Master and Servant 3D Entry: Reinier Lensink

#1

Reinier Lensink has entered the Master and Servant 3D.

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Latest Update: Concept Sketch: closeup

This is close up of another concept sketch im finalizing at the moment. Sorry not much info at the moment. Be right back.

#2

Hey all at CGTalk! Dont know if i can finish this on time. (work,work! :argh: ) But this topic is to good to pass. :smiley:

i will post some ideas later on today.

Good luck to all participants!

!S Reinier

#3

welcome reiner and good luck … i’ll be lookin for a post :thumbsup:

#4

Thanks Pigwater :slight_smile:

The thing i still have trouble with is conveying an emotion in my work. So i hope to learn some more with this challenge as you are almost forced to do so. I hope to keep it as close to earth as possible. Hopefully something iconic.

I’m going to ramble a bit now. Just some ideas about the topic and possible themes for my piece. I warned ya.

With a topic like Master & Servant, slavery comes easily to mind. Although not necessarily in the sense of the man with the wip beating the poor worker, but maybe in other ways. People can be slaves of themselves, slaves of a society (and that society as a whole being the slave of a small group of people or even 1 person)

The Master & Servant relationship could also be shown as symbiotic. The survival and wealth of the master depending on the servants (which is ,ofcourse, always the case), and the servants on the other hand depending on the well being of their master. This one sounds very interesting personaly.

As said earlier the wealth of the master is almost always depending on the hard work of the servant. What would happen when the servants are starting to pull themselves free?

By the way: the terms Master and servant as used in the “ideas” above are more like concepts. Not representing specific persons at the moment.

hmm im bit tipsy so i’m going to marinade over this some more overnight and try come up with other concepts.

!S reinier

#5

I’m drawing concept images at the moment between my work (but its saturday!.. yes i know) :stuck_out_tongue:

I want to share some thoughts with you all.

Ok here is one of my ideas and i hope to get some C&C.

Picture a rather high, massive looking tower. on top stands the Master… the one who always seeks more power and rise higher and higher. He sees his people as disposable tools for reaching that goal.

Soldiers, workers, all kinds of people are “pouring” onto the foundation of the tower. The closer they get to the tower the more and more they begin to rot and desintegrate. This keeps on going until the only things that is left of them are bare bones and skulls. These very remains make up the foundation of the tower and make it go higher and higher.

The top of the tower is made up of clean white stone signifying the fact that although the master is fully aware of what he is doing to the people, he surrounds himself in a blissfull place.

[color=White]Hmm damn hard to translate my thoughts clearly in english… so hopefully later today some concept drawings. i have other ideas, but they need more time :smiley:

cya

~ Rrrrreinierrrrrr
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#6

heres a quick sketch for the tower idea. Still working on the details and overall shape of the building… Also still pondering on how to make it clear that this is being “build” at the expense of human beings.

I also want to try different styles of the merging of the corpses, skelletons with the structure.

C&C very much appreciated!

#7

Hi Reinier,
Impressive scetch!
Philosophical idea I’d say…
I think it would be more impressive if in fundament of a tower there was also some shape wisible from spectator’s point of view. I mean some giant screaming and suffering face forming that dark relief, covering a hillside of a tower…
The tragedy of those lying under tower will be increased and underlined more!

don’t hesitate visiting my M&S page

#8

Hey Deryk thanks mate! I’am indeed worrying if it will be clear enough. the meaning aswell as the details. Still working on composition so we’ll see what happens. A face (or multiple faces) like you describe could indeed help. Thanks man :thumbsup:

I’m still working on other ideas but i still prefer this one.

~ Reinierrr

#9

hey man I really like the idea and the sketch. it’s good to look @ slavery in a different aspect i.e slave to oneself, slave to society

#10

little sketch for another idea… 3 people controlled by wires. A buisness man, a drugs addicted girl and another one i havent thought up. I hope its obvious what kind of direction i want.

right now thinking by whom they could be controlled… maybe some sort of demonic looking “machine”. sounding a bit vague heh? need to sketch faster to make it more clear.

~ rR

#11

Hey Marcus_B, thanks :slight_smile: hopefully i can translate one of the ideas in an image.

~ R

#12

Hi Reinier,
oh, I see you are full of ideas!
As for me your idea with castlle is better - with first one you can obtain really epic and impressing piece. There will be lots of characters involved, contrast between “far and close” and dark heavy atmosphere, ash… It tells a story and second one - no, only symbols.
That first idea seems to me to be more fresh.
After all, poor bussinessman - perhaps he was working all his life and now he is a bad guy:)

Go no - good process is always wanted

my MASTER/&/servant XXX

#13

This is close up of another concept sketch im finalizing at the moment. Sorry not much info at the moment. Be right back.

#14

Hey Reinier
I don’t know the story but this one looks great!!!
So warm and even now full of some mystery…
Some feelings, don’t know exactly but I sympathise this picture:)

Keep on a good work!

my MASTER/&/servant XXX

#15

I really like where you going with your sketches sofar, especially your last one. Looking forward to your entry :slight_smile:

#16

Hey Reinier,

you have a realy nice hand in drawing! great lines&coloring! The businessman concpt is pretty surreal and wil need a strong story to make an impact i guess. anyway i love the atmosphere and hope to see more.

maybe for some advice, try to think about the ‘why’s’ of the image. Why are people going to the central character. Also, it is possible to be discontinuous about time & space in the image. hehe… what i mean is the tower is great punt it will put alot of distance between us and the main character. Maybe put the character dominantly in the front directly showing his greatness, leaving his tower symbolicly in the back. We’ll still believe it’s his tower, this is al about the psychologie and the relations in the image, good luck on it and be free to experiment!

Jairo

#17

Deryk: Thanks man. I think i have to drop the tower/castle idea. It looks to much like a battlefield in all the concepts i have drawn. I may come up with a solution, but i need to move on.

CgMonkey: thanks :smiley: we’ll see what happens.

Comments much apreciated :thumbsup:

~ Reinier

#18

Jairobbo: :beer: Dank dank. Yeah and not to mention that something has to control the buisnessman. Couldnt think of anything nice so ill drop that idea. The “why” of the images is what i if find so important. i’m not going to model anything until i have something with an interesting story. (that could mean i wont be modeling anything this challenge :surprised :argh: )

Anyways… thanks for advice.

~ Reinier
#19

Great sketches. I really like the large overpowering epic feel I think the first one has, but I think your latest one offers a greater opportunity for conveying powerful emotion. Good luck I’m defiantly interested in how this turns out.

#20

Hi Reinier, Awsome work so far dude :thumbsup: You are talented thats for sure. I read you are going to drop the tower idea… I would just like to say what sprung to my mind while reading… An old movie I remember from years ago about the Egyptians and their methods of building pyrimids
I remember huge teams of men hauling massive stones and gaurds whatching over them. Lots of scaffolding and dust around the work site and the designers and nobels in full view looking on while drinking wine…The main structure is not yet complete and many stones are yet to be put into place… Slaves dropping to their knees in exhaustion and some delirious and trying to escape only to be struck down by the hand of the master…

Maybe this could help you in some way… I look forward to seeing where you take this… Good luck with you work and here is a :thumbsup: