Machineflesh Challenge Questions/Issues




Again, congratulation for everyone. I have a little question: is there a chance to know the result of the public voting? I mean, which entries were among in the top 50%? It could be great :slight_smile:


Yes. What about rating of other works?


Hallo, I am really supraised of the winners results of the machineflesh 2 D. It seems that you don´t promote the new, fresh vision of concept design. Main works you´ve chosen are secondary, and do not discover or show anything new. There were another works which contained much more of visionary and fresh ideas. Also more fantasy in the way of painting. Everything, what I realised, you´ve chosen works, where the main theme was just violence, blood, uglyiness. I have nothing against a bit of cruelty in concept, but those kind of esthetical visions are too literal. In my opinion evil can have more subtile dimension, can it not? It is worth when one’s sometimes use a metaphory to express themselves. To sum up, I have’nt seen anything more than I`ve seen before in comics for example. The more it is astonishing, that there were entered people like Richard Dumont, David Freeman, Panu Uomala, Andrey Lazarev… They introduce some fresh quality into the contest.It would be better if the contests like this would promote the creativity and developement instead of tendency.

Anyway congratulations to the winners


me 2
but the vote is done.finit.ended…done with.
make ya wonder sumtimes donit.


When is the next contesting going to start??? hopefully next month…


Yes bring on the next one.I hope to enter.My bet is just after Olympics,first day or so around September 1? Are you moderaters deciding on the next one now,getting sponsers etc,etc.?Alright thanks for any clue.:thumbsup:


new contest pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
I’m anxious for the next one…I’m ready for the battle…My tablet is dieing
are you there yet?..???..
:cry: :cry: :cry:



Well after reviewing the winners I agree with you. 1st off congratulations to the winners. BUT…when reading the rules under the Machine/Flesh challenge I distinctly remember the idea of original concepts…not some gun carrying human-like machine-like thing. I read the word “Original”…but my definition of original must be different. A lot of the winners and runners up seem to have themes I’ve seen expressed a thousand times. But maybe the weight of their ability to render the art overrode any original concept that had been brought to finish. As far as I’m concerned the more original the concept the more weight it should carry. As for me…if I were judging or buying art I wouldn’t choose a re-hash of a them done over and over…I’d look for originality in concept. But then again maybe i’m just a sore loser. I wanted to send out a couple of congrats to squibbit…I found his idea more original than most…and the person that did the stick walking people in the pond…very nice…there were many others but I cannot think of them off the top of my head. Ok I’m outta here…I look forward to the next CG Challenge in which I’ll try to stay in the mainstream of thinking…maybe I’ll have a chance…


I am obviously too late for this challenge but want to participates in the challenges. is this the only one going on right now? When I pick the challenges section it just shows me archives and this is the only active one. Whats up?


we are waiting for the next contest from a while…the main problem was to see the winners from the last one…so…if the waiting is a quality of yours…here is the place…just jokeing…no contest is available right now…just hopeing another one to start…



thanks ioio and snotblow , I know how you feel , both your
works were on the original side too , and I much appreciate
seeing your entries develop.
No matter the results of the voting ( which also didn’t happen according
to the original rules I think. I remember reading the public vote would
drop half of all the entries and from the remaining 50 percent the
judges would choose the best. Now public votes counted 50 percent
in the final judging as i remember being said here. I might be wrong, sorry)
it was great to see many different ideas and pictures ,
stuff that feed the imagination and give birth to yet
even more bizarre and wondrous thoughts and creations.

I ain’t gonna jump in the mainstream in the next contest , I’m
just gonna try to make a better image :slight_smile:


good thinking…the final image is what is counting…is gettin’ to the personal portofolio first as all

approved :thumbsup:


Cong. to winners but I’ll never enter another CGnetwork challenge again. Cause I beileve that voting system is not good enough…it’s not fairly…


arman: How so?

We’ve tried to make it as fair as possible, and I’d like to think we did pretty well. If you can think of a way we can make it better, we’ll take it under consideration for the next challenge :slight_smile:


I don’t know if this would work, but how about letting those entered in the contest have there own specific top 10 run down to determine a percentage of the final tally (like the 50% public you did with machine flesh) the only catch being that you are could not vote on your own image, right ??? Then send it off to the judges. ??? Probably an idea that coulden’t be realized, but the only reason I bring it up as is that we all follow the creation of these images from the other artists. Where as a “public” vote would be less likly to look into the full process of the creation. Am I wrong in thinking that these were WIP contests,or was it purely judged on the final image,

Just one cgtalk users input…no direspect intended,… and thank you for continuing to put up these challenges.

Peace guys, I’m not trying to step on any toes with this post,I love this community!!!


Pretty good idea Essencedesign.:thumbsup:

   How about this: On the voting process:

I was thinking that a process alot like they did over at 3Dtotal for contests would work well.
I think that all the entrants could vote,plus CGtalk members with at least 50 posts as well.I think it’s a must to have the community,the true blue contributers be allowed a voice.
All interested in voting could choose there top 15 let’s say.The top pick recieves 15 points,then second gets 14 points,and so on and so forth to the 15th pick which gets 1 point.All voters will post these results in a vote thread,viewable to all.
Then the people with the top 30 overall point totals of the peoples vote can be given to the private jury for the official vote.So you get two votes,a “peoples choice” and a “CGtalk official vote”!!!
Oh and how about besides the final shot only,the contestants could also show “10” more detailed shots or extra money shots to go along with the final shot?
So how does this sound? Cool,or off?:slight_smile:


Kylebrn: We thought about doing it that way, but sorting through 100+ images, choosing 15, then ordering them, would be such an ordeal… not to mention it would be quite a bit more technically complex for us to maintain :slight_smile:

essencedesign: There’s nothing stopping artists from voting on their image… but no, we haven’t weighted it any more than the non-artists. We’ll think about it :slight_smile:

FWIW the final “official” scores usually turn up being extremely similar to the public voting scores…

Thanks for the feedback guys! :slight_smile:


I think we deserve this attention.:rolleyes: Members who have under 50 posts in this forum shouldn’t vote. Or we have a big trouble in voting like pumping votes by new members who just registered to vote his friends works…:sad:


Hi Mibus. I could count up the votes/points for you when the time came.:slight_smile:

Basically I would write/type down all the artists names.Then go through the Public vote thread and one by one count out the numbers.
For example: I would look at the first voters order,give 15 points for the first voters top pick,then on to the second pick of the voters list,give this artist 14 points,and so on all the way to the voters 15th pick which would recieve 1 point.

Then on to the second voter.Eventually with all voters picks in I would tabulate/add the scores.Then the top 15 artists with the highest point totals could go to the jury,and they can then add there 50% take on the entire thing.Still giving the jury members a very large say in the process,but still giving the people/community a great say.
I could go through each voters selections in about 1 minute,using a cross index solution.I figure even with 600 voters just to throw out a number,I could get this done in 10 hours,give me three days and the thing would be ready to hand over to the jury for there 50% say.
Either way you guys are doing a great job,I just want to see if we can do something even better.Just the some thoughts,don’t mean to step on any toes.
Ok, :thumbsup: or no :rolleyes: .