Messiah bone deformation vs LW

[adrencg]

Some of you who use Messiah are probably from the Lightwave camp…

Do Messiah’s bones deform the object in a way that is better looking than Lightwave? I don’t have too much problem animating in Lightwave(except for the slowness, but I can get around that), but getting the joints to deform correctly is a major pain.

Let’s say Messiah makes better deformations…when sending the bone animation from Messiah to LW, will LW bones deform the object the same way Messiah does? Probably not. So would I have Messiah’s great animation keyframes plus LW’s crappy deformation?

[maks]

Messiah’s bone deformation accuracy is miles ahead from LW’s - they call messiah’s bones “smart bones”, and the name is deserved - LW’ bones are a pain, messiah’s bones are a breeze, seriously And you don’t send messiah’s animation to LW’s bones, but you send the displaced mesh to LW, either through a direct connection, or through mdd files, like with Point Oven. So you always get the exact same deformation in LW than what you have in messiah - whooot

[adrencg]

Messiah’s bone deformation accuracy is miles ahead from LW’s - they call messiah’s bones “smart bones”, and the name is deserved - LW’ bones are a pain, messiah’s bones are a breeze, seriously And you don’t send messiah’s animation to LW’s bones, but you send the displaced mesh to LW, either through a direct connection, or through mdd files, like with Point Oven. So you always get the exact same deformation in LW than what you have in messiah - whooot

So Messiah’s connection talks to the mesh in Lightwave, not the bones? I know about Point Oven and hear great things about it.

Mike

[maks]

So Messiah’s connection talks to the mesh in Lightwave, not the bones? I know about Point Oven and hear great things about it.

Mike

Yep, messiah’s direct connection for mesh deformation is a displacement plugin for LW, as is Point Oven. The difference between PO and the direct connection is, that with PO you write out mdd files from messiah, which are read in realtime in LW (not cached, as with LW’s mdd reader). Messiah’s direct connection plugin reads the displacement directly out of messiah in realtime - you can check out this video on the pmG site to see how it works: http://www.projectmessiah.com/x4/vids/Using_messiah_As_A_Plugin.wmv. Most people use PointOven though, because it has certain advantages. Messiah now also exports mdd files natively. Hope this helps.

[pelos]

the bones in messiah are great, you might need to think a little more, and put some holders bones, because there are no way to use weight maps, (yet,i am pretyy sure that will add that feature in the future) .
also i think the last version of messiah can save mdd. as well.

but yea, after you play with messiah for rigs and animation, bye bye LW

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