to see things in terms of value. Good luck with this, and hope to see your updated post! :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#382

Here is my mini tutorial Through the blessings of Rebecca.

Some may not know how to get opposite curves or conceptualize (A big word. I know) it.

It is simpler than you may think. When I was a young artist, hmmmmm. what am I talking about. I am still young. anyway… I came up with a method of opposite curves way before I enrolled in art classes in college. I came up with this method when I was a pre-teen and I stuck with the method ever since.

All you need is a drawing instrument and some paper and to shapes.
Yes just 2 shapes. A circle and an oval.
Did you know that you can constuct humans, worlds, animals, universes,etc… with just 2 shapes.

1.Circles
2.Ovals

I will show you guys some examples…
Circle and oval gestures.

Overlapping circles and ovals can create volume and 3d forms also.
Placing circles and ovals in the right places can give you a human OR express forms to create other things.
Circles and ovals have what I like to call a “natual curve”. I you look at things in nature, You will notice that nature has curves and rarely uses straight lines like trees, animals, flowers, humas, clouds. Most man made objects use straight lines like pc scanners,t.v.s, speakers.
I should have shown you guys an animal drawn from all circles but other are pm-ing me like crazy lol.

In all experiment with this method. You may think that my stuff is crazy, but remember you have just enrolled in my school of ronin arts.

Add your 2cents if you want people. Correct me if I am wrong.

Any questions:shrug:

#383

pushav,

Thank you for posting this. :slight_smile: I especially like the top left hand figure, I think you’ve done a good job of showing how these basic shapes can collaborate to create complex form.

Thanks for your tutorial ~ may we look forward to a Painter Tips & Tricks Tutorial on the main Anatomy forum? :slight_smile: Just please make sure that in your demo, you use figures, so that your tutorial is not moved elsewhere (there is an existing Painter forum here on CGTalk).

Please just use the typical naming convention for Tutorials:

TUTORIAL - subject - by your name

Thanks! :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#384

Rebecca- You mean the female body figure?

Heh you like my crude jimmy rigged tutorial.
I thought that it may have sounded like crap and other may not like it.

I could elaborate on it more.

#385

Thought I might as well jump into pure values straight away… Only got a bit done before I go to bed, but i thought i might as well post it.

#386

Done in painter. This is my first nude study i’ve ever done, so i’m sure there are some things wrong with it.

#387

Took a bit of time off tonight to make the corrections to my last pose (all in Painter.) The changes are mostly on the right leg and hip and a bit on the back, plus I added a faint shadow underneath her. Hope it satisfies. It was a nice relief from all the 3D work I’ve been doing lately (now it’s “really 3D.”)

pushav, if you’re not using the 9.1 update to Painter be sure and get it. It’s much more stable.

-David

#388

Hi Amy

Important note: Don hit on it a little in his last update. Got me to thinking what makes the difference between a totally acurate painting and a great painting that is considered by all to be a masterpiece.

I think it can be related to music and / or acting. A person can get up on the stage and sing all the notes and words perfectly, or an actor can read his lines just like they are written down, but until they bring out something that is hidden within themselves, deep down in their soul or whatever, and express them selves with truthful heartfelt emotion, it is just some pretty words and sounds. Totally correct but uninspired.

Perfect example: what makes [color=lime]Zhushu’s latest drawing so beautiful? It is not the fact that it is put down correctly. (Has a couple of errors, so what?) It’s the fact that it was spoken, sung and drawn with extreme eloquence in this case. In some other case it might be rage, or whatever. It is how you convey your own inner emotions and express them outwards and reflect them in your work. Whether it be music acting or painting that makes for creating masterpieces. In short it has to have something of you in it. [/color]

So now that you have put all the pieces of the puzzle together correctly, and are in the process of taking it to its final stages, I hope you keep what I said in mind. And I hope what I said helps you a little anyway.
And anyone else out there who reads this.
Take care
And
Good Luck
Glenn

#389

Preach on Spirit! Preach on!:applause: :applause: :applause:

dbclemons- I should get the 9.1 patch someday. I have a feeling Painter 10 will come out. Lol.

#390

on the subject of beautifully done paintings. To read up on what spiritdreamer is speaking of I highly recomend Berger’s “Ways of Seeing”. It is quick read and inexpensive, yet highly usefull and insightfull book on certain aesthetics of art.

#391

donseeg: thanks, i love your brush work too. i know [silver point] from some drawing book, like H pencil? i am afraid i can’t find this kind of pencil in chinese market. but that ok, i think the quality of drawing is not only depend on which tool would be using.

amy_517: thank you.

rebeccak: thanks for your useful reply. i am looking forward the [ Open Figure Drawing Workshop 02], and, may i make a “precontract” first? you know that, and waiting for you to say"yes", ah ha~~~ :slight_smile:

today’s sketch, legs study. ( pencil on sketchbook)


#392

Its great to still see this thread going strong, when it’s not being hijacked by those after painter brushes! :smiley:

dbclemons, your workappeals to me more every time you post. yadam, I really liked the way you were using the colour in your first piece, once you’ve got the tonals down, it’d be great to see a continuation of that - the greeny yellows and pinks play off each other nicely.
Just a quick update on my own piece… the figure is almost there, I still need to refine her feet a little more. One wing is done, and I’ve put a bit more detail into her surroundings, though I’ve still got some perspective issues I need to iron out.

Rebecca, I was wondering if it would be okay for me to post this in the finished 2D section when I’m done with it? Use the opportunity to pimp this forum in general, as its such a great resource. I understand if you’d rather I didn’t, but I figured I’d ask anyhow. My thanks to you and Hong again. Such a great thread!

#393

Pushav - I very much like your mini-tutorial! Surprisingly enough, I was going to post something in here about “bubble muscles,” seeing if anyone else used this method and how well it worked for determining opposing curves (as Rebecca pointed out to me that I need to work on them). Lo and behold, you posted that tut, and now I’m much more confident ;D One thing I would like to see, however, is a sort of “bubble guide,” which would show where most of the major forms of the body are and how they’re generally shaped. Not asking you to go overboard with work here, but if you have the time… it’d be very nice :wink:

#394 
 Do you use a stump to blend or is that all pencil to make smooth values? Nice work!
I also like that woman ith the orange flower in here hair in another thread that you posted in.

DrakeX- Lol I beat ya to it. A comic artist by the name of Bart Sears uses the bubble muscle method when he draw muscular heroes such a Captain America and Falcon.
I just had to show people my method and give others confidence on the opposing curves that Rebecca was talking about. I had to dumb down her message so thoose who are not as art savvy as others could also get the message.

Zepyhri- Fantastic work!:thumbsup:

#395

thanks, i used the most powerful and natural blend tool (my finger)~~~ha ha

#396

Zhuzhu- Lol! I do the same but my art teacher used to make us use pencil and no smudging. A picture that would take 3 days ended up takeing 2weeks to finish. Over a billion pencil strokes just to finish 1 picture. Those were the days.

#397

Hi all, I been wanting to participate but haven’t found the time, until now. Started at 5 and just finished. Four hours total.

Awesome thread and excellent entries by everyone.

#398

Referring to post #379, thanks for your critique rebeccak. The medium I’m working in is digital. In the past year it’s been really a joy to work in this medium. I have done a ton of human anatomy studies in the traditional mediums and I’m trying to recapture my style in the digital medium. The structure of the human body can be fascinating to draw and I learn something every time I do a study. I like to preserve and always show structure and I really don’t like getting into how smooth her/his skin looks. I want the viewer to see the values. I’ll remember next time about the proportions of the stills I upload to the forum, I did not realize until I posted and I said oops! My bad. This is my second post on this forum and I enjoy your advice and thought.

Until the next post, cheers,

Matt
#399

zhuzhu, silverpoint can be just a piece of silver on a stick - nothing more. In fact, you can make decent marks with copper or bronze, also. They make much more subtle (lighter) marks than graphite, even hard leads, but can get dark with some effort. Neat stuff.

#400

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Quick sketch built into a lighting study I guess (30 minutes or so)
Painter 9, lots of liquid ink layers. I’d like to revisit it in one or two different styles, and a bit less rushed.