HMC #20 - Expressions - Madonna

#46

@ Fabio Doná Thanks a lot for the reference.
Yes just the outer 2 eyes as you can see are always less than the others lol
To me they don’t count as “eyes” maybe smaller eyes?

Hoping she’s not too far out, really can’t spend a lot longer on modeling.
And she doesn’t have a throat yet AND I’m off tomorrow.
Ok I’ll have the panic attack later tonight.

UPDATE Maybe she needs a bit more cheeks?
Please notice I’m simplifying her eyes for a clean “cartoony” look.

UPDATE UPDATE Yes just a little more volume on the side of the head perhaps.

#47

Haha don’t sweat it too much, we’re all in the same boat :slight_smile: Having said that, I had my panic attack earlier, on the weekend. “Hardcore” is the word…

#48

That’s because it’s only really 5 eyes without any perspective, so in orthographic view it would be at least 5. in perspective it always seems a little narrower. That’s why I tried with another photo, with a little less distortion, also note that the head in that picture is slightly rotated. Anyway, I hope that helps.

#49

@ Fabio Doná Yes I checked again and changed things a little.
It doesn’t seem to be a bad match? Yes I stylised her chin and eyes.
The idea was to beautify a little. Hope it’s not too bad.

Maybe you can see it better on next update :slight_smile:

@ Intervain Looked at the back of her head and it’s so true I always forget
how long most people’s heads are at the back. Maybe it’s a genetic problem.
Any case a bit of skull loving later hopefully better now…

#50

I think her jaw is too wide, you have to make the head an oval shape in the front view, the widest point being a little above the eyes, and the jaw line will be the narrower part of this oval outline.

You can push the ear and the neck further back

#51

I think the shape of the head is a bit better now. I’ve been concentrating on the features a lot without a side view of the skull and that’s what happened.

I like to think the wide jaw goes with the simplified eyes but maybe you don’t like it?
The rest I’ll comment a bit later have to be off today.

Thanks for the very clear insightful comment. It’s helping :wink:

#52

Wow, this is realy great. I got no crits cept, shes got one of those heads that is so odd, that its easy to mistake the work for caricature. I think your model is almost spot on.

#53

looks pretty nice now, :slight_smile:

#54

@ Airflow Thank you Airflow! Very nice to hear.

@ stridiggio Thanks stridiggio yours has been looking like it needs a bit of work.
I think you need to look more at the volumes of the face,
also remember that teeth always come together in an arch, like a horseshoe.

And she’ll get just a little more work still.
I think I’m not getting a weekend.
Want to at least have something to rig next week.

And I’ll be behind the deadline.

#55

Yes the head looks better now :thumbsup:

I must be honest though and tell you that I don’t really like the style/form of the features, especially the jaw and the cheeks. But this is just me. I want the comments to be helpful, so don’t worry about that.

#56

I want to look at the cheeks a bit more not sure if I’ll change the chin much.
As they say, you can’t please them all? Back to work soon :confused:

#57

And so she drops her jaw. Could it be singing?
Yes she doesn’t have a throat yet which may look a bit uncanny.
Any case moving along.

#58

Throat and tongue update.
Umm her bottom teeth are a little too spaced here lol.

#59

A human mouth. Simplified. Ughhh.

*** WARNING *** NORSEMAN THREAD. STOMACH PLEASE.

#60

Maybe she lost her likeness. Except for the gums maybe?
Dunno I’m going to try recover her.
I think I’m missing this deadline.

Madonna portrait coming up?

#61

Keep at it, its pretty good, just need to get the ears tweaked and the hair in place.

#62

well an expression can change a face quite a bit - I’d continue with those :slight_smile: you can always go back to the base later if you’re not satisfied :slight_smile: Keep at it, there’s still some time :thumbsup: though trying to get a perfect likeness is a good challenge in itself

#63

I think her likeness depends a little on the angle as well.
Eh trying to improve things a little.

@ Intervain Thanks Magdalena, I don’t know if I’ll be able to do a lot of expressions.
But I really want to get her ready for some experimenting :slight_smile:

@ Airflow Thanks for the encouragement. Your girl is beginning to look really nice.

#64

wow. Looking great man. I agree with mag. I can tell its madonna. Keep at it. Bang out some expressions and you can always go back to refine.

#65

Another little update.
Yeh I’m not sure I’ll have a lot of time to put into this.
So far have been going portrait and am happyish with results.

Want to go old hat on the approach to expressions with little brush work.
See what happens.

@ BrettSinclair Thanks Brett.