NOW OPEN!!! Open Figure Drawing Workshop with Hong Ly and Rebecca Kimmel 001

#361

here is the update for teh new sketch

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i am much more satisfied with this one, but i really really must learn how to draw hands and feet…

@pushav: could you send me these brushes too?

#362

Llynna- Sure I can. Pm me your email and your wish is my command POOF!
Lol.

I am starting to get fame with theese brushes. (I feel like ryan church or a bob ross right now). I am getting good reviews on theese brushes.
I may have to make more. Maybe VDZ set 2 lol.

#363

:scream: lol. Bob Ross is hilarious. He was so cool. But unfortunately could only paint one kind of picture. Would you mind sending me those brushes too?:smiley:

#364

Pm me your email and you may become the new “Bob Ross” .:thumbsup:

I am feeling like the Icecream man Lol.
Patriot pops for all!

(I wonder if I am famous now?)

#365

hehe. I really dont want to become the new bob ross :slight_smile:

#366

Hi Amy
WOW!!:applause:
Really captured those subtle curves that were missing in your first piece.
Nice Proportion and Rythm going on now.
I was partial to the face you had on the first one.
If you can capture that again you’ll be all set!
Keep up the great work!
Take care
Glenn


PS If you need some nice blender brushes, maybe if you ask Pushav (really nicely) he will accomodate you. (Tell him, Glenn sent you)

PPS Pushav…Am I in trouble here or what? :eek:
What happened to your painting? It was looking great!
If you keep going back to drawing, you will make Rebecca put
you in the dog house.:cry:

#367

Llynna, I really like your drawing, it looks just like a charcoal drawing. It is Photoshop?

I’ve used photoshop since version 5 to mess about with Photos, but never thought to use it, for painting or drawing, until I saw this thread.

With hands and feet, try not to think about what they look like. Just you have in the other parts of your drawing, pick out the highlights and the darks that you can see. The feet and hands will almost draw themselves.

#368

@amy: wow… really awesome :slight_smile: i really like the rendering and all this nice curves :wink:

@psr: thank you :slight_smile:

yes it is photoshop, i made a costum brush for sketching and after a long time of struggle i finally get the habit of sketching in photoshop :). also thanks for the tip with the hands and feet, you are right, i always try to draw them from the form and not from the highlights.

@rebecca: thanks for your work and your tip to paint in greyscale. i recognized one funny thing , after sketching out the main blocks i was able to delete the outlines and to “see” them in my brain, it was totally clear where the form was ( i hope thats understandable^^)

#369

Spiritdreamer- Lol! I am lucky that Becca has not shown her face in here for a while.
“welcome to the Pushav thread” Lol! I should work on the painting but felt like drawing in ink for some reason. My inner Yoji Shinkawa was coming out. Oh yeah Look at Yoji’s work. His meatal gear inks are nice.

Hopefully she will not put me in detention because I love my Saturdays too much!

Lol! I won’t forget you glenn as I make my way to the top.

Llynna loves the smudger. a la photoshop smude sorta.

#370

Must…check…the ego…of pushav…Boo! Grrr… :slight_smile:

:slight_smile:

Freshly baked review for weilong coming shortly…

~Rebeccak

#371

pushav,what brushes are these? i may like a set too.

then i can get started…

#372

Ok, kids. :slight_smile:

Weilong, thanks for your post! Here is your review: :slight_smile:

[left]Hope this helps! :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

Guys: If anyone else would like pushav’s brushes, please simply PM him, and please [color=Orange]do not post any more requests on this thread, as it is taking up unnecessary space.
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Thanks! :slight_smile:
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#373

as requested by pushav… tada my drawing smudged with his acrylic smudg tool

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and now for world domination narf (but as we know: they never achieved it ;))

#374

Lol! Look at that people! the proof is in the pooding! The proof is in the f#$%^&ng Pooding! Pm me your email and you to can rule the world. (Try it before you buy it. I feel like Billy Maze (whatever his name is) try to sell some oxy clean.)

I can give you some also Rebecca. Just give me the word. Oh yeah you may want to put pm pushav for brushes in your rules section on the first page.

That is all of the spam that I have for now:twisted:

(ps i also have a hyung tae kim type of smudger also for painter. OOps did I say that out loud.)

Honestly Rebecca this inspires me to paint that picture more.

Again sorry Teacher (Rebecca). :cry::bowdown:

#375

amy_517,

This is looking fantastic so far! The main thing I would suggest for the face would be to create the main axes on a separate layer ~ draw the main central axis first, then the axes of the brow, eyes, lips, chin, and nose. Keep this first pass loose and gestural, and then go in and refine, adding details at the last. Keep this layer locked, and paint either on top of it or beneath it, depending on your preference.

The same general approach applies when you are blocking in your colors: as you have done with the body and the background, simply continue to block in the rough value areas of the face first, and then gradually refine as you go. Add details at the last, and continually check your painting against your axes drawing, correcting as you go. You will find that your AXES are the most important things to get right in the face ~ particularly as it is small, and mistakes will show right away.

A poorly rendered face which has all of the axes in place will read better than a perfectly rendered face which has misaligned axes.

  Good luck with this, and look forward to seeing your result! :)

Llynna,

Good work so far, I am really pleased with how this is coming along! The main thing which I would suggest at this point would be to step back and take a look at your piece as though you are looking at a DRAWING and not a PAINTING. Psychologically this can help artists to see their mistakes.

I would suggest at this point creating a new layer, and doing a drawing in some visible color, like blue, overtop of your existing painting. Find the major Opposing Curves and reinforce these. Relax your lines, and try to give the figure more of a lengthened, extended look. Feel free to cut and paste elements of the painting and move and rescale them to make them work, and then reblend these elements back into the painting.

All of Drawing and Painting is about [b]EDITING,[/b] and I think that that is the primary task you have right now to push this piece to the next level. Definitely post your results, and we'll go from there! :)

Great job so far, so keep going! :)

~Rebeccak
#376

Hey Rebecca I have a tip on how to get opposing curves for beginners and it is very simple and I was wondering if I can post it here.

Just asking. Hopefully you are in a good mood!:thumbsup:

Sorry that my popularity got out of hand.

#377

Pushav,

If you want to do a demo that specifically relates to the model reference on this thread, feel free. Just keep it on topic, and it will be cool. :wink:

If you want to do an Opposing Curves demo that is done from other reference, I would rather you post on the main anatomy forum a new thread called “TUTORIAL - Easy Opposing Curves - by pushav” or something to that effect. That is the standard naming convention I like for folks to use when posting their own tutorials.

EDIT: What I would suggest is to create a demo in this thread that is based on the model photographs for Opposing Curves. Then I would suggest creating on the main forum the following:

TUTORIAL - Custom Painter Brushes - by pushav
[color=PaleTurquoise]
[/color]Clearly your brushes and Painter advice have benefitted many, and it might be cool to have all of your Painter tips and tricks in one place so that people can easily find it. :slight_smile:

Thanks, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#378

hy rebecca, i did what you suggested and treid to create some length. thank you for your advice :slight_smile:

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#379

yAdam,

I really like your drawing so far, and would like to see you either refine this drawing, or do another of the same pose, using what you’ve learned from this version to improve the next. Great linework ~ I love the sense of weight! I would push the expressiveness of your linework without getting crazy about it, and see what happens. Definitely post your results! :slight_smile:

default.rol / Mike,

I think your bottom right sketch is the most successful of that page. :slight_smile: I think that you are showing your understanding of Opposing Curves in this piece which is definitely working to your advantage. Realizing that you have a busy schedule, would you also consider using your grid method on the model reference to create a new drawing? I think this would help you to see certain problem areas in the figure. I would suggest trying this method on the front pose, and seeing what happens. Definitely post your results! :slight_smile:

Flydesign,

  I really like what you have going so far, can you tell us what medium you are using ~ traditional / digital?
  
  One thing I would like for this thread is for folks to keep the image which they post to a 600 pixel width. :) ~It's no biggie, and you need not change your current post, but just a note for the future. ;) One thing I do is to keep a large version, and then when I go to post an image, save a merged copy and Image > Image Size > set width to 600 pixels with the 'Constrain Proportions' checked in Photoshop. I don't care about length as much as width. :)

But back to your piece. I think you have a really nice command of structure, and I would just like to see you push this further.

  Definitely post your results! And welcome to the forum. :)
 
 Llynna,

Wow, that was fast! I like how you are developing this so far. There are some problem areas, specifically around the shoulders, and I think that one thing that will help is to step away from your current painting for a moment, and take the time to trace the photograph, in a separate digital file, to get a feel for the shape of the shoulders and for the arms.

After you have done this tracing, which is just for practice, go back into your original painting, and you will see it with new eyes.

You are developing the leg nicely, but the hands need work ~ I would recommend breaking the hands down into simple shapes first, and not worrying about tiny details first. Remember that Drawing and Painting is a constant process of Construction and Deconstruction. It is not always a linear trip down a one way street ~ if something is not working, artists are at liberty to go back, tear down what they’ve done, and reconstruct it in a more informed way.

 Keep working, and eep posting your results! :thumbsup:
 
 ~Rebeccak
#380

:scream:Thanks so much for your suggestions and encouragment rebecca! I started to paint the first sketch, but before i finish it off i’m gonna do a couple more sketches taking in mind what you said. Heres where i got: