FXWars! Catapult! (Trebuchet) : Derby-Q Salano

#102

looks awsome but I think that the basic run you had earlier without the fancy stuff looked more impressive. Also the texturing on the castle after it “chips” looks bad.

But wow, the efford you put into this, that is the most impressive of all the submissions so far

One thing though, at 4 secs into the animation when its lifting the rock one of the objects on the trebuchet gets blurred or something for one frame. Well happens a few times, its the object holding the 4 ropes, starts to turn and goes into motion blur

#103

this is really awesome! very good job!

#104

Thanks all.

You are right, more damage would be better, but I ran out of time, now I don’t have any time to work on it, so I had to finish it by August 1st. That’s why the tower isn’t properly finished. Well that’s not the main thing of the challenge I feel, otherwise I’d have put more work in that instead of the treb.

Hexodam: I’m aware of the motion blur problems, the pulley is sometimes messed up, I know, very odd bug, was going to fix that too, but due to lack of time, that’ll probably stay there.

My website is online finally, if you would like to check it out, you can visit it at www.ronin3D.net

Thanks

#105

nice job on the trebuchet tutorial, I found the part about the Pully very interesting. - nice site design in general.
ciao !

#106

Awesome… all i can say.

I decided to do the dynamics part of the challenge after i saw yours. Too bad your tutorial wasn’t out til after i “finished”, as i went through, ahem, all of the problems you addressed on the first two pages and ended up doing it just the way you did… full-scale learning effect. :slight_smile:
Then again, reading your tut invalidates participation in the challenge… Bad for everyone who already read through the tutorial. :wink:

#107

Heh, well I wasn’t going to post the existence of this tutorial untill the challenge was over, but since it’s a rule to not imitate a tutorial, I should have written it a long time ago to keep the copycats at a distance :slight_smile:

#108

That was exellent! There should had been some poor victims manning the castle walls being knocked down though, but I’m really impressed by your speed! And Modeling. And detailing and… everything! =)

#109

This work is fantastic derby!! :applause:

I really like the look of it and the whole environment. Dynamics is some kind I’m really interested in, but unfortunately I haven’t got enough time to dive in :shrug:
So I’ve got a question for you, is it possible to get the early file (the one before or short after the rope demo) for learning?
If this will be possible (surely AFTER the contest, not now :slight_smile: ) that will be very very gentle. because for me it’s less timeconsuming trying to understand someone elses thought and how something is made, than following a tutorial :slight_smile:

anyway, keep this work up! it’s really great.

#110

:applause: WAW THIS WORKS RELY NICE!!!:buttrock:
NICE NICE JOB!!!

Suggestion:
Unfortunately I have no time to partecipate to this challange but I think that U kan add a very fine featuret to your catapult that will give to your model a longer fire range. tnx to the concept of radial velocity if U short the harm of your catapult during the lats 20degrees of rotation the rock will be much faster getting a lot more meccanic energy. Making this is quite easy using the reverse of the concept of harm extention and cuz isn’t in the rules that your wepon can’t be hitecknology you can easly apply the idea.
Efficency over the top;)

#111

Good suggestions, thanks for the replies, all.

Here’s my final submission.

Hope you like it.

   [[img]http://www.ronin3d.net/CGI_Files/Trebuchet/Treb_M.jpg[/img]](http://www.ronin3d.net/images/movies/Trebuchet.mov)
  
  [[img]http://www.ronin3d.net/CGI_Files/Trebuchet/Side_Thumb.jpg[/img]](http://www.ronin3d.net/images/movies/Trebuchet_Side.mov)
 
 [[img]http://www.ronin3d.net/CGI_Files/Trebuchet/Thumb_Wire.jpg[/img]](http://www.ronin3d.net/images/movies/Trebuchet_Wire.mov)
#112

ok, i dont dare to crit, cause i cant do 10% of what u have done. But, if you dont mind…
I think the top bomb or ball, whatever it is, that they are throwing, breaks the wall before it even touches the wall. I guess ur pivot for the force is in front… which makes it hit the wall before the ball actually hits it and thus break it.

Same goes for the second ball, the area it affects is a little “not practical”. I mean, its fine, but if u want to refine it, then… cause when it hits the wall, it first breaks the wall, then the wall seems to get back to itself, then falls apart… i mean, i know its supposed to happen like this, but just that the area seems a bit not right.

And, its just my personal thingy… i was expecting only one ball to hit, cause i saw one Trebuchet to shoot. But its fine… =p

in total, w/o any question u have raised the whole level of the competition. really nice. i had to go wow. :thumbsup:

I hope you dont mind my comments, and i hope i am wrong… cause its a really good work, and i dont want it to have flaws.

#113

I’ll teach you a thing about dynamics, the collision isn’t done by placing a force field on the projectile, it just gets bounced back if the projectile hits. So it can’t hit too soon, it just hits, that’s out of my hands. Maybe it’s because the rock doesnt fly through… well that rock has a mass of about 100 kg, the bricks in the wall each have a mass of about a 100kg and all of m are stuck together, plus, they are positioned in a round arc, which makes a tower like that basically invinsible. So if the ball would fly through, that’d be like a superball, cause there’s no way it could pass through.

Just ignore the fact that there’s multiple trebuchets there, the second ball was just to put in some more action.

I don’t really understand the remark, but I appreciate the help, I hope I will be able to put some more work into destruction in the next challenge :slight_smile:

The problem with the pulley is solved btw, download is updated

#114

I must agree about the sudden appearance of the second projectile. It’s rather strange since you don’t see a second launch, but it’s not impossible and certainly a good idea to add more damage.

This solution is also the only one I saw with realistic damage. As Derby-Q Salano says, the ‘fortress’ (it doesn’t have that name for nothing) is a rather firm building and won’t just collapse like the tower in, let’s just say, “grau’s” animation. Nor will the ball fly through without previous hits, at least, that’s what I THINK.

Sure, it all adds to that ‘WOW’ Hollywood-drama effect. But not everybody likes that :wink:

The scenery is absolutely stunning, the detail of the grass waving in the wind and the little stumble of the guy that releases the ball is overwhelming. I especially like the little dude on top of the rear trebuchet hammering away, I almost fell off my chair because so little people would notice that in a regular movie and still, this animation has it. And then there’s the glimpse of the knight overlooking the entire site. Absolutely wonderful stuff if you ask me.

#115

Thanks bro…

Acid, unfortunatelly I’m not gonna be able to give you any files, but you can check my website for a complete guide on the trebuchet, at www.ronin3D.net check tutorials

#116

Voting has started, check it here

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=162862

#117

Awesome work! Truly, a lot of time was spent on this dude.

One crit: The scene where the rocks hit the wall. There some pretty major shadow flicker happening. Maybe some camera shake would help sell it too. Im not so sure about the flaking off of the facade–one would think that a boulder moving that fast would do more damage…

Great job though. Very beautiful!

#118

Ah nuts I forgot the camera shake, well, I didn’t really like the tower, and more damage was needed to get more votes I presume, I wish I put more work into that, though I couldn’t continue working on it after the 1st of August. Anyway I’m super-happy with a tie with Cory, never won anything, so I’m glad.
The flickering is caused by the crappy particles. I didn’t want to spend too much time into that see…

Thanks for your reply.

#119

Been meaning to do this…

Winner!
-R

#120

Thanks Roberto, thanks a million.

#121

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