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#121

Nice work edehlert, default.rol

I had time to do another copy, still practicing my hatch shading.

Ball point pen :slight_smile:

#122

I’m liking your copy too, enialadam :thumbsup: !!

Done another Burne Hogarth one - just done in my sketchbook this time -

I’m still on course for my “1 master copy per day” until the CGWorkshop begins… lol!

MIKE

#123

Mike,

Great stuff!!! In your first Hogarth copy, the upper arm is a bit too small / atrophied for the lower, but I am really impressed with your line flow and the confidence with which especially the lower arm and hand were executed. I am also really digging the last arm study, which I think shows a lot of investment and improvement over other drawings of yours which I’ve seen. Good to see this work!

enialadam,

Great study! I think his left hand is a bit small, as well as, erm, but overall this is a really nice piece! Keep at it! I would love to see more. :slight_smile:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#124

Thank you for the supportive words RK - especially coming from someone who was taught by him AND has practiced these drawings in her sketchbook too (no doubt!) Thx. :thumbsup:

Now all I need to do next week is to start learning what it is I’m actually drawing… ROFL!

Cheers

MIKE

#125

Now all I need to do next week is to start learning what it is I’m actually drawing… ROFL!

They have this cool new newfangled thang called ‘Reading’! :scream: Lol! :scream:

Cheers,

~Rk

#126

Hehe thanks Rebecca :smiley:

Thanks default.rol too :slight_smile: great new sketch!

#127

I’m getting into Burne Hogarth now… not too sure this is a good copy of a drawing of his, but I learned that Hogarth must have been drawing A1 or bigger to get curves like the original - my tiny sketchbook just can’t compete. Oh well… :rolleyes:

[left]I really want to keep going with these and work out basic forms in muscle groups - but I would love to be able to draw like Loomis after I have this knowledge. When I do finally work out what is actually going on anatomically speaking, I might try to do some of his work. Watch for future posts.

MIKE
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#128

Mike,

EXCELLENT stuff here! This is by far the strongest of your copies (at least of Hogarth’s) that I’ve seen so far. :applause:

No worries, we will be looking at examples of Hogarth’s drawings in the Workshop. You are more than welcome to go beyond the basic exercises and do copies of Hogarth’s work if you choose to do so (I recommend it).

Hogarth, when doing his demonstrations at least, worked on giant oversized newsprint pads (24" x 36") which allowed him to draw in sweeping gestures while still being able to get details using the wide~diameter square nupastel chalk which he used. I imagine that he also used the square blocky charcoal sticks which you can usually buy in packs.

While some say that the Old Masters drew fairly small, I think that is to one’s advantage to draw large as well ~ at least as large as a standard size newsprint pad. This allows you to get a range of motion in your arm which, as you know, you are not able to get on a small sketch pad.

Great to see your work, and I think we might just be able to whip you into shape after all! :scream:

Cheers, :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#129

Rk ~

What is a “newsprint” pad anyway? :shrug: You are always talking about them… LOL! :smiley: What is “nupastel chalk” too???

MIKE
#130

Mike,

ROFL, are you from Mars? :scream: Totally kidding you…

Newsprint paper comes in pads of all sizes, such as:
http://www.dickblick.com/zz103/11/

It’s basically the same cheap paper that newpapers are printed on, only, of course, blank ~ it comes with rough and smooth surface, tho here, at least, they have ceased to make smooth newsprint available (much to my chagrin). It also comes in all sizes. Throughout my school days, I drew with 6B General’s Charcoal Pencils on 18" × 24" Newsprint pads. I have about a billion of them taking up valuable real estate space in my parents’ basement, lol! :scream:

NuPastels are basically oil pastels, which come in sets (and separately, I think):
http://www.jerrysartarama.com/art-supply-stores/online/1933

They also have this new fangled thang called ‘Google’ which can answer lots of your questions! :scream:

Just kidding ya. :slight_smile:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

#131

Everytime I google for the stuff you talk about I seem to get the wierdest things, so I have stopped trying to work out what some of these things are, and just ask. Its less painful and confusing. :smiley:

Hope you are prepared for my “million and one” questions that will arise during the workshop! LOL. :eek:

MIKE

#132

[left]Can’t count this morning, it seems! :scream:
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#133

Burne Hogarth copy - Female torso. Page 129 of Dynamic Anatomy

I think I need to do this one a couple of times to get it to look right. I can’t seem to get the muscularity and curves right at the same time. Perhaps I need to draw some female bodybuilders or something before attempting it again… :smiley:

MIKE

#134

Mike,

Attempting this a second time will only help you. Go for it! :slight_smile: You’re definitely getting the idea, and I think are really taking to Hogarth, which is great! What type of pencil are you using? The exterior of the form is expressed quite nicely, it is the interior which needs more work. Hogarth’s drawings can be intricate and confusing, and it requires patience to muck through them. I’ve done a lot of copies of his work using ballpoint pen, but I think your use of charcoal or pastel here is quite nice ~ definitely stick with it.

Cheers! :slight_smile:

~Rebeccak

#135

I want that Hogarth book! I really want it! o_O

#136

fooxoo,

Hogarth has a whole series of great books, which you may be aware of ~

Crap, I tried to post the Amazon.com link, and I get an error, but if you just go to Amazon.com and search for “Burne Hogarth”, you should be able to find his whole series of books. :slight_smile:
I recommend Dynamic Anatomy, Drawing Dynamic Hands, and Dynamic Figure Drawing. :slight_smile: I think you’d really like these! :slight_smile:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

#137

Thanks :smiley: I ll check it out. I wanna get those books :slight_smile:

#138 
    Rk ~

I’m currently roughing out with an 8/9B pencil and then using a 9B compressed graphite stick to punch it out. After scanning it in, I am cleaning it up slightly in photoshop - (not much though as I think it would look too digital then, and it is not a digital sketch.)

You can berrate me about my lack of skill in drawing these from Monday, Rk… :smiley:

    @fooxoo

If you are interested in illustration for other than just figure use, I would really recommend Burne Hogarths’ book - “Dynamic light and shade” in addition to Rebecca’s list. It shows examples of lighting figures to start with, but then progresses on to environments and natural phenomena - (He draws ICE CUBES MELTING on page 120!) I am two books short of the full lot listed on amazon, and I think I might just pick them up in the near future.

If you are looking to copy figures other than Hogarth, download the zip file .pdf of ALL of Loomis’ book that magicman made available on this very forum! Now that guy was good… :thumbsup:

heres the link to his post -

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=2453167&postcount=3

    MIKE
#139

Work in progress here… This is my first master painting copy. I’m doing this one in Painter (grrr *$%#@!) and so far, it’s going ok. I can see some anatomy problems and will work on the face width. I printed it off on photo paper to view while I work on it so the colours are now off. I also need to work on that because they’re much warmer in the Hals version.

This represent about 1.5 - 2 hours of work today. It’s a copy of Frans Hals painting, circa 1627, “Verdonck”. Here’s the original

I would have done this in oil if I could but I only have pencils and a sketchbook. I’m going to have to buy some traditional art supplies one day soon and really immerse myself and learn.

#140

Amerasu,

Great to see you doing this! I’ve done a few Hals copies myself, but sadly, they are lost to history dump ROFL… :slight_smile: but he is a great artist to learn from, and for Painter, it is kind of perfect ~ you can get some of those broad, loose brushstrokes which he used.

Let’s see where this goes, and then make some comments…one thing I notice, at least on my monitor, is that the hues in the original are a bit warmer ~ but that is something that is easy to tweak ~ I would continue to focus, as you are, on basic value and drawing establishment.

I do think it’s a good idea to work in both traditional and digital media. Unless you have extraordinary amounts of time and money, it’s tough to go through a complete traditional training and then embark upon a digital training in terms of painting…so if you can work on both approaches in tandem, I think it’s best (for most of us).

Keep pecking away at values, and think about this as a Value Drawing vs. a Painting.

Good luck, and looking forward to seeing where this goes! :slight_smile:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak