Navone selling his "Aliensong" Model for teenie-band trash!


#1

Whoa, I couldn’t believe it - Just zapped through the TV program as I saw Navones Aliensong Model “Blit Wizbok” dancing in a music video of a really bad german teenie band called “Banaroo” (http://www.banaroo.de). The animations were really crappy, I gotta say.

By all means, but: When will this trash finally stop, and: Do we artists really have to support this kind of money-making bullsh*t? Navone is a well-known animator and the aliensong made him really popular: Was it really necessary to sell this work, so it’ll be used for a teenie-band that’s musically on about the same level as all of that ringtone-shit that became so popular in the last few months?

I hope they at least payed him good enough…


#2

Everyone has to do crappy work sometimes. It pays the bills.


#3

What are they? This generation’s ABBA? :wink:


#4

Maybe he likes their music. You just can’t say.


#5

It’s his own property and he can do whatever he wants with it, in my opinion and I don’t think there is a need to comment on it.


#6

Are you sure he sold it to them? I couldn’t find anything about him on the site. Its a pretty simple model, its possible someone just made it from scratch.


#7

@Leigh: I know that, believe me. But the question is, if it was really necessary for him to “sell his soul” for such a piece of crap. As far as I know, he’s working at Pixar, doing a good job - Selling your work for something like that is just… blah. As an artist, you should have some kind of “responsibility for your work”.

Of course, this attitude is kinda romantic, but now we’re going to see his model everywhere - On MTV, in Ringtone Commercials, etc.

Personally, I’m disappointed and seeing this made me really, really sad.


#8

No but this is.


#9

So, what are you going to do when you get out of school?


#10

He didn’t sell his soul neither his brain or his talents and creativity. If it was for good money i say why not? and BTW its been many years since this happened, so its rather old news. :slight_smile:


#11

If he is getting paid for it I say more power to him. Maybe it went towards his kids education or a fine bottle of Vodka?

What if someone offered you a bunch of money for the rights to use a model that you made for a short several years ago that you haven’t even looked at since then?


#12

It’s not only romantic, but naive and juvenile. I’m always amused by preachers.

btw, if I recall correctly from the Hash mailing list, Victor sold the rights to Blitz a while ago, around 2000 or so to a German company. And more power to him.


#13

It would be sad for it to turn into another of these crap crazy frog type adverts, but the power of consumer idiocy is overwhelming so it probably will


#14

Quoted for agreement. Idealism is for those who have never had to work a day in their life…


#15

True true true.

: Was it really necessary to sell this work,

If you pay him, then he won’t have too. Talking don’t make problems go away.


#16

and if Navone wouldn’t have sold his model, someone else would have. Can’t prevent crazy frogs and the like from happening, especially not when you get good cash for it.

Granted if I were the crazy frog artist, I might fear for my life being under threat from people being annoyed by that ring tone :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:


#17

I doubt he feels that the model represents his soul. He’s probably got personal projects (and the stuff he does for pixar) that he’s much more attached to. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with having ideals about what you want your work used for, but that doesn’t mean that everything single thing you do has to be so important.

I used to play saxophone professionally, and to make a living, i had to play music that i didn’t really like. i still had fun playing it. it was much better than a normal 9-5 job. i didn’t feel that i was selling my soul, cause i’d go home and play/write/record music that i liked and that i did have an emotional attachment to. i feel much more like i’m selling my soul now that i work a crappy sales job, even though all the artistic work i do is only for me.


#18

The title of this thread is misleading. It makes it sound as though Victor KNEW what they were going to use the model for before he agreed to sell it. Not that it really matters one way or the other.

The bottom line is that once he sold it, the people who bought it can do anything they want with it. No matter the sentimental feelings the public may hold.

Art


#19

Dude, don’t you think you’re taking this all a little too deep? I mean, it’s just a character. He didn’t sell his soul, he sold a piece of work. If you cannot seperate yourself from your work, you’re not likely to get very far in this industry.

I really don’t understand why this is such a big issue for you.


#20

Are you there agent ?

No …

Then don’t worry about what they sell & whome they sell it to.