Master and Servant 3D Entry: Robert Turner

#55

Not a lad for bright colours, when just about everyone wore bows and silk. All the work here is going to be getting his calves right

#56

A job I hate. needs a bit more work with the old bones but it’s better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

#57

I workded on his shoe for about an hour, and found I had the old super glued toe with bones. Pretty dim, I should have made his foot with him standing on points like a ballet dancer to get the bone to work proper. Oh well, it’s all part of god’s great learning curve. :cry:

#58

Dem bones, dem bones, dem pesky bones… i feel your pain Stoat. The Bard is lookin cool though, keep up the good work.

#59

Thanks Handlebar :smiley: It’s the beauty of 3d, having to learn osteopathy on top of all the other stuff. I don’t think I’ve had a hot cup of, anything, since I got into this.

#60

It’s Shaky’s birthday today :slight_smile: :applause: :applause:

I put the two characters together in the theatre and ran into memory problems :cry: So I dumped the theatre and lizzy’s hair to free it up a bit.

I think that I’ll now use frontal projection, generate uv’s, and paint on the bumps and hair for just the one view. I suppose this will make it a sort of 3d/2d hybrid and not really allowed in either competition category but at least I’ll end up with some sort of finished work.

My own fault, I go out the door saying, “more ram, or lots of beer” you can guess which wins every time :argh: :hmm:

#61

screen grab of the two together.

#62

some nice work, and engaging commentary, im jealous of your progress :applause:

one thing, its not obvious to those unaware of helger(such as myself) just how this conveys the ‘master / servant’ relationship…could you elaborate on this pls, just so i can understand and enjoy the image more. :slight_smile:

thanks.

#63

Hegel was a German idealist philosopher, who wrote a whole lot of stuff on the master and servant. he looks at alienation but he splits it into two mirrors, the alienation of the servant differs from that of the master. The master sees himself in the world but it’s ultimately empty because the master has merely ordered the world. The servant fails to see him/herself in a world that they have in fact created. Both destroy each other and power resides in an abstraction seeming to impose itself from the outside.

Elizebeth and Shakespeare struck me as a bit more of a subtle look at this dual aspect to man’s alienation. There are loads of ways that you can play the master and servant game with them. Which is which? Oddly, I can say that there is a nod towards feminism in this, yet I haven’t seen one entry yet that addresses that issue head on. Nobody must have heard John Lennon"s, “woman is the slave of the slave.”

I’l lighten up now. Talking about that, i’ve only got two lights in this, I feel stupid putting in a lighting shot of two lights. Yet the Elizebethan tonal mind seemed to go for a two light set up. Really the sun and a bounced light.

Back to the grind of trying to get these people’s hair right :cry: :cry:

#64

whoa! im gonna have to take a minute to get my head around that…thanks for explainingthough. /me googles hegel…/me googles idealist…/me googles philosophy.

…/me googles german.

:wink:

#65

Emanuel Kant is the guy for frying the old grey cells. He wrote a book, the “Critique of Pure Reason,” the size of a small office block. No one could understand it, so his publisher asked him to do a short explanation book. The explanation book is the size of the Empire State Building, and people have to read the first book to try and work out what the hell the “simple” explanation book is on about. :smiley:

Anyways, I tried that frontal mapping idea and no go. The aspect ratio for the background image is out so the maps don’t fit right. I think i could get it to work but i don’t want to be faffing about with that with so little time left to do this chall. So it’s back to uvmapper to get te textures on :banghead:

Perhaps if someone invented a box with a lens and silver coated paper, we could point it at people and create a facimile of them on the paper :slight_smile: I think I’ll patent the idea and call it a “stoatotype facimile duotonal whatsit.” Everyone will want one and 3d graphics companies will go out of business :bounce: :bounce:

#66

Improved her hair, I think with the bump map on it it wil look pretty good.

#67

Well, uvmapper was no good, so I worked out how to frontal map the model image back onto the model and paint the hair on.

#68

I did a test render with my one light; sunlight; switched off but prefered it back on as it adds a sort of oil painting effect which i think fits the period quiet well.

#69

i’ll tell u what, that hair has come out well, good job.

#70

Cheers :thumbsup: do your friends call you six foot by the way :slight_smile:

When I thought I’d frontally map the first render back onto the scene, I gave it a test. Now, I had planned on painting over the face a basic skin tone and adding some noise. The frontal texture has skin tones form the first render, so rendering again darkens it, if you follow me. But I like the effect the way it is, it gives it a sort of Holbien look. An Elizebethan digital camera would have a scummble button on it I think. It would be a shock to time travellers to find that all their snaps came back in the art styles of the period visited :applause: All ones sneaky portrait shots of Cleopatra coming back from Boots as profile shots :smiley: Great stuff; qauntum mechanics is a strange and terrible thing.

Changing the subject; I always take a look at the top of the challenge thread when I post. So I can see how many “look sees” I’ve had. Weird stuff :argh: :hmm: Some people have billions of hits and others hardly any :eek: Is there any chance of putting up a couple of new smileys? I want a Freemasons one and a Knights of Columbo. Not that I would be so unprincipled as to use them of course. Well, maybe on the last picture, if i knew what secret body the judges were in. My luck I’d pick the wrong smiley :cry: :cry:

#71

hey stoat, i dont understand the problem u r having with uv mapping???

and who the hell are the knights of columbo? :eek: ur right about the lacking range of smileys , sometimes its hard to convery the subtle nuances of an expresion with just a choice of either a :wise: or a :bounce: .

#72

Another post to add to your tally Stoat. I think your characters are coming along splendidly, they are going to make a fine couple.

#73

Lizzy is looking real good in her new hair - nice job :thumbsup:

#74

I put the poor git’s eyebrows too high up. still, it’s looking a bit better than it was. I don’t think I’ll finish this though, it’s just nowhere near good enough.