Help with buying new IPS monitor for Texturing work

#4

Dell P2414H would be a good choice or P2417H for a little less.

#5

Only 96% sRGB! Are you sure you can’t find something with at least 99%sRGB for the same price?

#6

I think with my budget i can only buy this one- Dell SE2416H. Specification here - https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/999c751
What percent is theRGB for this one, will this work for texturing.

#7

It’s out of my budget unfortunately :slight_smile: Should i wait and increase my budget or this Dell SE2416H - https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/999c751 will work?

#8

Sorry, cant help, theres very little info on the net about that model.

#9

Will check youtube later about that model.

#10

Bought Dell SE2416H, excellent budget monitor :slight_smile: Thank you guys for your inputs !! Bought for 150$ or 9500 Indian rupees.

#11

If you can find a used HP ZR30w, try to get that. I got one and its great. Retail price 5 years ago 1300 dollars, i got mine for 300 dollars which is close to your budget. It is 30 inches, 2560x1600 resolution, IPS, and a real 10 bit panel through displayport and a quadro or firepro, from GTX it is 8 bit. It is probably one of the best quality monitors if you can get it cheap. All new monitors at 300-800 dollars, are not as good of an image quality as this (in my view) and the new HP models that replace this are also over 1000 dollars a piece.

#12

Current GeForce cards support 10 and 12 bit output.

#13

Thank you, HP ZR30w is way out of my budget, next year i will buy better monitors when upgrading my PC. As of now i have Acer S231HL as secondary monitor and the new Dell SE2416H as primary.

#14

Where can i check in windows 10, current bit mode?

#15

Your monitor doesn’t support 10 or 12 bit :wink:

#16

Yes it’s 8 bit only(better than 6 bit panel :)), but only 149 USD(9499 Indian rupees) which fits my budget of only 155 USD. Good color reproduction, build quality and 3 years onsite warranty. Next year i will upgrade both monitors to 4k, when upgrading my whole setup.

#17

Only full-screen directX in computer games. Not OpenGL in Photoshop etc. For that you’ll need a Quadro.

#18

Any source for that? All my searching only mentioned directx is currently limited to 10-bit when fullscreen.

#19

Your wording is inaccurate. Geforce will do 10-bit, maybe more for computer games, ie full-screen directx but not for OpenGL applications. So not “Limited” in full-screen directx applications.
The source was on Nvidias website. Do I have a link? Of course not, the website changes often.
Mere logic would allow you to believe this to be correct. The more expensive card, for a smaller user-base that need 10+bit for photo-editing for print.
This debate is really irrelevant though because proper 10±bit monitors are really, really expensive. Dell sells some “10 bit monitors” but they are shite. They might do 100%SRGB, but they will fail in other areas as to make the 10-bit a waste of time. Most people really don’t need 10-bit anyway.

#20

To clarify, Dell don’t make anything, they source parts from other manufactures. The money isn’t in 16:10 desktop monitors, its in 16:9 TVs. So most manufactures don’t care about desktop monitors and thus Dell monitors are now merely TVs that are repackaged. Fine if you want a cheap display, but not ideally suited to the task.
Most of their “Professional” monitors don’t even do 100% sRGB! Not even STANDARD colour space! Let alone AdobeRGB.

Dell didn’t go down hill in quality, they jumped off a fucking cliff!

#21

Well colour me skeptical, but nvidias website has had misleading and grossly out of date information about their product range for quite a while; their “what advantages does the quadro have” pdf file is still hilariously outdated, virtually everything it mentions as quadro specific features can be done with a geforce:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/quadro_geforce.html

So, still happy to see literally any source on the entire internet which says a geforce cannot out put 10/12 bit to the standard desktop, and im not saying it can, I literally do not know.

Regarding Dell monitors, whats wrong with the UP3216Q ? 32 inch screen, 4k res, 60Hz, 10-bit, 99.5% AdobeRGB, IPS, 6ms. I’ve never seen one in person but it seems pretty good on paper. Or the U2313 for the same thing in a 24" size.

#22

I’m not going to spend my time trying to find something that might not exist for your benefit. It certainly was true and there hasn’t been any info to say it is no longer true. If you did your research, you’ll have found forums saying the same thing, that Quadros are needed for 10-bit colour in applications like photoshop, Premier, after effects etc. Try looking for Photoshop and 10-bit colour.
I haven’t read this link Photoshop 10 bit colour? it could either confirm or deny what I said, I don’t care.

With regard to dell monitors, like I said, they are repackaged TVs! The UP3216Q has an aspect ratio of 1.778 (16:9) and is 32"! That’s too big for a monitor! (IN THAT ASPECT RATIO!)

U2313? Do you mean U2413? I have a pair of U2413s, but they aren’t made anymore and they don’t have a successor. Also, the U2413 is bad for a professional-monitor because of cost cutting measures. Due to the cost cutting measures, all the sheets for the back-light are merely held in place by friction. There is a small dent to locate the back-light sheets, but they are often either assembled incorrectly, or shift in transit. The extreme back-light bleed in my case was correctable, but it meant taking the monitor to pieces and stacking the sheets so that they were perfectly in line and perfectly located. No doubt you will want a link “or it didn’t happen”: Back light bleed. I don’t have a quadro card, just a GTX1080, I don’t need 10-bit colour because I don’t print and I’m pretty sure that no 3d application supports 10-bit colour as of this post.

#23

I asked a question because I didn’t have an answer and was looking for one.

Regarding the screens, I don’t see there is anything inherently bad with reusing tv panels as screens so long as they meet the required spec. So long as they can handle display port, cut out the image processing lag and the panel itself is up to spec, there are plenty of tv-based panels out there that do a decent job. I don’t see why a 32" 4k screen at 16:9 suddenly becomes a problem.

A 16:9 32" screen has a width of 27.9"
A 16:10 30" screen has a width of 25.4"
Im not sure those extra 2.5 inches of width are going to render the panel unusable.

I’ve personally be playing with the idea of swapping out my 2 screens (24+30) for a single larger panel as they’re up for retirement anyway. I spent a couple of weeks with a single 55" 4k 4:4:4 IPS panel, essentially giving me the same visual width and pixel density as my existing screens with a single borderless panel. It worked ok and the image quality was just about acceptable, but the height proved to be an issue with regards to various windows and UI elements popping up above my general eye line. The current range of 43" panels looked tempting but they all seem to be the same source of screen which has poor refresh rates and temporary burn in issues. That, plus window’s dpi scaling is still substandard when compared to what osx has been able to do for quite a while now.