New versions 2.4b are up!

[stooch]

so have all the bugs from the original 2.4 been fixed?..I’m reluctant to download yet another update unless it actually works this time, I’ve got a folder full of updates on my desktop & they’ve all had something that doesn’t work…the last one had some wierd mouse issues where I couldn’t even load an item to test out the bugs.

I know that you’re all working hard to get things working but I’d rather not need constant updates & just have a solid app from the get go…is this the one?

oh, & I don’t suppose autorig’s there yet is it?:twisted:

what exactly are you asking here? kinda makes me mad that you are bitching about updates when its obvious that nothing will get fixed without them. Im just happy they are working on the program and actually getting stuff done, if you dont like updates then mabe you should check out realflow? they havent updated the software in years and it doesnt seem like they ever will, sounds like the perfect program for you.

[Taron333]

One last question. When can we expect the PMG site to be updated with info, examples, docs and videos?

And go to BED!

HAHAHAHAHAHA…shiii…ja, ja, ja, I’m gonna go sleep at some point… …with all that action on this thread right now, I’m beginning to think I’m dreaming already!

Anyway, this is going to be a progressive action. First we’ll update the frontpage to get it up to par. I mean…“latest news / october 2005”…tisk, haha…that’s borderline …no I can’t say what this is like! We’re taking care of our face, again, you better believe it! :wip:

Then, soon after, hopefully by the end of this week, the first tutorial clips and other material will come into the mix. It’s a lot of work and we should do that with a good amount of dedication. Besides the tutorial clips I’ll see that I make the proper demo scenes, some docs and some eye-candies as examples as well. I thought about a type of feature gallery, hopefully even collecting some of your achievements. I was mentioning that a few weeks ago already. A user gallery that exposes your work would make everyone and especially me very happy and proud! Maybe we could even start a feature related submission call!

Particle images and clips
Grid shader Gallery
Displacement mapping Gallery (Zbrush used for example!)
Translucency shading Gallery
TextureDeform (so much crazy stuff you can do with that)
Noisette Gallery (…just the same as above!)
DollEyes Gallery (how wicked that one could LOOK…uhu…uhuhu…sorry about that!)

It would be a blast to get that going. :wip:

Anyway, it’s still a dream, really…but I’d really love to hear you guys’n’gals (…are there any girls here? Hmmm…somebody roll the dice…) say:“yup, we’re up for it!”

[stooch]

hey, maybe when you go to sleep, you could dream about a hair implementation? hint hint

[Taron333]

…Im just happy they are working on the program and actually getting stuff done…

Hahaha, settle down, Stooch, but… BIG UP, STOOCH! ME, TOO! In a way, however, I was almost greatful for biliousfrog’s mean response, because he was the one guy, who would express what I was most afraid of! To me and to us of course it’s really unpleasant to having to release several updates in a row. It’s a little embarressing, but then mistakes happen all the time and all we want is that you get the best we can get you. I won’t be shocked if within the next few months there will have to be a few patches for things we’ve never even thought could be wrong (HAhaha), this is just how things go, but right now we’re confident that it’s working beautifully and what is more: The groundwork is layed out for the next level!

Again: THANX, STOOCH!!!

…and really? Realflow is doing that? I had no idea, I thought they did that crazy renderer recently. I can totally see how that could get some developers carried away a bit (giggle, blush, get teary eyed). Hmmm…anyway. Wrong thread…hehe…pfff.

[Taron333]

hey, maybe when you go to sleep, you could dream about a hair implementation? hint hint

Ah fer christ…and I was just toasting to you! :rolleyes:

Yes, yes…the stuff that dreams are made of. And wigs…and the whole shaving industry.
One of these days, the big one’s gonna come, but to get you guys rolling on that latest stuff we’ve got and getting you to exploid it, that’s our first big step!
Look at it this way, if you understand how to use the renderer and how to take advantage of the displacement stuff and the deformation and animation abilities with it, you will know how to make the skin move and look great. By the time you’ve got this all going, the hair and fur will become the perfect addition! Be the active part of evolution with us!

[AAAron]

what exactly are you asking here? kinda makes me mad that you are bitching about updates when its obvious that nothing will get fixed without them. Im just happy they are working on the program and actually getting stuff done, if you dont like updates then mabe you should check out realflow? they havent updated the software in years and it doesnt seem like they ever will, sounds like the perfect program for you.

HAHA, actually the had an update in october last year BTW. check this out:

Me:

Hi wanted to report a major bug in Realflow for OS X

Realflow version 3.1.18.0065

OS X version 10.3.9

If I use the open command and double click on a file, realflow will PERMANENTLY DELETE IT from the drive.
Same thing happens if I double click on a mesh when I try to load it.
If I click one time and press the open button it works as it should.
Luckily I had a backup of the file.

Them:

Hello,

Thank you very much for the report. Unfortunately can’t be fixed for the
moment but it will be sorted out for RealFlow 4.0, coming out very soon.

Yeah right…

sorry for the OT, don´t let this stop you from implenting realflow support though…

[Nichod]

Anyway, this is going to be a progressive action. First we’ll update the frontpage to get it up to par. I mean…“latest news / october 2005”…tisk, haha…that’s borderline …no I can’t say what this is like! We’re taking care of our face, again, you better believe it! :wip:

I contacted PMG about updating there website a week or so ago. I received an email in regards to it and was given permission to setup a preliminary test site for approval. It will be a bit before I can start, but what features do you guys want to see? My primary concern is making it so the site can be easily updated by the PMG crew, without writing up a whole page.

[Taron333]

I contacted PMG about updating there website a week or so ago. I received an email in regards to it and was given permission to setup a preliminary test site for approval. It will be a bit before I can start, but what features do you guys want to see? My primary concern is making it so the site can be easily updated by the PMG crew, without writing up a whole page.

OH, Brian! Yes, of course! Fori told me about your offer! That’s very sweet! Sure, we should continue this one over our privat emails then. Fori and I are still, of course, kept really busy this week to get the current site updated. But we will talk about these ideas than privately, how about it!? Fantastic offer and we really already appreciate it a lot!

ROck oN! :buttrock:

[Taron333]

Here’s a little particle demo scene for you to get started! smoke01 (right click save as)

Has anybody of you already tried it out?

[Nichod]

OH, Brian! Yes, of course! Fori told me about your offer! That’s very sweet! Sure, we should continue this one over our privat emails then. Fori and I are still, of course, kept really busy this week to get the current site updated. But we will talk about these ideas than privately, how about it!? Fantastic offer and we really already appreciate it a lot!

ROck oN! :buttrock:

Sure. Just contact me: http://www.cginsomniac.com/contact

Brian

[biliousfrog]

sorry guys, not trying to stir things up… just that the “b” update arrived really quickly. I wanted to know whether this was a fix for all the bugs in the 2.4 release (& prior) or just a bunch of new tools & improvements. New tools are always welcome but if, like me, you can’t actually use the core program because of interface issues the new tools are wasted.

…sooo…has this release fixed the bugs from 2.4 or just added more stuff to the app?..haha “just”.

That’s not an offensive question is it? I hope not, it’s not intended that way…just asking.

[stooch]

so it arrived TOO quickly? is that a bad thing? would you prefer it arrived in a month or two?

[Nichod]

sorry guys, not trying to stir things up… just that the “b” update arrived really quickly. I wanted to know whether this was a fix for all the bugs in the 2.4 release (& prior) or just a bunch of new tools & improvements. New tools are always welcome but if, like me, you can’t actually use the core program because of interface issues the new tools are wasted.

…sooo…has this release fixed the bugs from 2.4 or just added more stuff to the app?..haha “just”.

That’s not an offensive question is it? I hope not, it’s not intended that way…just asking.

It appears many were fixed. We’ll see over the next few days.

so it arrived TOO quickly? is that a bad thing? would you prefer it arrived in a month or two?

Takes coffee away from stooch:bounce:

[Julez4001]

You can dl it and read the whats new notes during installation but i think soemone posted in the forum already.

hey my transluceny batwings didn’t crashed.
yeah this program is really solid than it use to be.
haven’t crashed yet and just doing render test…

[stooch]

It appears many were fixed. We’ll see over the next few days.

Takes coffee away from stooch:bounce:

I HATE coffee.

i prefer rockstar.

[Nichod]

I HATE coffee.

i prefer rockstar.

No wonder you are wired!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[biliousfrog]

I’m downloading it now, I only have it at home which is why I was asking about it first (at work).

Julez4001 & ThomasHelzle both mentioned that they had similar interface problems which is why I asked about the bug fixes here, I couldn’t see any mention of them in the post about the updates so didn’t want to waste my time…but it’s nearly done, I’ll post any problems asap…if there is any.

[stooch]

well i hope it works out.

btw what does “swollen member” refer to?

[biliousfrog]

haha…the menus still don’t work on my machine…unless I use a standard mouse! For some reason it won’t work with my Wacom Intuos3, neither with the mouse or pen. Shame cos I’ve got used to using the Wacom but I guess I can switch over when I use Messiah…still odd though.

Thanks fellas, time to start playing…

[Nichod]

Odd. My Wacom works fine. I’m not sure how much influence the tablet drivers have on everything, but worth a look?