Hmm… yeah… If you could actually stop improving it I would be very grateful…
…I mean… I’m intimidated enough without you around, producing some of your best work yet…
…honestly… so selfish!..
Master and Servant 2D Entry: Linda Bergkvist
KashGarinn
#662
It’s a strange piece… master & servant… really?
the feet very blurry… too blurry for my taste don’t know…
2 women, one with a forest-like birdmask, flowers in her hair… golden dress (sorry if I remark the colours wrong, I’m a bit colourblind) and what appears to be snakes coming from her hair and down her back… 4 birds waft around her and a butterfly is almost perching on her left shoulder… The other woman in a white dress, and feet not really under her, with a slight smile on her face and a strange glow…
I didn’t get the wound until someone pointed it out, or the fly on the other girls dress… Why is the wound so blurry? of course the whole leg is blurry, so if you’d make the wound clearer, the whole leg would have to be clearer, and that’d mean all the legs would have to come more into focus…
I’m pretty sure that either the ‘winter’ woman weighs nothing or is somekind of a fairy, as she is letting the nymph hold her completely, and the nymph barely has one arm half-way around her… she isn’t even holding her like she was holding her up, more like she is only holding her to her.
that’s what’s bugging me the most about the picture, the way the nymph holds the white woman… it just isn’t believable for me… Also, compared to how the white woman glows, aren’t the shadows on the birds to the left a bit too strong? they feel glued onto the picture, and not a part of it.
maybe the white woman is a ghost, and the masked woman is death… that’d work, instead of autumn-winter-spring-summer theme… If she is a ghost, why does death have a wound…
The lesbianism hinted at wouldn’t have been so glaringly obvious if the theme wouldn’t have been master-slave
It’s a silly picture… but a nice silly picture.
K.
kaleith
#664
Pretty strong comments,especially from a colorblind … Can we see your suggestion also? Just to get the feeling of an unsilly picture…
4.Critiques and responses to images are to be [i]constructive and related to improving the quality of the artwork[/i].
Sorry to break the rule…I just couldnt stop myself…
Tris3d
#665
To answer the blurry question… I’m pretty sure Linda hasn’t got round to detailing that bit yet!
KashGarinn
#666
I guess I’ll have to defend my comments and give them some validity?
Orion77: oh my yes! How rude not to add another “0//\G, U R T3h R0xx0rz 1|| M1 80xx0rz!11oneone”. I think that you’ve all convinced her with 45 pages of commentary that her skills in the field of drawing/colouring is quite up to par if she didn’t have an inkling already, thus I felt that I did not need to comment on her skills as a painter.
Kaleith: I didn’t critique the colours of her painting for that exact reason (although they are a bit bland in places, but I can’t really be a judge in that department), I commented on posture of the models, and things I found a bit weird.
And it’s silly because after the first few seconds of looking at it, you go “Ooh, lesbians/women about to kiss nudgenudge* oi and their breasts as touching, cor blimey! And it’s under the master-slave theme if-you-get-my-drift-me-young-lad” if I may be so vulgar. It’s also silly because it’s just two pretty women in pretty dresses, this could have been done with a camera and a bit of photoshop just as much as painted… She paints very well, would have loved to see something more than two women almost having a snog.
It’s a very nice painting, very well painted, especially around the face and bosom area, but for me, I’d have liked to get an impact of what these 2 beings were supposed to symbolise before seeing two women almost kissing.
K.
cDlm
#667
KashGarinn: well at least you could have read Linda’s comments during her progression before posting your first comment… you would have learnt what the characters represent, and that the painting looks unfinished in places because (surprise) it is actually unfinished.
IMHO there is valid critiques in what you wrote, but the this-WIP-looks-unfinished-thus-it-sucks parts and global rude tone are completely trollish.
cha0t1c1
#668
Kash: Can u really critique, if you haven’t read what the contest is about nor known who the artist is or what is his/her style…If you critique without that knowledge I think you should apologize…I’m completely serious about the apology…The artist in concern isquite respected, talented and humble…
Squibbit
#669
how about you think a little of what makes your brain think they’re almost kissing, KashGarinn?
Yea the painting could make it more clear who was what in the picture, it ain’t
a must though. Some artists let it up to the viewers to decide the story behind
the picture. If it seems a cool fantasy pic to most of the others and two silly
lesbians to you well that’s what it is then
I think what’s cool about Linda’s paintings is the way she brings forth from the
easy, blurry background strokes the details she wants to focus on.
I’m always amazed at how cool it looks with them blurry and sharp, detailed
parts forming together an amazing picture without neither seeming out of place.
peace
Maipiu
#670
Hello Linda,
i must say you that i like and love your work really so much,and this Picture is really inspiring for me…you have an really Fairy stile,and you Paint your Draws with so much love,i can see this in all your Paintings.
I can`t wait to see the final
I love it,keep it up
Sandro Falcone FASA
ArtisticVisions
#671
No, I think all of Linda’s work leading up to this piece has convinced us that she is “up to par” in digital painting :rolleyes: . (hell, I’d go so far to say she’s a God at it 
)
Uh… what makes you think that you know why we like this work?
You comments show a lack of maturity on your part, as well as a lack of respect and curtesy to both Linda and the other individuals here at CGTalk.
artman50
#672
hi. i love your artwork. this is fantastic you do in 2d what i wish i can do in 3d is realy good. good luck
curannon
#673
Hi all!
First I would like to say to Linda, maybe abit unnescessary since there are ,as kash said, 45 pages of it, but anyway 
U are a truly amazing painter with marvelous skills concering light, color and form. I just love the quality in your paintings.
That said I do think that the story behind your painting could be better conveyed. As it is now
I think it is just to subtle. The birds that are dying and falling apart behind the humans back are kinda lost in the background. I think that the “two faced” part of the human needs to come out stronger. I like the idea that the beautiful, and at sight so innocent, girl harms nature at touch. But even though it should go unnoticed to the nature spirit (the master) I think the viewer should see it quite clearly. Maybe work with color or contrast at the left part of the images. to convey that the human is bringing decay with her. I don’t know something anyway.
Apart from that ,even though I think kash could have had nicer tone in his critique, I do agree with him somewhat. The most unsettling to me is how some of you are apalled with someone saying something negative about Lindas work. U are treating her either as if she was a fragile china doll or as if her work was absolutly flawless beyond improvement. both of which is just as ignorant and rude to me
Linda is a brilliant artist and she deserves to be treated as one which includes giving both negative and positive critism so that she can improve her work even more.
Enayla
#674
Oh my.
Well, first of all - I do appreciate all the crits and all the comments - and compliments (as I’ve mentioned a lot of times). I’ve not been up to continuing on the painting lately, but I’ll get back to it, or to the other concept, when I feel up to par.
Secondly - anyone who sees a couple of lesbians rubbing hooters is interpreting the image solely on his (or her) own grounds. I like to leave paintings open to interpretation, but I find it rather shallow for someone to want to see only that. It really says more about you than about me, heh. I don’t mind lesbians - I know a few, really, they’re as splendid people as anyone else, but I’m not painting them in this case. It’s not a cheap trick of mine - it’d be a cheap trick of your brain.
Thirdly… the picture isn’t done. It’s blurry, that’s how I work - narrowing down the details. The pose isn’t changing since I know for a fact that it works. I had a couple of friends try it out, just like it shows on this picture, just to know for sure if it’s workable or not. It’ll work only for a moment before you tip over, but it works - main weight on the point where the hips meet. The blurriness will go, though, even if the background will likely remain out of focus to put more focus on the characters instead.
And yes, it’s master and servant :] I like to think you don’t have to be obvious about the theme, and I’m sorry if some people don’t get it. That’s a risk I’ll just have to take.
Again, I’m grateful for replies - thank you everyone for the thought and for taking the time to write. In that one case, it might have been a bit unnecessary to be quite so rude about it, but each to his or her own, I guess - I’ve had much worse. If you’d taken a look around, I am getting plenty of wonderful crits from plenty of lovely people - I’m much more likely to take it to heart when someone’s being civil about it.
Things I’ll be changing when I get back to the picture – definitely the falling of the birds, I didn’t realise they were lining up like that but now it’s all I can see, really. Adding more birds, working on the grass, sharpening legs, hands, and adding broken butterfly wings to the grass once it’s done.
Thanks everyone, tons and tons of love - I might be posting the second concept tomorrow. Might.
Mythmaker
#675
The more complex and intricate the story you are trying to convey in a painting, the more difficult it becomes to actually paint it.
I’m having difficulty myself - Because my story is complex, I’m having to really think about the characters and elements. I don’t want a confused mess, but I want my picture to speak for itself - for the viewer to understand what’s going on without having to read the text.
That is not an easy task, but I think Linda is doing a good job - It may not be completely obvious, but there is only so much you can say with a single static image.
What this picture has (so far) is an immediate beauty with a developing deeper layer for the viewer to think about.
grafik
#679
eh eh!!! i’m a fan of your work! what can i say? Amazing!!! good luck!
my MASTER & SLAVE:
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?p=2138465
StealthPharaoh
#680
i don’t think i want the concept to be abvious…i only read a bit about the concept to get the main idea and that for me is enough…it’s better to have a not abvious concept that makes u think more about the painting. And the concept itself is very mature…about nature and humans, so i’m really gald to see something different and unusual which i like most about linda’s work
it’s going to be hard to make people understand the concept withought reading…i def. wouldn’t think of something like that withought reading…so the problem i think it would be to give more hints…probably the name of the picture should have some explanation…
i usually don’t critique your work because when i see your finished painting, i don’t see something worth mentioning besides nitpicking…but in this wip there’s something stands out to me a bit…the woman with snakes in her head…her right foot is too big i think and looks little manly…if u campare it to the other woman feet u’ll see what i mean
and amazing colors of course…i think de vinci would admire your coloring skills too…sounds like a too much of a compliment but really your coloring is flawless