NewTek LightWave 11 announced.



Read the press release and watch the live feed from this Hollywood presentation.



Many of the things we paid for in CORE and never received. Now if we want them we have to pay for them again.

How wonderful.


Many of the things we paid for in CORE and never received. Now if we want them we have to pay for them again.

How wonderful.

I had the same reaction as a “charter” CORE purchaser. Got a nice tee shirt out of it :slight_smile:


As an early CORE investor, I am not at all happy with how 10.1 ended and with how this LW11 upgrade was handled.

I think Newtek has done a complete disservice to it’s loyal customers and really backhanded them in the face.


here is the feature list


I know I could’ve used some of those features on recent projects, that’s for sure.

  Same here.  :)
  Yup. MANY tried to tell them. After the CORE fiasco they slapped us in the face. Then ending the 10.x development at 10.1, that just added insult to injury. I've been a user since '96 on the Amiga 3.0 version. Upgraded to every version since I bought it for myself at v5.0. The way they treated me (and others) had just annoyed me to the extreme and they have lost my loyalty COMPLETELY. And I've got ten licenses! Having been banned from their forum I can't comment "over there."  :D

Off the top of my head… Instancing we already had in CORE and played with. Bullet Dynamics we already had in CORE and played with… All of this should be in LW10.5.

  Of course. Nice list. Problem is they should be in 10.2 or 10.5, NOT 11. I have no problem with them shortening the amount of features in future upgrades, but to start this now immediately after screwing so many with deleting CORE? As far as I'm concerned.. Newtek has just become another cash-grabbing company. I can't support them any longer. No upgrading here. I'll be selling several licences if anyone is interested.  :)


Here is the full feature list:


Instancing lets you create mass duplication of objects in a scene, with very little overhead. Previously, you would simply run out of memory. Now, with the ability to have huge ‘virtual’ polygon counts, artists can populate their scenes with incredible detail, and yet retain reasonable render times.

While instances can be thought of as clones of the original source objects, they don’t need to look identical. They can be randomly scaled, positioned, rotated and even surfaced completely different from the source. This means you can use instancing for any number of uses.


Use the Flock controller, which calculates crowd avoidance of neighbors, target alignment, and cohesive attractions, to create realistic natural motions, with ease.These are the three elements of any flocking system.

Classic examples of flocking motion are:

[li]Flocks of Birds[/li][li]Schools of Fish[/li][li]Swarms of Insects[/li][li]Animal Herd Behaviors[/li][li]Craft Maneuvers (planes, alien ships, etc)[/li][/ul]


This new Modeler tool was designed specifically to compliment Bullet dynamics in LightWave Layout. It allows the artist to pre-fracture objects ready for destruction.

There are a number of different methods and associated settings to fine tune the look of the pieces as they are broken up. You also have the ability to create an Endomorph of the resulting fracture, which means you can animate the explosion, with or without using dynamics.

Weight maps can also be applied to the source object to control the density of where the fracturing takes place, making Fracture a flexible tool for creating breaking objects in LightWave.

[b]Bullet Dynamics[/b]

Bullet is a fast, production proven, open source physics engine that is used in many high profile, effects-driven films and real-time game engines. Bullet features 3D rigid body dynamics originally created by Erwin Coumans.

LightWave 11 features the Bullet dynamics engine directly in Layout so that it can be used with the new Fracture tool in Modeler to create compelling physics-based animation. Things like collapsing buildings, explosions, and even natural placement of items in a random pattern, would otherwise be difficult to do by hand.

Virtual Studio Tools

The Virtual Studio Tools first made an appearance in LightWave 10, as a way of using third party controllers to animate items in your scene.

LightWave 11 continues to expand on this concept by allowing more controller types, such as the affordable Playstation® Move. These third party controllers use the new SDK available for the Virtual Studio Tools, which now allows developers to hook into the system directly.

Using the new Control Booth and Device Managers in VST, users can now manage every aspect of how their controllers are configured, and how they are used within LightWave. Essentially, anything that can be animated in LightWave can be controlled, using any device.

It is also now possible to modify how the data input is manipulated as it is captured into LightWave, using the Node Editor. This allows for complex logic to affect the input. Once a virtual performance is captured, the data can be edited in the Graph Editor, letting you hand edit any live-captured performances.

Virtual Studio Tools in LightWave 11 is a significant evolution of this technology, and with the new SDK, third party developers can extend and enhance it even further.

Interchange Tools


GoZ™ is an interchange technology from Pixologic®, that allows applications to send model and texture data to and from ZBrush™ for sculpting detail on a base mesh. It has proved incredibly popular among many 3D artists. Now, LightWave 11 brings that technology to you.

The GoZ implementation in LightWave Layout and Modeler is robust and fully featured. It allows you to exchange model data, along with all the associated texture maps. The Modeler implementation even lets you use ZBrush for sculpting Endomorphs for things like facial morphs.

GoZ now allows LightWave to be even more integrated within studio pipelines, making it a great addition to the LightWave 11 toolset.

[b]Render Buffer Enhancements[/b]

Saving and viewing the various buffers produced by the render engine to make up an image, is now more powerful and much easier in LightWave 11.

The new Compositing Buffer Export panel now makes it possible to select which objects are to be included with the buffers you specify, and easier to select which buffers are to be exposed for saving or viewing.

This makes rendering out for compositing much more streamlined, as it combines and extends the functionality of two different panels you had to visit in previous versions of LightWave. It also allows saving of presets for the commonly used buffers to aid in setting up for output, something that was not possible before.

[b]Python Scripting[/b]

Python is an industry standard programming language prevalent in most CG pipelines. The inclusion of Python in LightWave 11 allows even further integration of LightWave into studio pipelines, as those familiar with Python can quickly begin writing tools for LightWave.
FiberFX Enhancements

FiberFX now has a new volume rendering mode. “Stroke” is the original shading method for volumetric rendering. When set to “Solid,” the user can apply shading and material like any normal surface. This lets you create very complex looking fibers, easily, and perform parametric cylinder rendering of the fibers.

FiberFX volumetric rendering has also been enhanced with smooth line rendering to match the pixel filter look, as well as render buffer support for all fiber types.

New optimizations that make the building and relaxed distribution of fibers multi-threaded, give you faster render times and interactivity when working with fiber setup and styling. Additionally, the FiberFX instance accelerator demonstrates benchmarked rendering improvements of 2x for complex situations.

FiberFX has also benefited from the new instancing system in LightWave 11. Volume mode now uses the new built-in instancing system. The old FiberFX Instancing Tab is no longer needed and has been removed.

FiberFX has also been given enhanced nodal support in the following areas:

[li]Instance Info node now works to change color on FiberFX instances in Solid volume type[/li][li]Added support for nodal color input to the stroke or ribbon type of volume rendering[/li][li]Add nodal color UV texture mapping support for volume stroke rendering, including smoothing[/li][li]Add nodal color UV texture mapping support for rasterized fibers, including smoothing[/li][li]Add alpha input into FiberFX node editor[/li][li]Add alpha mapping support for texture mapping[/li][/ul]

User Interface Enhancements

Workflow Additions and Changes
Features are nothing without good workflow. That’s why LightWave 11 has a number of improvements to areas of the workflow, no matter how small they may be, it all adds up to a better user experience and faster working environment.


The list of available nodes can now be searched to find a specific node more quickly. There are also options for case-sensitive searching and flat list results (the matched nodes will appear in a flat list as opposed to a hierarchal list showing the node group they are located in). There is also a quick option to clear out a search and get back to the full list. All of these options are found in the popup menu to the right of the search field.

Adding Multiple Nodes
The addition of the node tree list means that multiple nodes can be added all at once, rather than one at a time. Simply select the nodes you need and click the Add Node button. Alternatively, click the first node, hold the Shift or Ctrl key (depending on the type of selection you are doing - contiguous/non-contiguous), and double-click the last node. The previous way of adding nodes via the popup menu, is also still available. The small drop down arrow next to the Add Node button is where the original node menu is located.

Many options that affect the final render are located in a number of panels. Previously the user had to switch panels often to check all of these settings. In LightWave 11, the main panels have been grouped together for quick access within the same panel.

The Render Properties panel now hosts the Camera and Light options. The shortcuts for opening these panels are still the same as previous versions of LightWave, so it will not disrupt your workflow. It just means that checking your render settings is now much easier with all these items in one panel, under their respective tabs. The Render Properties panel can now also be accessed by the shortcut Ctrl p.

Faster Access to the Morph Mixer Interface
The Morph Mixer plug-in is especially important for character animators, but was buried away in a large list of plug-ins. On the Object Properties panel under the ‘Deform’ tab, there is now a button to quickly add and access the Morph Mixer interface.

Further Enhancements & Optimizations

IK Evaluation Optimizations
Performance has been improved for the IK rigs to speed up character animation, allowing for easier and smoother posing while working. Also GLSL speed in Layout is improved.

Scene Loading Speed Optimizations
A huge speed boost has been added to Scene and Object loading, in some cases - 7x faster.

Modeler Optimizations & Enhancements
Multi-Layered Object is now much faster to work with than previous versions of Modeler.

Off-Axis Alignment
Items can now be modeled off-axis and automatically aligned to the origin. This allows details to be added, such as bolts or nurnies to be placed and aligned to a complex surface.

Shadow Catcher Node Material
Shadow Catcher allows comping of shadows and even reflections onto a background plate by rendering to an object that is modeled to match the ‘real’ ground in the background. The Shadow Catcher node then only renders the shadows and reflections of other scene items, while ignoring the ground model surface. The result is believable, perfectly blended shadows and reflections in the background plate, just as if the CG elements were actually in the original photo.

Print Render Utility
Working out how big to make your camera frame size for print has long been a question asked by many. And while the math is simple, it’s process is ripe for automation. The ‘Print Assistant’ utility in LightWave has been replaced with a much more fully featured version. This version supports all major print units and has a large list of preset standard paper sizes, making it a useful update for those working with LightWave for print.

Unified Sampling
The sampling of anti-aliasing, shaders, and lights has undergone a significant change to a more advanced unified sampling system. The result means better quality sampling, often at lower render times.

The new system results in changes to the anti-aliasing, with ‘Samples’ and ‘Quality’ settings located around the interface. They are all now using absolute samples and are located in only two places: the Camera and Render Globals panels. Previously light quality was calculated as a squared value. For example, if the user entered a value of 4, the actual number of samples taken would be 4x4, which equals 16.

Nodes handled things slightly different, they would try to get as close to the absolute number of samples entered, but sometimes might not be able to. These areas are now on equal footing, which means they work together for a better image quality.

VPR Enhancements
VPR now allows the ability to select a surface by clicking on the object in the viewport, which then brings up the surface editor with the surface highlighted. This new functionality makes it much easier to make modifications to surfaces. Lens Flares are now supported directly in the VPR, also the unified sampling updates are also present in the VPR which give improved quality.

HyperVoxels™ Blending
The team investigated and re-implemented the blending mode for Surface mode HyperVoxels.

The feature had been disabled due to the fact that it was not working. After first fixing the issue, the operation was reviewed and rather than just retaining the two former preset choices (Metaballs 1 and Metaballs 2), the implementation was revised to allow for control of the algorithm, via a percentage entry field and animation of the value, via an envelope.

To enable Blending, first check on the Blending toggle. The Blending Scale field then allows for control of the blending algorithm. The former Metaballs 1 option would be matched with a setting of 75%, and the Metaballs 2 option would be matched by a setting of 100%. Full range in the entry field is available now, and includes exceeding 100%. This provides quite a range of looks, like more fluid-like for some HyperVoxels setups.

OBJ I/O Enhancements
The OBJ file format is now more robust, supports a wider range of material tags, and loads faster to optimize I/O with other external applications.


LightWave 11 is the most advanced and feature-rich version of LightWave ever. As we move forward, the LightWave mantra is “Technology Serves the Artist” and every new feature further proves that mission.

LightWave 11 has been developed by working closely with our users, designers, and key studios to establish the most artist-friendly and production-centric workflows possible, to enable more flexible creative options, faster turn-around times, and ultimately more successful project completions for teams and individuals. We are delighted to have you as a member of the LightWave team and look forward to seeing the amazing imagery that you create with NewTek LightWave.


What is this CORE drama that I have been reading about?

Anyone care to share the story?


CORE is right NOW the development architecture being now used for internal development within Newtek.
Originally it was supposed to be a stand alone program, (And a lot of user joined the CORE development program) but a lot of users raised a stink about CORE being a ground up rewrite.
It was not pretty, and people got their walking papers. And frankly NT could have handled that better.
Anyway NT decided to merge the CORE code with the classic LW code and do a gradual phase out of the older code.

Needless to say a lot of users complained loudly about this… about six months ago.
Refunds were issued for those who felt cheated about this.

This is a ONE HELL of a release. The unity export is something I will be using A LOT

and the Render Buffer Enhancements is something we have begged for a lonnng time.


I’m looking forward to the new UV tools…


Nice long list, right? Yup.

Now compare the list of LW11 features with those of LW10 and 10.1. Can you guess which one is FAR more impressive? Yup, LW11. Some of those feature in 11 were what many of us were already using in CORE. But NOW Newtek expects you to pay for them AGAIN if you want them working. Newtek managed to do to me what other software companies were unable to to do - push me away from Lightwave. My point here is… had Newtek put many of the features touted in LW11 into LW10.5… and THEN started on LW11… I would probably still be a pro-LW user. But the fact that they chose to dis their user base who bought into the “CORE concept” and expect them to buy another upgrade when they SHOULD have provided it to users as a 10.x update…

Yeah, I’m beating a dead horse. But Newtek has lost several long-time users - primarily NOT because of the software, but because of the organization that now runs it along with the anti-userbase decisions they’ve made. It’s too bad that there continue to be users who accept this time and again - very much like the Kevin Bacon character in Animal House: “Thank you sir may I have another…” :slight_smile: WHACK!~


To make a loooong story short Newtek announced the release of Lightwave Core in feb 2009. It was supposed to be a new program from the ground up, that users could “pre-purchase” to be a part of the development process. But it ended up dividing the community in two groups, those that felt it wasnt "Lightwavey" enough and the more futureminded ones that was interested in seeing where this was going. You can find some Core videos on Youtube if youre interested.

So basically after pulling the communitys legs for 2 years, and a 7-8 months silence from NT (a lot of people started to see the writing on the wall) they announced that Core was killed and instead should be used as a development platform and the tech integrated into Lightwave. And without much of an apology for wasting peoples time and contributions, they offered a refund.
This caused alot of complaints, and some of the most vocal users got banned, myself included. (Banned for 2 years from a product forum for sarcasm, go figure :surprised )

And as RobertoOrtiz implied…this was a “whopping” 6 months ago, so it is time to use that short term memory for what it is good for…forget it ever happened. (Though technically, 10.1 was released late july? so how that becomes 6 months I dont know, but hes probably being generous.)

And I see we now have the opportunity to pre-purchase again :argh:


I think 11 is an awesome release. The feature list is good for a new start. :slight_smile:

But i can understand who complains because of the CORE debacle.
Nt handled this badly, But I like to think they will handle the future of the app better.
They should focus on that and into establishing a better connection with userbase, as it was in the past.

Probably Nt should give registered users a better discount on the upgrade.
however,if i’m not wrong , Hardcore registered users have rights for 5 free upgrades.

CORE was discontinued because it wasn’t shaping up well, despite the project was great on paper. I skipped it for that very reason. Good on paper, but too overestimated from a development POV.
Project was too huge for Nt capabilities, and most important, not well handled for production purposes. And this was a too huge problem, more than marketing problems NT has.

Now things are better: The difference is at least we’ll be able to use CORE features in production, rather than into an experimental app, and they are useful from a production standpoint.

As development progresses, Lw 11.x cycle and 12 release will have to deliver alot of changements towards true modernization.

This is what we all expect from Newtek in the near future.


Hardcore members are entitled to 5 upgrade discounts if I´m not mistaken, not free as you said.


Yeah, I agree. But that’s really not the point.

Never gonna happen. This is a Newtek thing. They simply do NOT know HOW to communicate effiectively OR properly with their userbase.

And therein lies the rub. Why should I have to pay AGAIN for something that I already had in CORE? Why was the feature list for LW10 FAR less impressive than that of LW11? Don’t ya think that Newtek should have thrown us users a HUGE bone by giving us MORE in LW10.x than giving us less than ANY other previous LW release? So I am given the huge honor of upgrading to LW11 for ANOTHER $395 since I bought into CORE at the beginning? How nice.

I expect Newtek to crash and burn again and again. They always seem to do that after rising up high. They did with CORE and their marketing has always been poor. And their communication with their userbase has never been good either. For YEARS I gave them the benefit of the doubt. Been there (time and again)… done that (for the last time.) They had their chance after removing CORE when they could have provided us with a GREAT LW10 upgrade. Instead, we got a mediocre 10 upgrade and want us to pay for that LW11 great upgrade.

Sheesh… I feel like Sam Bowling here. Ugh. :frowning:


thanks for correcting me.


See, i can understand your perspective as a longtime user.
Nt did very bad in the past, and especially in recent past with CORE.
Wrong choices and bad marketing for sure, no doubt.

Now they took another path.
Of course i agree with you about money.
People upset with CORE were even refund though, so probably this would be a good choice for you as an user. I didn’t jump in the CORE bandwagon, because I personally understood they were not going to deliver such a thing. Poor presentation video, no developing after a certain period, and so on.

Now team has changed, Lw is developed to be more productive than before, and this is good.
What i’d like to change in better is management/marketing, this is the area in which Nt should do some effort to actually improve, because it’s fundamental to have a good behaviour to users.
If this will not change, then they could deliver Maya 20 and they’ll be held back however, because perception of your app is important just like its development. That, and extensive documentation of the app.

From a development POV they are going ahead.As for 10.0 wasn’t ptobably tehcnically possible to deliver a huge release. Let’s see at least what they can deliver with the 11.x cycle which should instead be way better.


Ahh, but there’s the problem. You get the refund, you lose the five upgrades at lower price. They screw you over either way. You keep 10 and get far less than you should have and then have to pay again for 11. Or you take the refund ($395 in my case) and if you like 11, you buy that for $695. Not too good of a deal EITHER way.

Yeah. And so the long-time LOYAL users who bought into the CORE marketing get screwed, whereas the users who were FAR wiser such as yourself (and I mean that with NO sarcasm) get the better end of the stick. So much for NT being loyal to their userbase.

I agree. But unfortunately the management in place is still the ones who’ve been there for quite some time. They treated us VERY poorly during the CORE debacle and why would ANYONE think that that would change now? I mean… they under-delivered with LW10 and they want us to pay for CORE features in LW11 that we should have in LW10. They apparently have NO intention of showing anything like good behavior to their userbase. Why would they when so many people gush at the LW11 featurelist and forget about what they did to us with CORE and LW10.1?

Sorry to say this, but… bullcrap. They came a LONG way with LW9.x adding lots of tech features. They could EASILY have done the same with LW10. They CHOSE to go for the money and not “be nice” to the userbase.

It’s really sad. I defended Newtek for years in here, and many other forums. Now I can’t. They don’t deserve it and they certainly haven’t earned it. Another sad thing is… they don’t WANT to earn it. :frowning:


True, but now the retail price has been upped to 1495. actually a good move should have been to keep that at 795 just because of CORE debacle and disease done to users.

Well, I can’t deny that when i saw the CORE presentation i was rather upset, and also, seeing following movies wasn’t that excited as well, even because they were rare so it meant development wasn’t going fast and well. Then lots of bad opinions on CORE as well. that’s why i decided not to jump on it. I’m no wise, i just waited and saw.

Management of NT i find it not good. Development team i find quite good. So, Unfortunately that’s what i expect. Good development and crappy dealing with user base and marketing…I hope it can improve, but i doubt.

Yeah for 9 they promised alot, but delivered also great chaos together with some enhancements. And no modernization. Now it seems to me at least Powers has a clearer vision about development and production, that’s why i’m not angry for this release. I’m looking forward to see some videos explaining new features to make myself a more precise opinion on what will be released.