Moving on after A:M


#61

Hi everybody !

I believe that it doesn’t matter which software you use. Violet, you may take this advise from a discreet employee :

You can read the whole thread here : http://support.discreet.com/webboard/wbpx.dll/~3dsmax/guests (“Wish List” -> “3DSMax is going to die?” ) Funny thread name, heh !


#62

Ah! I get it now. Violet obviously thinks Hash has a connection to the narcotic and these images are the visions of a particularly lucid trip. Possibly one that’s still in progress. Either that or you think you’re in the Teletubbies forum. That’s not to bash the budding artist inside you…God knows I wish it would take control…but this is a 3D forum.:thumbsup:


#63

Hmmm - the “Boobs Guy” - I like it :wink:

I can’t complain about the support I’ve gotten from Hash recently - I can’t imagine a better situation than when I was working with Bob Croucher on Dynamic Constraints - he was very helpful. What I was pseudo-commenting on is that you would never see that kind of support response out of Alias/Wavefront or Discrete…I was really surprised.

Nope - haven’t dumped AM no matter what Miss Pinhea… - er - Violet903 says - just another tool in the box next to AM, Messiah Studio, LW, C4D, Maya, and Electric Image Universe - all of which I legitimately own and use… unlike our resident troll…

Ya just use the one that works best for the job at hand…

God I love the ignore list…

JoeW


#64

I own a LEGAL version of C4D and XSI ! ( imagine that, Joe ! … and piracy is a serious crime… ). Wanna try the limbo thingy ? :rolleyes:

I also got a diploma in computer science and a well paid job (where i have to use XSI, Maya, LW & Max ) so dont think i’m the usual troll or a “cg groupy”. I pretty know what i’m talking about. The point i’m trying to make here is that Hash made a mistake a long time ago (prefered Patches over Polygons) and now suffers the consequences.It was a nice thing 15 years ago because there were no alternatives at this time. But they just can’t handle patches and the cap between them and the whole rest of the cg world will only get bigger. (And for those having even trouble installing simple addons for XSI : It’s the Frankenstein thingy :slight_smile: ! ). I’m not really blaming Hash for not being able to deliver the basic standard tools and quality because i know how difficult the patch theory is. But they should have accept the consequences and moved towards Polygons after the big Sub-D revolution :slight_smile: I know i will get the usual answers that this hash patches are soooo elegant to use and sooo much better than polygons but that’s simple not true. You have to see the whole picture, pros and contras !

And if all of you REALLY want me to leave… :frowning:


#65

violet903, personally I don’t have a problem with points of view that differ from my own. However, you really need to back up your argument with some examples or you look like a troll. Just point us to a few of your renders that illustrate what you consider difficiencies in AM. This has been done in the past on this forum and Hash addressed them in the next version. What you demonstrate may end up improving AM, so I’m interested. If you have a scene from one of the packages you use, you could post it so that someone here could convert it to AM and then comparisons can be made. If it’s a workflow difference, you could record a video using Camtasia or a similar capture utility and make it available for download. It’s really silly to argue over a tool, in the end it’s the person using the tool that makes the difference.

If this doesn’t turn into a productive discussion, my vote is for ending it.


#66

I honestly don’t understand giving this troll the time of day. Its one thing to be contrarian (sp?) for a useful reason, but contrariain for the sake of being difficult … well … we’re never going to convince this person of anything. I have read this entire thread and am convinced that Violet is just here for the sport of it.

Good bye.


#67

"This message is hidden because violet903 is on your ignore list.</SPAN> "

God, I love the ignore list… LOL!

JoeW


#68

Ok. . .

Due to popular demand. . . this thread is closed.

This is only the second time I have EVER done this so please don’t go thinking I’m on some kinda wanker power trip or something.

Violet, I really wished you had produced some form of credibility as you did bring up what I also consider very valid common complaints against Hash Patch technology that could have been fun to discuss. You just do it in such an inflamitory un-justified un-educated way. . . that it sucks the fun out of it.