Master and Servant 2D Entry: Patricio Berríos Lobos


#1

Patricio Berríos Lobos has entered the Master and Servant 2D.

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Latest Update: Concept Sketch: holy cow!

exagerated the situation a bit. the black paste shouldn’t be so liquid, it’s more like a powder… but there’s greases and oils on a shoe-shiner’s toolbox as well.

changed the format a bit too, to center focus on the kid


#2

Hi:

I’m gonna post a sketch soon, but meanwhile here’s the ideas… at first i wanted to explore my dear Nietzsche’s master and servant morals concepts, but always ended up on kinda political statements that i don’t really want to bring here.

I’m now considering two ideas:

About the master and servant relationship between Daedalus and king Minos, representing the gift of art put to serve others by force, or, in other words, the aberration of art. This story goes beyond the elusive figure of the muse who comes whenever she feels like, and flees when the artist seeks her consciously; Daedalus story is the Requiem for a Dream of an artist, everything decays inevitablely, and in his encounter with Minos he’s put in such position that he must use his gift to the will of those in power. Finally, he’s trapped on the greatest of these works: the labyrinth to contain the Minotaur (born thanks to another of his works on command: a cow suit for Mino’s naughty wife, jejeje). The rest of the story, and another alternative, is about freedom from this prision, for wich he builds wings with feathers and wax to fly away with his only son Icarus. In this case they’re both binded (and put as servants? I’m not sure yet) to their skill: if you go too far up, you’ll fall because the sun will melt your wings… is the creative drive subdued to the limits of going too far up or too low, and yet commited to keep going, as a servant is commited to his master?

A much simpler idea came as an instant “snap!” in my head, while i was reading legal definitions of the master/servant condition in work laws… suddenly started to see the ritualistic (is that a word?) value of those roles, as in a play. Well, maybe that doesn’t have much to do, but the next image was a typical urban scene of my country: office men go to nearby squares or walks to polish their shoes; they stablish a distinctive master-servant relationship with the “shoe-shiner” (again, does that term even exists), determined by the postures of the participants: the client sits on a -very funny- little throne, while the person doing the job gets down on his knees to perform. The client meanwhile reads the paper conspicuously, but the shoe-shiner is absort on his real master: the shoe. This job has honor that goes on from father to son, beyond and besides the urges to get money to eat. I’m eager to portray these characters, the little bourgeois on his condescendant stand in that pathetic throne, and the keen expression of the shoe-shiner, be it an old man with a skin made of sun and wine, smoking the filter of a cigarrette, or be it a child, spitting on the shoe to get that extra-quality shine no other product gives.

Well, hope to make up my mind soon.

Good night

Sir Patroclo


#3

This is the initial sketch for the second idea.


#4

hey man thats a very cool original idea, i really like it. good luck:scream:


#5

hi Melkao, thanks for the encouragement, good look to you too, amigo colombiano!

On a second look I’m seeing various mistakes on the sketch, specially the client’s legs and feet, i’ll correct them tomorrow.

Cheers!

Sir Patroclo


#6

hey Sir Patroclo! Good luck!


#7

Hi Bobert! I really like your subway sketches and the way they tell micro-stories of each person, seems like we both are interested on every-day people. Thanks for the greeting.

Sir Patroclo


#8

The Sir entered! Yey

Nice idea I’m looking forward to see your process! Good luck on the challenge!


#9

Welcome to the challenge, Sir P! Before you get too involved with the shoeshine idea, I thought you should take a look at this other thread: http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=225673 .

BTW, I never knew the back story of Daedalus, only that he made wings for himself and his son Icarus so that they could escape prison. I remember your Romulus and Remus sketch from the Daily Sketch – you’re really up on your mythology, aren’t you? Anyway, want to wish you much luck. I’m sure you can find a unique angle for the shoe shiner if your heart’s set on that concept.


#10

Nice! Leavig a mark to get update :thumbsup:


#11

Ilikesoup: DAMN! grrr, this was a shock. But thanks for pointing that other thread out, i’ll pm the other contestant to see if he’s ok with my sketch. I don’t think he will have a problem, though the subject is the same, the approach is different (except for that particular action of the shoe-shiner, that i can replace)… buu, I was getting excited over this.

Yes, i like mythology very much, i’ve read such stories since i was little. I’m really fond of the clever metaphors for life and human behaviour. And the master and servant theme is all over it: from king Sisifus and his endless task, to Edipus and his horrible fate, going through Pegasus and Belerofonte, Hercules and king Euristeus, and this tale about Daedalus. Daedalus was a genius (in a daVinci kind of way), but his apprentice was even more skilled and he got jealous and murdered him. To avoid punishment, he fled to Crete island and was welcomed by king Minos, but implicitly made him his slave, yadda yadda yadda Icarus fell to the sea and died.

Well, thank you very much for the good wishes, good luck to you too buddy! I’ll drop by later.

Victim: Hi, thanks, do come back!

Goro. yes, well, but, where’s the worm?

Cheers

Sir Patroclo


#12

hello, and welcome. Go go go!


#13

Changed the character and position to differentiate it from the other shoe-shiner scene… i’ll try to start blocking colors.

C&C welcomed, about the composition and hierarchy specially.

Greetings
Sir Patroclo


#14

hey mr vlieg! good luck with yours (i’m heading there now)


#15

hi, i like the way u change the guy to the little character, it remind me of fall out.
i didn’t spent time read through ur concept, but my only suggestion in term of visual is that may be the suit they wear are too similar, maybe u can change the little guy suit to something else to make it more variety, more interesting to look at. hope this help.

Good luck and have fun. :thumbsup:


#16

exagerated the situation a bit. the black paste shouldn’t be so liquid, it’s more like a powder… but there’s greases and oils on a shoe-shiner’s toolbox as well.

changed the format a bit too, to center focus on the kid


#17

Hi XinYu: thanks for your words. It’s the same outfit because is kinda a uniform shoeshiners wear here, consisting on a blue coat, and an orange cloth scrap hanging from a pocket.


#18

Te pasaste, me encantó!!!.. mucha suerte!! :thumbsup:
wow, I like very much. Good Luck (esto por si se enojan, viva el google translate) :thumbsup:


#19

is this thread still alive ?? :rolleyes: are you there Patroclo ?


#20

jajajaja…yeah i’m agree man…this seems to be dead:scream: