Master and Servant 2D Entry: Andy Strukowski

#1

Andy Strukowski has entered the Master and Servant 2D.

Challenge Page

Latest Update: Coloring WIP: I’ll Quit Tomorrow

another installment but still a lot of tweaking left to do.

#2

Theme…A chain smoking, alcoholic with angina. Cigarettes and booze are the master and the man is the slave.

#3

First of all, I see my concept sketch is posted twice…I have no idea how that happened.

Could somebody please explain to me how I would update my progress…for example…I have the concept sketch posted but now I want to add my line drawing…do I do it by just posting a reply to the thread or is there a certain protocol to follow?

When I posted the concept sketch, I had an upload screen and I could select the Milestone but how do I get back to the upload screen to add more?

Sorry for the newbie stupidity!

#4

you hit the link tht was e-mailed to you when you entered the contest. when you want to upload again i guess you have to hit the link again and not pressing “back” button.
and another thing i think that someone has a similar idea already with a guy sitting at the bar beaing eslaved by booze. you have to be careful bacause there is a lot of people participating in the contest and it’s easy to accidently duplicate the ideas.
anyways good luck to you!!

#5

The first line drawing.

So far, this all being done in Painter 9.

#6

Thanks for the info Marcheen. I forgot about the email. I looked to see if anybody else had this idea already but didn’t notice anything. I’ll look again. There’s always bound to be some slight similarity in concepts as I have already noticed in what is already posted. I don’t want to upset anyone or do anything that isn’t right. If someone has a complaint then I will stop posting this concept and see if I can come up with something else.

#7

first shading

#8

still coloring…but I thought I would post before finishing this segment.

#9

2nd installment…Coloring WIP

#10

Nice take on the theme. A bit Edward Hopper. Have you thought of putting more props in it? Looks a bit bare.

#11

Interesting idea.

A few things though - firstly, the bar/table/whatchacallit doesn’t work too well compositionally. It just throws the eye right out of the picture, and the edge of the floor in the upper right is helping it. (I think it’s the edge of the floor, at least.) Also it raises a few perspective questions, as I’m sure that the horizon for the guy is much lower than for the environment. I’d suggest to redraw the construction lines for the guy and see where they indicate the horizon being. I’m guessing it’s around his shoulder height, but don’t take my word for it, check.

What else, try finding a reference for the hand grasping the bottle. There’s something wonky going on with the thumb, and I believe we shoud be seeing it a bit more from above.

Also, check perspective on the cigarette package and whatever is below it. It’s kinda off.

Hmm either the oxygen baloon is really tall, or it’s lit a bit more than it should be - to me it reads like it should be a bit below the bar/table level and getting a bit less light, but could, of course, be mightily off there. And also check the perspective on it, draw a few elipses here and there.

Well that’s about all I can think of. I hope you’ll be bringing much more color in his skin, but at this stage it’s not really something I can actually crit on without knowing where you’ll take the coloring.

Good luck! :slight_smile:

#12

I agree with liiga. There is something a bit dodgy about the perspective.

My Challenge Response

#13

Thanks for your critiques Jack and Liiga. I really appreiciate it. Some things I agreed with, some things were done on purpose.

I will definately be adding more props as was my intention anyway because it did look bare to me too. That should also take care of the eye being thrown out of the picture because of the bar and baseboard on the back wall. I agree that the perspective on the wall was way off and fixed that. Added shadow from the bar on the oxygen bottle which it needed. Fixed the thumb on the right hand but details on that stuff aren’t finished yet. The perspective on the man was intentional as I wanted him to look like he was being crowded by the cigarettes and ash tray but was oblivious to it. It also adds a bit of motion. The skin color was also intentional, as I wanted him to have that sickly pale gray tone, but that isn’t finished yet and will have a little more variance color wise. The perspective on the cigarette package seems fine to me. I assume you mean the alignment, but not everything is always aligned perfectly to a perspective grid.

Thanks again for the crits!

#14

another installment but still a lot of tweaking left to do.

#15

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