Master and Servant 2D Entry: Edite Kirse

#5

thnx for visiting my thread… ur strting out good, keep it up!

#6

hey looking good ,interesting ideas!

#7

Nice clean sketch and I like both the poses. You may want to look again at the hands; her hands are a little small, even for a girly-type girl, and his hand is somewhat crooked; the fingers need to be bolder, more definition. I know I’m not the one to advise on hands as it takes me around 30 attempts for every hand I draw, but still. And talking of small things, if the heart is meant to be human it should be around twice that size. Nice job, keep it up :slight_smile:

#8

Thanks for comment and advice Baron :smiley: Well I will be working on those hands a lot lot more… the sketch is done with a felt pen, so it is kinda hard to make any repairs. Now that I have my wacom, it will be much easier.

Thanks for the heart advice - I will make it bigger :smiley:

#9

Hello Edite! The lighting in this could look lovely. Is it going to be oranges and reds at sunset? I guess the light from the heart will be similar colours…? Or not… :slight_smile:

#10

Hey there Posh :smiley: Yeah I am going to go for warm reds and oranges… I am planning to make the left side of the image darker (sort of night coming) and the right one the warm sunset. And yep the heart is going to be the linking place between the two corners of the image.

Thanks for the comment :smiley:

#11

I m trying to make the city look simple, nothing to extravagant, because the main thing is the characters. I hope perspective looks ok. At the moment I am trying to figure out how to place the bridge…

I repainted the characters a tiny bit. I made the heart a bit bigger and I have also worked on hands a tiny bit, they will still probably change a great deal.

Good luck to all, cheers :smiley:

P.S Crits and advice highly encouraged - thanks :smiley:

#12

Hi Edite!

I like the theme: about love! Beautiful but sometimes (in a master and servant situation) sad relationship. Nice going with the perspective, carry on, working and it’ll be a nice one!

cheers!

Adam

#13

Thanks Adamos for the kind words :smiley: those are always encouraging :smiley:

I still can’t figure out how to place the bridge though :P…

Have fun all!

#14

wait the next ! but what the story? the atmosphere :slight_smile:

What is this perspective? nice caracthers BTW :slight_smile:

#15

this gonna be very beautiful picture
waiting for your colours
good luck :thumbsup:

#16

Hi fooxoo,

nice sketch and storyline :thumbsup:. About the two characters, imho, they seems to be to far from the center of your picture. About the architecture, it’s quite anonymous by now. Maybe the whole background could reflect the feelings the girl and the boy have each other ?

Waiting to see some colour stuff too :thumbsup:

#17

Hi there :] I’m afraid I won’t be much help when it comes to the perspective, but I thought I’d comment on the picture anyway.

I really like what you have so far. The dynamic tension between the two characters is very appealing: I love the folds in her clothes and the way her dress looks. I think, however, that they should be interacting a little bit more, perhaps, and ignoring the viewer. Right now, they’re both staring straight at us. How would it look if his face was turned slightly down, as if he’s smelling her hair - his eyes angled towards her (or up at us, if you want him looking really cocky). And her face turned slightly to the right but not up towards him, and her eyes looking down. We’d get an inkling of their relationship, then, beyond what the body language is already telling us: eyes have such impact. It’s just a wee suggestion :]

It’s looking very lovely either way :smiley: hope to see an update soon!

#18

hi foxoo, lovely concept, the symbolism will undoubtedly touch any one who has ever been in a relationship. The background is a really nice idea, the bridge will act as a nice framing device too. The idea of having a sunset will have an interesting effect on how you read the relationship between the two characters. I’d agree with Linda’s suggestions regarding the male, perhaps having his head bowed over her shoulder more, and her looking more at him, so entrance she doesnt notice he’s taking her heart. Also maybe move the characters over just a bit, as they seem to be disappearing off the side of the image at the minute, especially with the perspective lines, which will lead the viewer’s eye away from them anyhow. Maybe you could add a decorative border to the image and have the two characters breaking out of it top and bottom? Just my own thoughts on the matter. It’s a very original take, at any rate, keep up the good work, can’t wait to see some colour!

#19

Neozoom - thanks for the comment :smiley: The story - well it is a love story, not a very happy one, but still love :smiley: the guy is stealing her heart, and although she knows he is not that good for her, she is so in love that she allows that to happen.

xric7 - thanks, glad you like it, I am working on colours, slowly, but there is some progress ;) 

spacesnail - thanks :D I dont know if I will be moving the characters, I might crop the whole image a bit differently, as to the architecture, I want to make it only as a BG, the characters all in focus, but the city as a hazy sort of fog like smth... although the idea is nice about the city portraying their feelings, but if I do that, I will never finish the image :P

Enayla aka Linda - thank you for your comment and advice :D:D:D I am planning to have only the guy looking at the viewer with this cool look, the girl will have her head bowed and eyes closed, as if she knows the 'bad' guy is stealing her heart, but the 'heart' is her master, she cant do anything but obey and let her heart be stolen... I AM TOTALY GLAD YOU LIKE IT :D

Zepyhri - thanks for the kind words and advice - the perspective lines wont be there :D I am still thinking about the position of the characters and the bridge. There is tons of work to do - I will try to add some colour soon 

Best wishes to all,
Edite

P.S. OMG I have put so many grins

#20

Hello Edite! Looks like this concept can turn into a beautiful image. The perspective looks good and i think that it doesn’t have to be 100% accurate in illustrations. i might be wrong but i’m quite sure i’ve read that somewhere in some artbook. the bridge you can always adjust as you paint. then you can just play with shapes. well at least that how i do. (maybe because i’m to lazy to sketch with pencils hehe) but if you color the water maybe it will be more clear where the bridge should be. and one more thing: i kind of liked your first composition more. i don’t know but i think it looked more interesting. maybe it was more dynamic.
anyway keep up the good work and good luck!!:wink:

#21

Ok, I am going to listen to some advice and leave the bridge as it is and do it while painting. So this is the final line art. Now - colours to come :smiley: Some things will definatelly change while messing with colours, but this is the base I will use.

Good luck all, and thanks for comments and advice :smiley:

#22

another thing that came to my mind was that you could make the scene at night and put the city lights on, as you already have a cityscape there. i did’n mention that bacause i noticed you wanted to make it at sunset which also creates a nice mood. but then again you can always try that as well with stars, moon and a ligh glow coming from the city. but it’s your choice and i don’t want to create any mess here in your process hehe. just a thought…

#23

first of all, as far as the concept is concerned, i really LOVE the couple who appear to be in love. of course without specifying who takes the role of master, or servant. because many times, the notion of master and servant has no straight line drawn between the two.

now to technical aspects of it, knowing the fact that its still in early stage, BG could use stronger illusion of depth. having vanishing point in the middle of the image do force strong sense of depth, but if you dont get all the technicalities right, those who view the image can point out flaws of the bg easily. I am not suggesting that you must be extremely technical with your art, (after all, its art, and you can express whatever you want) but if you intend to mimic the reality, following the stricked rule of perspective theories are very necessary.
most of the buildings are okay, but the bridge doesnt really blend well with the rest of the perspective settings.
http://www.messstudio.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=805
this link is little perspective theory i put together, and it might help you to go further than just using vanishing point and horizon line.

overall, i find this picture worth watching and see where you take it from here. love the concept, and i wish you very much luck on this challenge. and challenging yourself! ^^

#24

Marcheen - thanks for the idea, it is cool, I will think about it :smiley:

HOON - I am glad you like the concept :smiley: ( I like it myself too). Thanks for advice on perspective, browsing through your tut, thank you, I really appreciate it :smiley:

Good luck to all :slight_smile: