Master and Servant 3D Entry: Ben Schoeffler

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Ben Schoeffler has entered the Master and Servant 3D.

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Latest Update: Modeling: Slow progress…

Well here is my slow progress. I fixed the hands as much as I could and I added some wind to the dress and a bra and hair. I’m not sure if the hair looks OK, i could use some critiques on improving it. I’m totally slammed with work so I think I’m going to have to cut down the quality on some of the models if I intend to finish this project in the tiem allotted (which I do). Comments and critiques very welcome!

#2

Good luck everyone, and don’t forget to add links in your signatures!!

Shaykai

#3

Good luck on your entry. :slight_smile:

#4

thank ArtisticVisions, I just came up with a fantastic idea and i’m going to get it down on paper before anyone else has it!!

Shaykai

#5

Good luck.

#6

Have Fun and Good Luck :thumbsup:

#7

Well here is my idea so far. Basicall there is a guy who has the ability to control ghosts, but he doesn’t just control any ghosts, he only controls those who have commited suicide. I’m sure i will figure out some way for the master to control them that is obvious to the viewer, probably an amulet or something that he holds. All the ghosts behind him will be reinacting their deaths which they are damned to do while they are in his service. It’s hopefully going to be a very dark image, but i’m trying to figure out a way to make it have a twinge of hope. I’m contemplating the reason that he controles these ghosts is he visits those about to commit suicide and scares them out of it. Or something like that. I’m not entirely sure yet since the challenge was only released 45 minutes ago :slight_smile: Anyway, tell me what you guys think of my idea!!! (oh yeah, pardon my horrible drawing skills)

#8

Hahaha weeeeeeee first one to submit anything for this challenge :slight_smile:

Shaykai

#9

Best of luck, that’s definitely an “outside the box” idea you have there.

#10

Off and running already… Well, it’s a decent concept, bit Frightenerish. Making ghosts could be a whole lot of fun, there are so many possibilities.

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Haha thanks Kjc, I’m hoping it will evoke a lot of emotion and pitty from the viewer for the ghosts. I think the reason i came up with it was because i’ve been listening ot the ring/ring two soundtrack for the past 2 hours :slight_smile:

Shaykai

#12

I’ve never seen frighteners, but i think i’ve seen the movie box (i used to work at a video rental store). Is that the one with michael J fox?

Shaykai

#13

Wow man look at you getting started already! :twisted:

#14

Yep that’s the movie. His wife died mysteriously in an autowreck (he was driving) and since then he’s aboe to communicate with ghosts. So, he’s a lonely, depressed grifter and he teams up with these three ghosts and makes living by shaking people down for money by having the ghosts haunt their houses while he comes in as a paranormal investigator and chases the ghosts out. There’s more to it. It’s a fun movie, actually.

#15

Haha, sounds like a fun movie, i’ll have to check it out :slight_smile:

#16

Well here’s what I have so far, it’s the head of an asian girl. She’s suppose to look about 16 years old or so, but it seems like she looked younger about halfway through the modeling process than she does now :frowning: Any tips on making her look younger and more ‘asian’? I’m not sure about her outfit yet (tempting to go with the schoolgirl outfit…) or how her hair is going to look. I’m pretty sure she is going to be the one slitting her own throat with a kitchen knife. That does seem an odd way to commit suicide (although i’ve heard true stories of people decapitating themselves with chainsaws as ways of committing suicide). I’m trying to get as much done as quick as possible since I have to model about 4 characters and I want it to look good. Also i was wondering if 6 hours is about average it takes people to model a head to this stage? I realize more tweaks need to be made, but is that fast or slow or about average speed?

I also figured out more of the story I think. Well the master is going to be a ‘priest’ most likely, in his hand is going to be probably the bible and a book with the title “Is suicide REALLY the answer?” or something to that effect. Basically i’m set on the idea of a priest or councellor scaring young people out of suicide by meeting them at their home or his office and basically he calls his ghost servants out and it scares the pants off the person wanting to commit suicide. Although, i’m struggling with a way to show this all in one image. Ideas? Changes to the story perhaps? Basically the only ideas that i’m officiall married to are:

  1. The ghosts have to be suicide victims
  2. The person controlling them has to somehow show that he is controlling them. I’m thinking showing glowing chains from his hand to the ankles of all the ghosts.

Anyway, feel free to give me hard critiques, really let me have it, i love honest critiques!!!

Thanks everyone for looking, time for me to get some sleep!

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I guess more tips on how to make my model look more female/asian/younger. hehe :slight_smile: Thanks all!

Shaykai

#18

off to a flyer. as for the model, it seems as if the eyes are spaced a bit far apart. Also, the cheeks look a bit manly i think. do yuo have many reference images?

#19

Well, if you go with the priest character as the master, you can make it so that he is holding a glowing rosary while the ghost where a rosary around their necks too. I think chains would be a bit too cliche. Just a thought. And about the girls face, well younger people usually have softer/rounder features, not so well-defined. I am sure you can find plenty of young asian girls for refrence. Maybe puffier cheeks could help; I have an asian friend who is 19 and she can pass off as a 16 year old because her facial features are soft and her cheeks are kind of puffy. The nose could use some work, looks like the clay is pinched. Bottom lip could be a bit smaller, but that just might be personal prefrence. You got started quick. Turning up the heat already huh? I’d just recommennd some refrences and you should be good.

#20

joshcxa - I think you are right about the eyes, i thought i read somehwere that asian eyes are spaced slightly farther apart than other races. But if it looks odd, I will fix it :slight_smile: Thanks!

ace4016 - I really love the idea of the glowing rosary in his hand and around the necks of the ghosts!! I’m definitly going to use it! I also think you were right about the rounder faces, i think thats what made it look younger in the beginning of my modeling, later in the model i stretched the face out a bit and defined features more :slight_smile: I will definitly soften it up. As for the nose, i think that my lighting/material makes it look weird. I’ll post a screen capture tomorrow (well i guess later today, its 3am!!) and hopefully the nose won’t look as weird. I really want to get a specific nose for this character, kind of a young, pushed up cute little nose that PoshSpice usually has on her drawings.

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=221372

But then again, that might not fit the ethnicity i have chosen for this model. What does everyone think?

Oh yeah, I specifically made the lips a little larger than normal. I want to make them ‘poutier’ than they are now, kind of like a younger version of Qi Shu lips. Maybe not that big, but you get the idea.

http://images.google.com/images?q=Qi+Shu&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search

I feel like a frankenstein mixing and matching all my favorite parts of different women :slight_smile: haha. Oh the joy of CG.

Shaykai