New WS based in Xeon E5-2650 v3

#17

I would do what Mash proposed, he is spot on with his recommendation.

#18

Mash give us your expert advice, please.

#19

But that is exactly what I’ve told him, read again my post;) Josu probably didn’t understand my advice.
IF you really want to go with Xeon is better to go for two 8/10 core with the highest ghz(like the 2687W) then you will have plenty of render power and also more than decent single thread speed.

#20

But the model 2660 v2 or 2650 v3 has 10 core… (x2 of course)
These are the top ten in our budget. :sad:

#21

Yes, sorry, it only made no sense in the quote, not your original posting.

He already did, maybe read it again, it is fairly comprehensive.

I still can’t imagine why.

To put it absolutely simple
High GHz few cores => Good Workstation, high editor speed, medium rendering speed
Low GHz many cores => Mediocre Workstation, high rendering speed, low editor speed

#22

<- Mash

The general advice is go for a machine with a high GHz speed to make it fast to work with, even if that means having fewer total processing cores. when you are sitting there at the keyboard, you will feel the GHz speed as you are working, all those extra cores will mostly sit there doing nothing. Pretty much only when you press render and go to make some coffee will all those cores truly help.

2.3GHz 20 cores Xeon = 20% faster when rendering
4.4GHz 8 cores i7 = 80% faster whilst working

It isn’t worth losing all that editor speed for such a small improvement in render speed.

#23

Good morning everyone,
I already understand, Srek tell me that Mash were imashination, friend. I don´t know everybody here. _:wink:

OOOk. It is better chose only one i7 oc than 2 xeon. How fast is one i7 5960x oc rendering? Any website with comparations?

Do you wanna read and article for mess more? jajaja I just received it from Boxxtech

http://blog.boxxtech.com/2014/10/02/gpu-rendering-vs-cpu-rendering-a-method-to-compare-render-times-with-empirical-benchmarks/?vyemail=johnsmint@hotmail.com&mkt_tok=3RkMMJWWfF9wsRoguK%2FNZKXonjHpfsXw7eopT%2Frn28M3109ad%2BrmPBy93oMDWp8na%2BqWCgseOrQ8k14OV8OvWs0SrqU%3D

Mesh many thanks and Srek

#24

Check this out
http://www.cbscores.com/
It contains Cinebench comparison values for a lot of systems.
Cinebench is based on Cinema 4D and the results transfer pretty good to other DCC applications.
You can download Cinebench from Maxon http://www.maxon.net/products/cinebench/overview.html and run it on your current system to get an estimate of the difference you can expect.
From the list you can see that the System Mash proposed delivers 136 CB Points Single Threaded, 1319 Multithreaded and 154 for OGL (136/1319/154), all without overclocking. With overclocking it is 170/1707/192
For comparison, a dual E52660(v2) delivers 78/2194/100

#25

Hi Sirs,
Here you are:

NH-D14 SE2011 CPU-cooler,
GeForce GTX 980,
Core™ i7-5960X, CPU,
TT Revolution 87+ 850W,
Urban S71 Window, case,
DVD-liteon,
0cz Vector150 2,5" SSD 240 GB,
X99S XPOWER AC, Mainboard,
WD10EZEX 1 TB blue, hdd,
DIMM 32 GB DDR4-2133 Quad-Kit
Windows 7 pro

I am comparing Price in different shops online. Right now only I have time to looking for in Alternate.de, the best Price for the i7. coming soon more…thks
Nice afternoon

#26

^
Pretty monster current PC!
…
Just my 2cc:
But, I just would ask why 5960X instead of common 5930k?
5960X is extreme series, as I known, and it is way overpriced over 5930K, and ONLY 3-5% faster! OK, maybe even 7-8%, but that’s the limit…

#27

The difference is much more than just 7/8%. When you consider OC potential i7 4930k, 4960k, 5930k and 5820k are all offering very similar performance(about 1200CB points), therefore the cheaper the better. Choosing the 4960 over the 4930 make no sense, same as choosing the 5930 over the 5820. Once OC the 5960k offers 1700points so a big boost in render performance.

#28

The 4, 6 and 8 core chips all have broadly the same cap on core speed, 4.2GHz for a sensible balance, 4.4GHz if you push it and 4.6GHz if you’re really lucky. So a realistic difference from the 6 to 8 core will be ~30% faster as most people should be pressing that OC button regardless of the base cpu clock.

Don’t fall into the trap of comparing a single component, always take the entire system cost when comparing price/performance.

#29

5960x is 8 cores

5930k and 5820 are 6 cores

BIG difference in performance :slight_smile:

#30

Thanks a lot everybody for your advices, these were a big help.

Although…I follow with my little doubt…jajaja. Why Boxx, Mountain or Titanium do emphasis in Xeon dual workstations??? jajaja

Nice day Sirs. Talk soon

p.d. the best Price now a day is in Mindfactory.de

#31

@sentry66
ops! I forgot that!

#32

Good morning Sirs.

I request in my budget Windows 7, but do you think is the best option?
Maybe 8.1, 9, 10… :stuck_out_tongue:

Nice day!

#33

Pick what is listed as compatible to your software and what you are comfortable with.
If you go for a two socket system make sure you get a Windows version that supports it. The home, or other basic licenses, often only support one socket.

#34

just take latest system right now that is win 8.1
it have much better support for newer hardware.
you wouldn’t take windows XP and put on new hardware with ssd and everything…

#35

I was thinking the same of you, but I would like to know more opinions. For example Mesh, what O.S. did you install in your commented last machine?

thanks

#36

Windows 7 supports current hardware just fine, it really comes down to your personal preferences.