HARDCORE MODELING!: VitruvianMan: Full Body & Shading

#1

I’ve already chickened out of doing this entirely within ZBrush, so I’ll fall back to using it for detailing.
It’s been 2 years since I did any character modelling, so this might be painful to watch. :sad:

I plan on doing some compositing trickery to achieve the effect of the 2 figures occupying the same space.

First things first, research. I have access to the big fat Taschen book by Zollner and I’ve taken a few snaps of other studies in proportion he was doing at the time he drew his version of the Vitruvian man. There are only a few images of the proportions of the head and face, two of which appear to be profiles of the same model for his Vitruvian man - or at least a pretty good likeness.
There is little in the way of fullbody drawings of any great detail that would be useful to this subject. I’ll have to draw upon other sources for that.

#2

Just wanted to tell you that you are in good company with this challenge!

HARDCORE MODELING: VitruvianMan: Full Body & Shading - Stahlberg

-R

#3

Up against a living legend eh? He’s got Mudbox too! Bit unfair init? :smiley:

Here’s my first wip. Already finished the blocking in, started on some rough detail with the hands. Feet and head next.

#4

Nice start, modo I presume? I gotta try that software again, I wonder if the tools are faster than XSI’s. Yup you definately have some competition.

#5

Cheers, and yep, it’s Modo. Can’t say it’s any faster than XSI, although I can say it has a tactile sensibility in the same way old Softimage3D used to have.

#6

Nothing special here, first pass on some characterless body parts.

The second attachment is a quick comparison pic I threw together of what appears to be the same man. All these drawings were made during the same period he did The Vitruvian man, you can clearly see he was studying proportion. Interestingly the faces are amazingly similar when overlayed but the overall head sizes differ slightly.
I can’t be sure this fella was his model for The Vitruvian, there’s a few differences, he also looks a little too old. But there’s enough similarities for me to work with.

#7

Some detailing on the head. Trying not to go too nuts, just enough so that I’m happy with the proportions before I take it into ZBrush.

#8

great modeling so far:thumbsup:

looking forward to more updates.

#9

Ya, i’m liking the face. Keep it up.

Btw… Did you make your avatar? If so, its awesome.

#10

Thanks guys. Very slow progress so far - I’ve got the ear to do next. I’ve only ever made one ear before and I’ve just re-used that ever since… should be interesting (read: time consuming) :sad:

Yeah, I made the avatar, and thanks. :slight_smile:

#11

Another day another update. Finished first pass on the head. Worked a little bit on the likeness, will try and nail that before I go into ZBrush.
I think it’s showing too much whites of the eyes at the moment. But I’ll fix that on my second pass.
As I suspected, there’s too much face and not enough head in his drawing - makes my fella look a little squify. His profile proportions look correct to my eye, but The Vitruvian man himself is very flat headed.

#12

nice modeling again, i like it.

few crits, the chin looks odd, you may try pushing it a little back. the nostrils or the base of the nose could be little wider too. the jaw and the chick bone can be more defined and little wider also. more definition between eyebrows and forehead. the lips could be slightly frowning and of course he needs a pronounced double chin.

#13

Thanks for the crits. I’ll take a look a the width of the nostrils and odd chin. Good point about the frowning lips - I think it’s that I haven’t pushed out the area above the corners of the mouth to get that effect.
Some of the stuff you’re talking about there I’m leaving to ZBrush. Most of the fleshy detail here is just for landmarking, so they’re fairly ill-defined.

thanks again.

#14

Just a heads up!

HRC #3: Vitruvian Man TWO WEEKS TO GO!

-R

#15

It’s good modeling, but he looks about 60. The guy in the dewing is no more than 40.

#16

Indeed, my initial thoughts were that this this guy must be in his 40’s. However, on closer inspection I think he is older. Let me explain, I think we’re not used to seeing older people with hair like that. I did a quick experiment and painted out the hair on The Vitruvian man. He looks a lot older without hair.

However, I’m not convinced of that yet until I’ve got hair on him, I’ll make that call only then.

cheers.

#17

Just a heads up!

HRC #3: Vitruvian Man ONE WEEK TO GO! (Monday Night July 24th)

-R

#18

Spent a long time (too long) on the neck and shoulders. On to the torso and legs now. The plan is to be fairly detailed and accurate for the muscles that have to move for the alternate pose, so that I can reshape them in Modo and not have to worry about some ZBrush trickery. The back and shoulder blades might be a problem though.
The muscles that won’t move much from one pose to the next I’ll leave to ZBrush - such as the extremities and central torso.

#19

Your’s is the best so far, nice character work, not just generic man.

#20

[left]Great work Matt! I really like the progress you’ve made so far, looking forward seeing the final result! Good luck
-Iest
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